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jdyke

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« on: May 25, 2006, 05:17:26 pm »

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I am strugling to understand the 'adjust black point' slider in imageprint and what it does.  Does anyone have any advice on what this should be set to when printing colour images under using mostly 'relative colorimetric'?  

I have already set my output levels in Photoshop (10 & 251  for my Epson 2200) so do I need to be fiddling with this or shoudl I leave it set on the default of 50?

I have heard that setting to low blocks up your shadows and too high opens them out too much and makes them muddy.

I could go throught the 'printing variations' method to check the difference but I am hoping that someone can save me some wasted ink and paper!

Any advice appricated.

JD
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2006, 03:46:33 pm »

For Images using perceptual  rendering intent I set the slider to 0 and for relative rendering intent I set it to 100
This matches my soft proofs to about +95% (on my  hardware calibrated Eizo and controlled 5000K viewing light)
These settings is agreed by most IP printers that I've talked to.

The "default "50 is wrong.

Patrick.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2006, 04:19:19 pm »

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A higher number produces increased shadow detail with the expense of
some saturation and contrast.
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2006, 04:39:15 pm »

You just need to experiment and see what works for you.  As with most things there's no stock answer - necessity to adjust will depend on a number of things including your bp adjusting habits in PS, your paper, your output profile, rendering intent, the nature of the image itself, etc. The important thing is that it gives a final control of a critical and sometimes problematic area in prints - the black areas.

In my case I leave it at the default 50 unless I observe a problem in the first paper proof. In particular, it solved my problem with overinking of blacks on Arches Infinity which resulted in shiny blacks. I slide it to 100 for this, but if I print the same image on PremiereArt it works fine at 50. Note that the control is actually quite fine (ie minimal effect) so I wouldn't fret about the difference between 20 and 30 for instance. In fact I tend to use it at either 50 (mostly), 100 (if Arches problem shows), or 0 (rarely, with b/w prints).

> The "default "50 is wrong.

For you perhaps. It appears to match the "pre-slider" versions of IP and works well for me for most situations. I've read some reviews that claim a setting of 100 matches the pre-slider version but this is definitely wrong or else setting it to 100 wouldn't have fixed my AI problem which I previously had to fix with ink reduction.

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