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Hardbox for Broncolor
« on: August 17, 2016, 02:49:33 PM »

This is directed at Ulf I guess as it seems he knows more Broncolor stuff than a lot of people. I was wondering if there was a Bron mount specific shaper similar to the Profoto Hard Box. I realize you can make one or just use tight black flags around an open head, but didn't know if there was a cleaner option.

Thanks all....

-Craig
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Re: Hardbox for Broncolor
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2016, 03:02:48 PM »

Bron sunlite set is a similar effect light I believe. Never used one (but always wanted to) so can't tell you the exact lighting quality but effectively is a special flash tube making the light source smaller and harder with barn doors to shape the light.

EDIT: link to product page on brons website.

Broncolor Sunlite Set
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Re: Hardbox for Broncolor
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2016, 03:11:45 PM »

Bron sunlite set is a similar effect light I believe. Never used one (but always wanted to) so can't tell you the exact lighting quality but effectively is a special flash tube making the light source smaller and harder with barn doors to shape the light.

EDIT: link to product page on brons website.

Broncolor Sunlite Set

I did see that and would be curious to try. The difference I would think would be that the barn doors, closed all the way, would have you looking into the end of the tube, vs the Hard Box has you looking at the side of the tube. Maybe, with the different tubes, this is not such a difference.
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Re: Hardbox for Broncolor
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2016, 03:46:53 PM »

This is directed at Ulf I guess as it seems he knows more Broncolor stuff than a lot of people. I was wondering if there was a Bron mount specific shaper similar to the Profoto Hard Box. I realize you can make one or just use tight black flags around an open head, but didn't know if there was a cleaner option.

Thanks all....

-Craig

Craig, You may use an "open" fresnel (without the fresnel lens attached) take a look at Chris thread, where I also pointed this out and Chris also did a  test: http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=107293.0

The sunlight set works very well, but it´s not the cheapest solution as it includes a dedicated flash tube and you´re stuck with this single use. Also ellipsoids will give you a very clear shadow with the obvious downside of just lighting a sharp limited area but can work extremely well depending on your needs.
But most often an open head will do the trick just don't point the head it in the direction you want to light but use the side instead, key is to use the smallest shape of the tube and this is from the side. Thanks for valuing my thoughts btw :-)

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Re: Hardbox for Broncolor
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2016, 06:38:51 AM »

Apparently there is a Chinese copy of the Profoto HardBox, with interchangeable mount. Never tried it though. It costs about 250 US$, in China.
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Re: Hardbox for Broncolor
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2016, 09:20:27 AM »

hmmmm. looks interesting. I'll try to find it. If you know of any links to a way to order this to the states that would be appreciated.
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Re: Hardbox for Broncolor
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2016, 08:32:09 AM »

I am contacting the shop to see if they can ship to the US. Fingers crossed!

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Re: Hardbox for Broncolor
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2016, 11:11:22 PM »

There is Brons BoxLite. Its a box shape and has a plexi in front. Great light.
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Re: Hardbox for Broncolor
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2016, 12:31:31 PM »

There is Brons BoxLite. Its a box shape and has a plexi in front. Great light.

Phil, you´ll probably won´t find anything more far way from that light characteristic. That "Boxlight" is a softlight, while the one we´ve been discussing here is to imitate a strong point source with a sharp shadow like sun light.

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Re: Hardbox for Broncolor
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2016, 03:38:25 PM »

in the interim I've been just surrounding my pulso heads aimed up/sans reflector with a cinefoil hood only barely opened in the direction I want to throw a crisp light. it's not so terrible. I'm still really curious to play with the sunlight set. Here i'm using the set up from above as a back edge to make it feel like a sunny morning on a day that was very dull.
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Re: Hardbox for Broncolor
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2016, 12:58:18 PM »

The Cinefoil solution seems promising.  The light coming from the back makes the qualities hard to distinguish. I would need to see more shadows and fall-off.

Here is an interesting thread about trying to make a DIY solution:

http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=41247

I think the bottom line on this is eliminating reflections (black interior and some distance of run from the flash tube to eliminate stray light which might bounce off of other surfaces--walls, ceiling, floor or ground, etc) and exposing as little area of the flash tube to make it as much of a point source as possible (why the strobe unit is at a 90 degree angle.  Presumably a differently shaped flash tube would benefit from a different orientation). 

This leads me to speculate that this might be a viable solution (although aimed at a different system):

https://www.amazon.com/Godox-Snoot-Honeycomb-Speedlite-Flash/dp/B00F15063U

The tube on this unit (Godox 180/360) is shaped like a test tube, so the orientation from the snoot  makes it quite a small light source.  Black paint makes it non-reflective and the grid presumably further restricts reflections due to spread. I'm guessing the light would have to be backed up a bit to cover much area :). But it makes me think that with a cylindrical (test tube shaped) flash, a larger snoot connected to a reflector painted black (without the built-in grid?) might work...

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