Topic: Epson Legacy Papers (Read 7559 times)

natas · « **on:** January 20, 2016, 02:52:06 pm »

Has anyone tried any of these new papers? Just curious what people think of them.

BrianKEdwards · « **Reply #1 on:** January 20, 2016, 06:20:05 pm »

Are they available?

hugowolf · « **Reply #2 on:** January 20, 2016, 08:03:05 pm »

It would be interesting to see from where they are sourced, and if like the Canon Hanhemühle sourced papers, they are priced lower than the OEM ones.

But no, they are not yet available.

Brian A

I.T. Supplies · « **Reply #3 on:** January 22, 2016, 10:24:14 am »

Rolls are expected to ship end of Jan and sheets sometime in Feb, but this can surely change with Epson pushing the launch back from delays/issues.

Kevin Raber · « **Reply #4 on:** January 22, 2016, 02:47:00 pm »

We will have a video and article on these papers soon. They are very nice. I have tried all 4 surfaces and they are quite nice.

rdonson · « **Reply #5 on:** January 28, 2016, 07:51:46 pm »

Just got an email from ATLEX that they have the papers.

Checking the ATLEX website they have a rolls and no cut sheets

BradSmith · « **Reply #6 on:** January 29, 2016, 03:00:24 pm »

Seems like all the major retailers only have rolls or small sample packs

howardm · « **Reply #7 on:** January 29, 2016, 04:16:02 pm »

the sheets are probably on the next boat

or Epson USA is slow converting

rxchaos · « **Reply #8 on:** January 29, 2016, 04:55:00 pm »

Any thoughts on what the media settings should be for the paper on and Epson 7900 and P9000 printers.
Perhaps...
- Premium Semigloss for the Legacy Baryta
- Velvet FineArt for the Legacy Fibre
I can't seem to find any information on Epson's site.

rxchaos · « **Reply #9 on:** January 29, 2016, 06:30:16 pm »

The Epson vendor (ShadesOfPaper.com) from who I ordered the paper sent me the media settings (Epson 9000&7000) for the Epson Legacy Baryta and Fibre papers

Legacy Baryta: media type - Premium Luster Photo Paper (260)
Legacy Fibre: media type - Watercolor Paper - Radiant White

I look forward to printing my images on these papers. The papers I've mostly used are Canson Baryta, Canson RagPhotographique and Hahnemuhle PhotoRag.

If anyone has tried these new Epson papers please post your views.

Thanks.

-c

rogan · « **Reply #10 on:** January 29, 2016, 07:07:55 pm »

Cough...Canson....Cough

hugowolf · « **Reply #11 on:** January 29, 2016, 09:11:14 pm »

When I get samples, I will be interested to see if these papers are rebranded offerings of well known papers. A spectral reflectance analyis should tell an awful lot. And price point whould make a whole lot of difference.

I don't know why one would choke at the Canson word, Red River I could see.

Brian A

digitaldog · « **Reply #12 on:** January 29, 2016, 09:44:30 pm »

Quote from: hugowolf on January 29, 2016, 09:11:14 pm

When I get samples, I will be interested to see if these papers are rebranded offerings of well known papers. A spectral reflectance analyis should tell an awful lot.

And measurement data to build custom profiles of each!

Schewe · « **Reply #13 on:** January 29, 2016, 11:38:47 pm »

Quote from: hugowolf on January 29, 2016, 09:11:14 pm

When I get samples, I will be interested to see if these papers are rebranded offerings of well known papers. A spectral reflectance analyis should tell an awful lot. And price point whould make a whole lot of difference.

They are not rebranded version of any current paper. Epson sought out very experienced papermakers and coaters and specified the new papers from the ground up. LuLa's video, due soon will answer your question...

JimGoshorn · « **Reply #14 on:** January 30, 2016, 11:48:52 am »

One interesting (and slightly confusing) thing I saw in an online video about the papers is that the Legacy Fibre paper is designed to work with photo black ink for deep blacks on what was referred to as a smooth matte type (?) paper.

MHMG · « **Reply #15 on:** January 30, 2016, 10:06:40 pm »

Quote from: Schewe on January 29, 2016, 11:38:47 pm

They are not rebranded version of any current paper. Epson sought out very experienced papermakers and coaters and specified the new papers from the ground up. LuLa's video, due soon will answer your question...

Lots of Canson theory going on about these new Media offerings from Epson, even with Epson insiders that have had early access to these new Legacy papers. Jeff, I'm going to take you at your word here that these new Legacy media are not rebranded offering of media we already use and like, but it's a big stretch

Tweaking something in paper production slightly in order to claim unique product (e.g., calendering of the paper core surface) is not exactly the same as producing a whole new paper/coating formulation from the ground up. Will the enduser, for example, really be able to distinguish clear differences between Epson Legacy Fibre and Canson Rag Photographique?

I'm not judging, I'm just asking

best,
Mark
http://www.aardenburg-imaging.com

Schewe · « **Reply #16 on:** January 31, 2016, 12:03:53 am »

Quote from: MHMG on January 30, 2016, 10:06:40 pm

Tweaking something in paper production slightly in order to claim unique product (e.g., calendering of the paper core surface) is not exactly the same as producing a whole new paper/coating formulation from the ground up.

My understanding is it's somewhere between a simply tweak and a ground up from scratch new papers...I've seen and printed on them with the Epson P800 and I can tell you the combo is a noticeable improvement in Dmax and color gamut.

eleanorbrown · « **Reply #17 on:** January 31, 2016, 11:58:07 am »

Can anyone explain how a matte paper can have a higher Dmax using photo black ink rather than matte black ink? I saw this on the Epson video online also....thanks, eleanor

JRSmit · « **Reply #18 on:** January 31, 2016, 12:28:31 pm »

Quote from: Schewe on January 31, 2016, 12:03:53 am

My understanding is it's somewhere between a simply tweak and a ground up from scratch new papers...I've seen and printed on them with the Epson P800 and I can tell you the combo is a noticeable improvement in Dmax and color gamut.

Would be nice. Current there is an sort of inbalance between Dmax and gamut with the SC-P 7000/8000/9000.
In lower part of gamut especially the new printers show a slightly shrinked gamut compared to x900 series. Mean while the Dmax is about 0.3 more than the x900 ( 2.2 vs 2.5 or thereabout). On the max saturation levels of the colours, the results are sort of equal.

Paul Roark · « **Reply #19 on:** January 31, 2016, 07:49:23 pm »

"Signature Worthy," now "Legacy" ... I think the marketing department is going to run out of grandiose names for their latest batch of inkjet paper.

"In collaboration with the world's greatest artists, ... This is the Art of Papermaking at its Finest." (http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Landing/pro-photo_legacy-papers_ad.do?ref=van:us-legacy-papers:ad-landing:print-your-legacy) At least no one is going to accuse the Epson marketing department of being overly modest.

One thing that I've been told by those who deal with Epson's paper department is that they try to keep the paper they sell under a single name exactly the same so that profiles remain good for the duration of that paper name. When they do decide they need to alter the specs on a paper, a new name will appear.

To Epson's credit, they do often if not usually contract with top coating and papers suppliers. They market some very good papers, but it's just inkjet paper.

(Excuse my cynicism regarding the marketing hype.)

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

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