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jrp

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Calibrating a European NEC PA302w
« on: May 28, 2016, 01:37:09 PM »

There seem to be a number of different monitor profiling utilities from NEC and others that can be used to calibrate this monitor, including one for medical analysis. (I think that it is the Spectraview flavour, not the Reference one, which was much more expensive and unavailable, or the Multisync.)

Do any of these, including the rebadged basiccolour profiler adjust the hardware, or do the all work through the video card?

Given that the monitor is calibrated out of the factory, and one of the Spectraview II software features is adjust for aging and, at least on the Mac, spit out an updated profile, is it worth calibrating at all?

I have an i1 Display Pro profiler. Should I use the basiccolour, the Xrite software, or Argyllshire CMS / DisplayCal?

I like the monitor, although the new 5k Mac monitors seems to make pics look slicker than they should.


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Re: Calibrating a European NEC PA302w
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2016, 02:23:14 PM »

Do any of these, including the rebadged basiccolour profiler adjust the hardware, or do the all work through the video card?

Given that the monitor is calibrated out of the factory, and one of the Spectraview II software features is adjust for aging and, at least on the Mac, spit out an updated profile, is it worth calibrating at all?

I have an i1 Display Pro profiler. Should I use the basiccolour, the Xrite software, or Argyllshire CMS / DisplayCal?

1. All calibration should be taking place in the display hardware for NEC SpectraViews with their software.
2. Calibrated from the factory for what? Is that the calibration you need?
3. Entirely up to you. However, to take full advantage of the SpectraView hardware, you probably want to use it's bundled software.
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Re: Calibrating a European NEC PA302w
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2016, 03:28:14 PM »

Thanks Dog.  It is quite hard to determine what the bundled software is ... That is partly my question. Factory calibration seems to be 160 lums, full gamut.
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Re: Calibrating a European NEC PA302w
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2016, 03:39:14 PM »

As far as I know, there are only 2 pieces of software capable of programming the hardware of a Spectraview.  The US version of the SpectraviewII s/w and basICColor Display (which is what NEC uses/sells/includes in the non-USA market).

All the other software (i1Profiler, Argyll, etc) does NOT talk to the panel hardware.

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Re: Calibrating a European NEC PA302w
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2016, 04:27:20 AM »

Any PA302W can be hardware calibrated by NEC SpectraView II, basICColor Display/SpectraView Profiler, GammaComp MD QA, or NEC MultiProfiler, where calibrations are done without a sensor basing on factory measurements.

It's worth to mention that SpectraView II software - which is most convenient - is now available in EU, and works in synergy with NEC MultiProfiler.

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Re: Calibrating a European NEC PA302w
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2016, 09:31:22 AM »

Thanks.  I did not realise that.  Do I buy it from the US website?  It does not appear to be purchasable on the UK one (https://www.nec-display-solutions.com/p/uk/en/products/software/details/support/rp/SpectraViewII.xhtml)
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Re: Calibrating a European NEC PA302w
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2016, 10:08:11 AM »

I'm not sure.  You can but who knows if the system is smart enough to figure out you're from the UK vs. US and stops you.  You could also try B&H but that might be a physical package and then add shipping/import tax.

Here's the US page.........

http://www.necdisplay.com/p/SVIISOFT-W

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Re: Calibrating a European NEC PA302w
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2016, 01:04:03 PM »

Thanks.  I did not realise that.  Do I buy it from the US website?  It does not appear to be purchasable on the UK one (https://www.nec-display-solutions.com/p/uk/en/products/software/details/support/rp/SpectraViewII.xhtml)

Check at colorconfidence.com

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Re: Calibrating a European NEC PA302w
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2016, 05:11:17 PM »

Thanks.  Their website (search engine) is like from the 2000s.  The software is not immediately available.

Clicking through the NEC website, they put me on to their ex-Eizo man in Europe, Middle East and Asia, who bounces me across to ... colurconfidence.

No resolution so far, as it's a Bank Holiday in the UK (as it is in Germany, where NEC seem to be headquartered).

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Re: Calibrating a European NEC PA302w
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2016, 08:59:23 AM »

Although a rather convoluted process, that that worked; I have the software.

The only issue now is deciding on the brightness.

Out of the factory, the monitor is, I think 160cd/m2 (or at least that's what Multiprofiler claims).

For Photo processing, the Spectraview II present is 140.

The normal standard value that everyone seems to use is 120, unless they are preparing for printing, when they can go down to 80.

I had forgotten that the internal calibration means that the meter seems to read only 3 colour patches, the rest being various shades of grey.
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Re: Calibrating a European NEC PA302w
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2016, 09:32:14 AM »

I usually work at 30cd/m˛, which value is convenient for my eyes and gives good representation of the print in typical, real life home viewing conditions. I also made brighter calibrations to mimic the office/store environment, and to predict predict what my photos will look like on internet/FB, where users typically use bright monitors, laptops, smartphones, tablets, TVs etc. You can prepare up to 5 presets and switch between them using monitors up and down buttons.

Although a rather convoluted process, that that worked; I have the software.

The only issue now is deciding on the brightness.

Out of the factory, the monitor is, I think 160cd/m2 (or at least that's what Multiprofiler claims).

For Photo processing, the Spectraview II present is 140.

The normal standard value that everyone seems to use is 120, unless they are preparing for printing, when they can go down to 80.

I had forgotten that the internal calibration means that the meter seems to read only 3 colour patches, the rest being various shades of grey.
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