Please let me digest your info slowly, and let's only deal with PS +ACR. For now, that's all I have.
Firstly, 'capture sharpening at native res, then up-sampling' - I understand what you are saying "you will kind of blur that by adding more pixels but no resolution".
Secondly, 'up-sampling first, then capture sharpening.' - I understand what you are saying "you do create more pixels to apply sharpening to, which could be more accurate and a bit sharper".
I don't understand "but you only have the output sharpening presets available."
That was assuming you used Lightroom to do the upsampling and output sharpening. Apparently we're talking Photoshop only. There you would still have the Output Sharpening option in the Workflow options dialog box.
In ACR I have no output sharpening presets, and anyway even if i did, I will only apply output sharpening at the final stage before printing out of PS.
In PS I may still first do some other 'creative' sharpening and/or further contrast control/dodging/burning/retouching/tweaking.
You do have an Output sharpening option in the workflow options dialog. The ACR conversion basically only offers Capture Sharpening at the native Raw file size. The Workflow options Output Sharpening is applied to the resized for output file size.
Can we go back to square one and start at the very beginning. I have Original files 16mb - 4592x3448px, and need new size at 38mb - 7200x5400px.
I need prints 15 x 20 inch prints @ 360ppi but the original files are 4592x3448px = 12.75 x 9.5 inches @360 ppi
How do I best get there in PS/ACR (I have no other programs at the moment)?
'Best' is a bit subjective, but this is what I would do with only Photoshop/ACR. Try Capture sharpening with the ACR Detail panel. As to the best settings, that's another story (Radius depends on lens quality and aperture used, Amount depends on the level of the "Detail" control you can use without creating horrible artifacts, and the masking used to hide the artifacts in featureless areas).
If you have sharpening tools like FocusMagic, then I'd be reluctant to do any sharpening in ACR, because FocusMagic is
much better at Capture sharpening. You could use it on native size ACR conversions or on Workflow options upsampled ACR conversions.
Because there are more pixels in the upsampled file versions, you can probably push the Output Sharpening further than the presets of Workflow options Output Sharpening offer, and immediately see if artifacts are created at the final print size if you do it yourself on the output resized TIFF. And as always with printing, you can even overdo the sharpening visually, because due to losses later in the output dithering/media in diffusion the extra will not be a problem.
Here is my workflow so far:
1. Basic Panel - WB, Exp, Con, Blacks, Whites, Hifhlights, Shadows, Clarity, Vibrance
2. Details panel - A, R, D, M and LNR
3. Workflow Options dialog - Image resizing> resize to fit (enter the new size)>click OK
4. Save image > tif
5. Then I go back to Workflow Options dialog and un-check re-size (to revert to original size for future use)>click OK & revert back to ACR window >click Done
6. Then I open the Tif in PS
My original question is whether to do step 3 before step 2.
You cannot do step 3 before step 2, unless you reopen a TIFF conversion with ACR.
Step 2 is applied to the native Raw file size, step 3 then (in your case) upsamples that, and optionally in the same workflow dialog box you can add some output sharpening (the Output Sharpening checkbox), which is done after the resampling, with an amount that you can choose from a few presets.
If you have a pluging like FocusMagic, I'd use that to do most if not all sharpening after the workflow upsampling to 360 PPI final print size.
Cheers,
Bart