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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3780 on: June 23, 2017, 07:56:31 pm »

So now Trump's proposing a law that Clinton already signed into law 20 years ago:

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/trump-proposes-a-law-thats-existed-for-20-years/ar-BBD53OS?li=AAavLaF&ocid=ientp

Really, you can't make this stuff up!
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3781 on: June 23, 2017, 08:54:40 pm »

That's precisely what makes it the wealthiest ;)

Another reason is that many of the people in the wealthy states eat themselves to death.
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« Reply #3782 on: June 23, 2017, 10:58:41 pm »

Now the Sanders are breaking everyone's heart acting like Clinton and Trump. 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-and-jane-sanders-under-fbi-investigation-for-bank-fraud-hire-lawyers/

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3783 on: June 23, 2017, 11:02:03 pm »

More Trump "goodness"...

So, remember that Carrier plant Trump visited admist his self-congratulatory tour about saving American job?

Carrier workers facing layoffs feel betrayed by Trump



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INDIANAPOLIS -- A promise made before Christmas is fizzling before the Fourth of July.

In December, then-President-elect Trump told hundreds of workers at the Carrier manufacturing plant that he had worked out a deal to save their jobs. But it's not working out that way. A steady downpour today did little to wash away the fact that the jobs of 600 union employees are going south.

"They're going to Monterrey, Mexico," said Robert James, president of the local union.

Reynolds said he felt betrayed, since Mr. Trump told workers during his December visit to the plant that 1,100 jobs would be saved.

"And by the way, that number is going to go up very substantially as they expand this area, this plant," Mr. Trump said. "So the 1,100 is going to be a minimum number."

Blasting companies for moving American jobs abroad was a feature of the Trump campaign, and saving the Carrier jobs was touted as a sign of Mr. Trump's bargaining prowess.

"You're going to have a good Christmas," he said at the plant.

But the truth is that 400 of the 1,100 jobs Mr. Trump mentioned were white-collar positions that were never going away. Only 700 union jobs were saved. Six hundred others will be lost, and Carrier is not paying a price. The company actually received a $7 million incentive package from Indiana to keep the plant open with a reduced work force.

"That is what he said was not going to happen," James said. "That's what he told all of us."

"And a lot of these people voted for Mr. Trump" with the understanding that he would save their jobs, James added.

Duane Oreskovic voted for the president, and is among those losing their jobs.

"I liked this job. This was a job that I actually wanted to retire from," Oreskovic said. "It's not going to happen any more."

At the White House Friday, press secretary Sean Spicer said the job cuts here were long-planned and nothing new.

The first round of layoffs will take effect next month, and the second in December -- three days before Christmas.

So, about that #MAGA, not so much at Carrier...
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3784 on: June 23, 2017, 11:38:51 pm »

Trump golfing? Aides won't say, but video tells the tale

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Washington (CNN)If a president golfs in private -- and the White House refuses to comment -- did it ever really happen?

Apparently so.

President Donald Trump hit the links at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminsiter, New Jersey, over the June 10-11 weekend, according to a golfer who also played the course and took a video of the President.

That video is the only reason the public knows Trump was golfing because White House aides, seemingly to obscure whether the President, who was once critical about another president playing golf, declined to say.



The video, posted by Twitter user @MikeNFrank, also shows Trump breaking a cardinal rule of golf: Driving a cart on the green. (According to Golfweek, golfers should "Keep your cart ... about 30 feet away from the greens.")

"It's the only place you can drive on the green, your own golf course," a man is overheard saying on the video.

"Thanks, fellas," Trump said as he drove up, while the people behind the camera asked how Trump is doing.

"Everything good?" Trump asked before driving up and soliciting a fist bump from one of the men behind the camera.

"How are you hitting them?" a man asked.

"Good, until this hole," Trump says as the video cuts out.

The White House official traveling with the press in New Jersey that weekend refused to confirm whether Trump had been playing golf. This is par for the course for the Trump administration: White House aides regularly say Trump "may hit a few balls," but Trump is regularly seen playing by reporters or guests at his golf clubs.

Aides are sensitive to Trump's golf habit given how he regularly slammed former President Barack Obama for golfing during his presidency.

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Donald J. Trump  ✔@realDonaldTrump
President Obama has a major meeting on the N.Y.C. Ebola outbreak, with people flying in from all over the country, but decided to play golf!
10:54 PM - 23 Oct 2014

Donald J. Trump  ✔@realDonaldTrump
Can you believe that,with all of the problems and difficulties facing the U.S., President Obama spent the day playing golf.Worse than Carter
7:03 PM - 13 Oct 2014

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Trump's critiques of Obama now could be thrust onto him, though.
His golfing in New Jersey came on the weekend that three United States soldiers were killed and another wounded during a joint US-Afghan military operation in Afghanistan.

The shooter in the June 20 incident was an Afghan army commando, Nangarhar provincial spokesman Attaullah Khogyani said.
Trump's aides -- the same who would not confirm he was golfing -- told CNN that weekend that he was getting continuous updates about the incident.

