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Monitor Calibration Device
« on: January 28, 2016, 07:23:29 pm »

I just purchased a 27" 5k Retina Mac.

What calibration device would you all recommend to calibrate the 5K monitor?

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Re: Monitor Calibration Device
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2016, 07:32:55 pm »

What calibration device would you all recommend to calibrate the 5K monitor?
X-rite i1Display Pro
http://www.amazon.com/X-Rite-EOSDIS3-i1Display-Pro-Calibration/dp/B0055MBQOW
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2016, 06:24:55 am »

Yes, definitely the X-Rite i1Display Pro.

I don't use the bundled software, though. I find DispcalGUI much much better.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2016, 12:33:44 pm »

I don't use the bundled software, though. I find DispcalGUI much much better.
Yeah, the software is OK, doesn't suck, but one can do better. But the hardware is very, very good.
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Re: Monitor Calibration Device
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2016, 02:01:04 pm »

Is it much better than than the Spyder hardware? If so, what's better about it?
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2016, 02:48:57 pm »

Spyder does more often (not always!) get complaints about color casts, and purplish low ends. Of course the internet is often more used when you are not satisfied though, but It is not that often I read something good, or even positive about the spyder.
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Re: Monitor Calibration Device
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2016, 08:44:40 pm »

What software would you recommend with the X-Rite i1 Display Pro?
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2016, 09:34:50 pm »

What software would you recommend with the X-Rite i1 Display Pro?
For me? SpectraView with my PA272W.
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2016, 06:18:14 am »

What software would you recommend with the X-Rite i1 Display Pro?

Just to clarify, the 'Spectraview' software that Andrew mentioned ONLY works w/ NEC Spectraview monitors (his PA272W).  It won't work at all w/ a Retina.

Your choices are i1Profiler (comes w/ unit, good enough and easy enough), dispcalGUI (a GUI frontend to the Argyll suite, better but a zillion knobs to tweak and can take hours) or perhaps BasICColor Display (not free).

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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2016, 08:57:35 am »

Just to clarify, the 'Spectraview' software that Andrew mentioned ONLY works w/ NEC Spectraview monitors (his PA272W).  It won't work at all w/ a Retina.

Agreed.  One or two manufacturers supply their own calibration software that works typically with the i1 Display Pro (an maybe other hardware).  This includes NEC and Eizo.  Dell provide their own versions of xrite software for some of their monitors.
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Re: Monitor Calibration Device
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2016, 12:02:57 pm »

Would the X-Rite i1 Display Pro work better with basICColor Display(more accurate), then the X-Rite DTP94 for a wide gamut monitor? I am trying to get up to speed before I buy a new moniotr. At this time I am using the HP LP2474w(had it for a long time, would like something new and a little better).
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Re: Monitor Calibration Device
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2016, 04:43:15 pm »

Doesn't i1profiler do a hardware calibration with macs? I don't think that's supported with dispcalgui or basiccolor (which is cost extra and wont do anything i1profiler wont do)

Btw anyone know how many posts I have need to post before the incredibly ridiculous 8-way capthcha is going away? I mean, really? 8 way captcha? :)

Oh, and to the posters before me: I have access to 2 DTP94. I can't really recommend them for either normal and espescially not wide gamut display. Maybe they have drifted a bit, they are very old. If you use dispcalgui, then you can profile them to a spectro though. The readings may be inaccurate, but they are consistent. Probably because they are in fact very good meters with glass filters. But they were made in an era when there only existed oldschool LCD and CRT display.
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Re: Monitor Calibration Device
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2016, 05:32:08 pm »

Btw anyone know how many posts I have need to post before the incredibly ridiculous 8-way capthcha is going away? I mean, really? 8 way captcha? :)

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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2016, 07:44:23 pm »

Doesn't i1profiler do a hardware calibration with macs?
Yes indeed for some units that are supported (assuming you're talking about actual hardware communications). It's not bad. It's not the best but since it ships with this fine hardware, by all means do try it before spending more money.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2016, 08:08:11 pm »

Yeah, mostly on iMacs and the laptops.
I don't think it's a full hardware calibration, but contrast, brightness (funny how brightness really means blacklevel other way with video displays, whereas contrast means brightness, they "contrast" as used in computer displays have no equivalent in video displays), colortemps etc. And I don't suppose it's able to move the primaries around and their luminance levels. It still needs to do a software LUT AFAIK. I'm not very familiar with macs though, so please do correct me.

Some Windows machines also use hardware when adjusting the RGB controls, but you really have no way of knowing if it's done in hardware or software. In these cases I usually just go for software. There's always some higher dE at the lowest and highest end, but that's expected.
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Re: Monitor Calibration Device
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2016, 03:16:00 am »

Wow! incredible and very interesting response !


Is there any one that actually uses the Spyder 5? and has comments? How about the Color Munki Display device? anyone out there us it?

Thank you Andrew Rodney  http://digitaldog.net/   terrific website! and information!



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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2016, 04:43:11 am »

How about the Color Munki Display device? anyone out there us it?

The Colormunki Display is the same device as the i1 Display Pro - identical functionality and accuracy - but slugged to make it slower.  That's so they can position the i1 Display Pro as a more expensive product.  It comes with reduced funtionality software, but both units run with the Argyll software and Dispcal GUI. 
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Re: Monitor Calibration Device
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2016, 09:06:13 am »



Is there any one that actually uses the Spyder 5? and has comments? How about the Color Munki Display device? anyone out there us it?

Thank you Andrew Rodney  http://digitaldog.net/   terrific website! and information!


Here's my test result. I tested 2 Spyder5 units on NEC PA242W (GBr LED backlight) using JETI Specbos 1211 as a source of reference measurement. Both Spyders were in the forest, and the inter instrumental agreement was poor:



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Re: Monitor Calibration Device
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2016, 11:58:14 am »

I have a new Spyder, the cheap version because I hear the hardware is the same. I was thinking I'd just try that OS software to run it. I've only just set it up with the included limited software so I don't have much use of it to report on.
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2016, 05:24:41 pm »

Is there any one that actually uses the Spyder 5?

Yes, the Spyder 5 Express for about $100, same hardware as the Elite that costs more than twice as much because of more advanced software features.  Like other posters above I use it with open source Dispcalgui which is better and less intrusive than the advanced bundled software of the Elite (a bit more fiddly though).  Has been doing a great job, getting deltaEs of just a few tenths throughout the range. 

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