P1 at Kina?

[ErikKaffehr]

Hi,

I would guess that they come in two sizes, 100 MP full frame and 50 MP 1.3X. Developing 60 or 80 MP sensor would  mean designing two additional sensors. So, that would mean a very high RD-cost.

It would probably be possible to design a pixel that works better with shifts, but my guess is that Sony's designs are leaning heavily on designs for smaller sensors.

What I perhaps would hope for is a new sensor with phase detecting AF capability.

Best regards
Erik

does anybody belive in new backs - maybe with 60 or 80 cmos sensor?

[gmfotografie]

but the iq3 backs are quite new , or? just one year - after this "short" period you think p1 will release new backs?

[dchew]

Erik,
The current 100mp sensor sized to 44x33 is 68mp. Isn't that a (relatively) low-cost development option, or does that sensor not scale down well?

Dave

Hi,

I would guess that they come in two sizes, 100 MP full frame and 50 MP 1.3X. Developing 60 or 80 MP sensor would  mean designing two additional sensors. So, that would mean a very high RD-cost.

It would probably be possible to design a pixel that works better with shifts, but my guess is that Sony's designs are leaning heavily on designs for smaller sensors.

What I perhaps would hope for is a new sensor with phase detecting AF capability.

Best regards
Erik

[ErikKaffehr]

Hi,

Yes, that would be reasonable from R&D standpoint, I guess. I would guess that a future 44x33 sensor may end up in that region, or a bit higher.

My point was rather that 60MP and 80MP full frame variants were not likely.

Best regards
Erik

Erik,
The current 100mp sensor sized to 44x33 is 68mp. Isn't that a (relatively) low-cost development option, or does that sensor not scale down well?

Dave

[uaiomex]

Why not a 48X36 sensor 80+ mp of this chip? With the exception of the X1D all MF cameras and backs could use it. With the plus of being the first CMOS 2FF sensor ever.

Hi,

Yes, that would be reasonable from R&D standpoint, I guess. I would guess that a future 44x33 sensor may end up in that region, or a bit higher.

My point was rather that 60MP and 80MP full frame variants were not likely.

Best regards
Erik

[BernardLanguillier]

Why not a 48X36 sensor 80+ mp of this chip? With the exception of the X1D all MF cameras and backs could use it. With the plus of being the first CMOS 2FF sensor ever.

Wouldn't it better to simplify digital MF with only 2 sensor sizes?

Cheers,
Bernard

[gmfotografie]

but the price range between 50mp and 100mp is huge.
i really want a mf back but actually stick with some problems -

cmos great but the 50mp has a crop factor - the 100mp is to expensive
ccd 80mp are now affordable but have no liveview and low base iso, old technique, price trend ?

therefore i would be happy if we see a 60 and 80 cmos back with a large sensor compared to the actual 50mp

(i shoot with a 5diii - knowing the benefits of liveview , shooting at 400 or 800 iso , and the fullframe "thinking" )

[Christopher]

I think the main point is that a larger chip costs pretty much we same no matter whether it is 60,80 or 100MP.

I think the added development costs for a new chip which in physical site is between the current ones is just way to expensive. In addition I have the feeling that Sony is quite happy with these to sizes and so are the manufacturer.


Christopher Hauser
ch@chauser.eu

[eronald]

Wouldn't it better to simplify digital MF with only 2 sensor sizes?

Cheers,
Bernard

I don't think chip prices at this size are significant anymore. It's now about marketing.

Remember that a Phase *body* costs as much as a Pentax MF  *camera*

Edmund

[BernardLanguillier]

I don't think chip prices at this size are significant anymore. It's now about marketing.

Remember that a Phase *body* costs as much as a Pentax MF  *camera*

Yep,,I know. My comment was marketing minded.

Cheers,
Bernard

[E.J. Peiker]

My number one wish for Phase is to intro a Schneider Kreuznach 25-50mm to round out the zoom line and get the zooms into real wide angle territory.  I'd backup the Brinks Truck for that one