I was gonna make a snarky comment but, in reality, there's no need.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3785 on: June 23, 2017, 11:48:01 pm »

And, about all those Trump lies...

T r u m p ’ s   L i e s

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Many Americans have become accustomed to President Trump’s lies. But as regular as they have become, the country should not allow itself to become numb to them. So we have catalogued nearly every outright lie he has told publicly since taking the oath of office.

I won't bore you with a listing of all of them, the list is really very long. But here's a tweet jpg that covers from Jan 21st-March 22nd.

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« Reply #3786 on: June 23, 2017, 11:51:22 pm »

So Obama did little to nothing to stop Russian intrusion into our election process.  So Democrats who are ticked off at Obama because he did nothing are still using that to say Trump won the election because of it and now he doesn't want to stop Russia from interfering in the future and they threw in that he's probably colluding with them for good measure.   Alice in Wonderland.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/339236-frustrated-dems-say-obama-botched-russia-response

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3787 on: June 23, 2017, 11:57:35 pm »

The things Trump says...

No Poor Need Apply: Four Reasons Why President Trump Is Wrong



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Wednesday, President Trump uttered the following now widely-publicized statement regarding the top economic positions in his administration:

“And I love all people, rich or poor, but in those particular positions, I just don’t want a poor person. Does that makes sense? Does that make sense?”

While this has provided wonderful material for critics and satirists, are they really being fair? On the surface of it, there’s a certain logic to his statement. Shouldn’t those who have been the most successful in the economy also be the ones to offer advice?

Unfortunately, no. Here are four reasons why putting rich folks in charge is in no way a guarantee of superior economic performance:

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1. Earning riches and developing economic policy draw on different skill sets

2. Capitalism is not about the rich, it’s about the poor and middle class

3. The rich are likely to view their problems as the problems

4. The government is not a business

Trump just doesn't get the concept of governing...likely he never will.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3788 on: June 24, 2017, 12:01:56 am »

More Trump "goodness"...

So, remember that Carrier plant Trump visited admist his self-congratulatory tour about saving American job?

Carrier workers facing layoffs feel betrayed by Trump



So, about that #MAGA, not so much at Carrier...
  The main issue was the plant production was not shut down and a majority of the jobs did stay.  It's not perfect.  He didn't save all the jobs. But better than what Hillary did for them.  Trump went to bat for them and helped a lot of the workers, not all, but a good percentage. 

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3789 on: June 24, 2017, 12:08:47 am »

The things Trump says...

No Poor Need Apply: Four Reasons Why President Trump Is Wrong

Trump just doesn't get the concept of governing...likely he never will.
So you say that poor people have better skill sets to help the economy?  Keep repeating things like that and Trump will get three terms. 

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3790 on: June 24, 2017, 12:11:03 am »

So Obama did little to nothing to stop Russian intrusion into our election process.

Well, it was a little more complicated than that. The day that the Joint Statement from the Department Of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security that the intelligence community warned about Russian meddling (Oct 7th) was also the day that the Donald Trump and Billy Bush recording came out and then an hour later Podesta's emails hit...so the Russian story scrolled off.

That and even after warning the Congressional Gang of Eight, Mitchell McConnel reportedly refused to believe the classified version of the briefing and claimed it was a partisan ploy.

Yes, Obama should have just pulled the trigger and gone on TV and accused Putin and Russia of meddling...but Trump was already claiming the election was "rigged" and if Obama had started blaming the Russians, what do you suppose Trump would have done.

And yes, Obama and the Democrats were working under the assumption that Clinton was supposed to win. Once the election occurred it was locking the barn after the horses got out.

So, wouldn't you think Trump might be worried that the Russians might come after him next?
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3791 on: June 24, 2017, 12:15:00 am »

So you say that poor people have better skill sets to help the economy?  Keep repeating things like that and Trump will get three terms.

No, Forbes said that being a billionaire does not amount to creds for being successful in government...did you bother to read what they said? Should I copy/paste the whole darn article?
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« Reply #3792 on: June 24, 2017, 12:15:44 am »

Well, it was a little more complicated than that. The day that the Joint Statement from the Department Of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security that the intelligence community warned about Russian meddling (Oct 7th) was also the day that the Donald Trump and Billy Bush recording came out and then an hour later Podesta's emails hit...so the Russian story scrolled off.

That and even after warning the Congressional Gang of Eight, Mitchell McConnel reportedly refused to believe the classified version of the briefing and claimed it was a partisan ploy.

Yes, Obama should have just pulled the trigger and gone on TV and accused Putin and Russia of meddling...but Trump was already claiming the election was "rigged" and if Obama had started blaming the Russians, what do you suppose Trump would have done.

And yes, Obama and the Democrats were working under the assumption that Clinton was supposed to win. Once the election occurred it was locking the barn after the horses got out.

