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BobDavid

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Oly 300mm + T1.4
« on: April 23, 2016, 01:56:12 pm »

1/100 f/11 ISO 200
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2016, 03:41:55 pm »

Hi Bob,

Nice picture but I am wondering why you shot this at f11? I would love to see the difference in IQ @ f4 or f5.6.
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2016, 04:31:43 pm »

Hi Bob,

Nice picture but I am wondering why you shot this at f11? I would love to see the difference in IQ @ f4 or f5.6.

With the 1.4 X adapter, the maximum aperture becomes f/5.6. I looked at some mtf charts for the lens/adapter combo. There isn't much degradation from diffraction. The benefits outweigh the negatives. This picture is from a cropped frame. The lens is THAT sharp. ... I took the photo with an E-M5 II. The magnification is too extreme for high-res mode--the moon is in motion.
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2016, 08:24:53 pm »

So Bob, how are you liking the Oly 300? I was looking forward to its release, but then it came in quite a bit more expensive than I had hoped. Not sure I can justify it--unless it's really really special.
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2016, 02:19:09 am »

I hated to put it on the credit card, but it's a hell of a great lens. I've always wanted a super long lens, and the 300 far exceeds my expectations.  The Panasonic 100-400 isn't in the same league.
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2016, 10:58:33 am »

Well it seems to be back ordered everywhere now, so that forces me to take some time to chew on it a while, instead of making an impulsive decision.
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2016, 04:44:09 pm »

The Panasonic 100-400 isn't in the same league.

It does okay, though.

(This is handheld, BTW.)

-Dave-
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2016, 01:41:15 am »

It does okay, though.

(This is handheld, BTW.)

-Dave-

Nice shot.
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2016, 02:52:09 pm »

Very cool image.  I definitely want to pick up the lens as well...I just don't use that focal length too often to justify it yet.  I will be looking forward to renting and trying it out with some astrophotography and a tracker soon. 
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2016, 04:36:46 pm »

Quick and dirty pano shot with the 300 f/4 (without T1.4)
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2016, 05:42:58 pm »

Very nice, Bob. You are providing more and more temptation here.
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2016, 01:28:50 am »

I'm selling off other gear to soften the blow. ... Damn, it is a great lens.
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2016, 02:21:10 am »

I would be curious to see a comparison between this Zuiko and the new Nikkor 300mm f/4, which, despite of being a FF lens, is much smaller, lighter and cheaper.
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2016, 10:57:18 am »

I would be curious to see a comparison between this Zuiko and the new Nikkor 300mm f/4, which, despite of being a FF lens, is much smaller, lighter and cheaper.

The Zuiko is the FF equivalent of 600mm. The 300mm FF Nikkor is probably an outstanding lens, however it's an apple and the Zuiko is an orange.
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2016, 12:50:52 am »

The Zuiko is the FF equivalent of 600mm. The 300mm FF Nikkor is probably an outstanding lens, however it's an apple and the Zuiko is an orange.

In spite of that they both are 300mm f/4 lenses, thus optically the same and has to be designed with the same specs. It is more difficult to make one for twice as large 135 sensor image circle than m43 IC. Still the Nikkor is cheaper, smaller, lighter.
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2016, 07:34:57 pm »

It is more difficult to make one for twice as large 135 sensor image circle than m43 IC.
With lenses like this of such small angular field of view (about 8º diagonal for 300mm in 35mm format) there is no significant extra challenge in getting an image circle covering the 36x24mm frame.  Optical designs for lenses like this naturally produce an image circle far larger than needed, with diameter not much smaller than the focal length: this is then cropped by the sensor to a small central portion of the image, and probably also cropped before that by the lens body and lens mount.  Note how little the MTF of long lenses falls of from centre to edge compared to normal or wide-angle lenses.

Two more important differences between a 300/4 lenses for Micro Four Thirds vs Nikon F-mount are:
a) Resolution needs in lp/mm, which are probably set higher for the smaller format and the smaller photosite spacing typically used there.
b) Sales volume and related economies of scale: Nikon F-mount clearly has higher sales volume, and 300mm gives a more widely used FOV on either Nikon FX or DX bodies than the same 300mm does on a MFT body, so I am sure that the Nikon 300/4 will continue to significantly outsell the Olympus.

I would guess that the latter is the main reason for the price difference. The most economical way to get extremely narrow FOV options like 300mm for 4/3" is to use adaptor-mounted lenses for larger formats, but of course that loses some conveniences in AF and such.
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2016, 01:49:14 pm »

I was interested in the Pan/Leica 100-400mm but after reading that the optical quality of that lens drops off at 300 to 400mm significantly I am now considering the Oly 300mm.  Normally I am not using zooms but I was thinking that the ability to zoom in would make it much easier to find your subject (like a bird in a tree). So how difficult is that with a fixed 300mm on MFT?
I would be also interested in comments about image quality at close focusing distance as that would great for semi-macros of animals which one can not get close to.
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2016, 02:53:20 pm »

I was interested in the Pan/Leica 100-400mm but after reading that the optical quality of that lens drops off at 300 to 400mm significantly…

I haven't found that to be the case (see pic earlier in this thread for an example).

-Dave-
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Re: Oly 300mm + T1.4
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2016, 09:29:35 pm »

I was interested in the Pan/Leica 100-400mm but after reading that the optical quality of that lens drops off at 300 to 400mm significantly I am now considering the Oly 300mm.  Normally I am not using zooms but I was thinking that the ability to zoom in would make it much easier to find your subject (like a bird in a tree). So how difficult is that with a fixed 300mm on MFT?
I would be also interested in comments about image quality at close focusing distance as that would great for semi-macros of animals which one can not get close to.
I was in the process of selling my 50-200mm SWD for the 300mm when I found quite a bit of fungus.  The fungus was in the zoom chamber.  While it is a weather sealed lens, zooms inevitably pump in outside air.  I live in a humid area so for this reason, I'm not a fan of zooms.  I've since cleaned out the fungus. Most of my shots are at 200mm anyway.  Sure the zoom is sometimes convenient for finding and object but I don't think it is worth it considering the availability of the Oly EE-1 Dot Sight.  So now to put my dearly beloved 50-200mm onto eBay.
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