So, wouldn't you think Trump might be worried that the Russians might come after him next?
So you just agreed with me and the article that Obama did nothing about Russian intrusion into our election process even though he knew all along they were doing it.  He even knew that Putin ordered it.  Just more fecklessness on Obama's part.  What else is new? 

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« Reply #3793 on: June 24, 2017, 12:16:55 am »

No, Forbes said that being a billionaire does not amount to creds for being successful in government...did you bother to read what they said? Should I copy/paste the whole darn article?
Three terms!

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3794 on: June 24, 2017, 12:20:36 am »

"Capitalism is not about the rich, it’s about the poor and middle class"

Buahahaha!

Someone was really high writing that article, daydreaming about socialism (i.e., a system for the poor and middle class).

This is what capitalism is about:

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3795 on: June 24, 2017, 12:24:30 am »

And he thinks he's doing so much...NOT!

Despite Claims To Contrary, Trump Has Signed No Major Laws 5 Months In


President Trump holds up the signed Department of Veterans Affairs Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act of 2017 on Friday.
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President Trump kept one of his campaign promises, signing a bill Friday to make it easier for the secretary of veterans affairs to fire and discipline employees. It came in response to the 2014 VA scandal in which employees covered up long wait times while collecting bonuses.

The bill, which passed earlier this month with strong bipartisan support, also gives the secretary authority to revoke bonuses and protects whistleblowers who report wrongdoing.

"What happened was a national disgrace and yet some of the employees involved in these scandals remained on the payrolls," Trump said just before signing the bill. "Outdated laws kept the government from holding those who failed our veterans accountable. Today we are finally changing those laws."

The Department of Veterans Affairs Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act of 2017 marks Trump's 40th law signed.

Sounds like a lot.

And in recent days, Trump has boasted about all the legislation he has signed.

"We passed and signed 38 pieces of legislation, which nobody likes to talk about," Trump said June 13 before a lunch with lawmakers. "I think probably seldom has any president and administration done more or had more success so early on, including a record number of resolutions to eliminate job-killing regulations."

And he tweeted the same message on Friday morning.

Donald J. Trump  ✔@realDonaldTrump

I've helped pass and signed 38 Legislative Bills, mostly with no Democratic support, and gotten rid of massive amounts of regulations. Nice!
5:39 AM - 23 Jun 2017

A White House spokesperson confirmed to NPR that at the time of Trump's tweet, the number was actually 39 — not 38.

Measuring laws passed by counting rather than by significance is pretty meaningless. More on that in a bit. Among modern Oval Office occupants, Presidents Jimmy Carter (52), George H.W. Bush (41) and Bill Clinton (41) had all signed more bills into law than Trump has by this point in their presidencies.

So, what has Trump accomplished with Congress so far? Nothing that political scientists would categorize as major pieces of legislation. We looked at this question as Trump hit his 100 days mark. This story contains more detail on legislation he signed in the early part of his presidency.

Ooooh, he's been so busy! But if you read the article and check the charts, Trump has been singularly ineffective. Most of the "bills" have been to overturn Obama's efforts. Yes, something he promised to do but it's not like it
's major legislation...

Regardless of all the hand waving and chest thumping, Trump has actually done little other than nominating a Supreme...How's that Travel Ban working?
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3796 on: June 24, 2017, 12:25:41 am »

Three terms!

I'll betcha $1 he doesn't last his whole term...
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« Reply #3797 on: June 24, 2017, 12:35:55 am »

I'll betcha $1 he doesn't last his whole term...
My $1 against your $2.  I'm learning from Trump. :)

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3798 on: June 24, 2017, 01:07:17 am »

Stephen Colbert Appears on Russian TV, Jokes About Presidential Run



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Stephen Colbert made an appearance on Russian TV, where he appeared to jokingly mull a presidential run.

In a video released Friday, Colbert appeared on "Evening Urgant," a late-night style talk show that airs on Russia's Channel 1. The back and forth between Colbert and host Ivan Urgant took place partly in Russian, partly in English.

In the interview, Colbert and Urgant played a Russian roulette-style drinking game with multiple vodka shots.

Lifting a glass to the studio audience upon taking his first shot, Colbert said, "To the beautiful and friendly Russian people, I have no idea why no members of the Trump administration can remember meeting you." Colbert then took a shot and ate a pickle.

After Urgant took a shot, Colbert asked, "By the way, can I announce something?" He then continued, "I'm here in Russia ... I am here to announce that I am considering a run for president in 2020, and I thought it would be better to cut out the middle man and just tell the Russians myself. If anyone would like to work on my campaign in an unofficial capacity, please, just come let me know."

Note when you click on the video link you do need to wait through a few seconds of a promo to a 1TV.ru TV show...but even though I don't speak Russian, it's kinda funny to watch...something about eating pickles after a vodka shot? It's about 5 minutes...
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3799 on: June 24, 2017, 04:34:10 am »

My $1 against your $2.  I'm learning from Trump. :)

Very Trump-like.  You think you're on a winner and being clever but you are being completely unrealistic and unreasonable and silly.  Got him to a tee.
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