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AlterEgo

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Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« on: October 14, 2015, 11:47:49 AM »

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Re: Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2015, 03:41:17 PM »

They should release a 85mm f2.0 version. With its 1/2000 sec flash sync speed it would be a killer flash combo for discrete outdoor photography together with a profoto B2.

As it is, it must hurt Leica pretty hard. Not sure why anyone would prefer the Q over this beauty?

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Re: Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2015, 04:31:40 PM »

They should release a 85mm f2.0 version. With its 1/2000 sec flash sync speed it would be a killer flash combo for discrete outdoor photography together with a profoto B2.

As it is, it must hurt Leica pretty hard. Not sure why anyone would prefer the Q over this beauty?

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Re: Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2015, 04:55:01 PM »

I'll leave the relative beauty of the lenses to others, but I am glad that Sony is finally updating the RX1. With wishful thinking that the RX1 would get the D800/a7R sensor in 2014, I recycled my RX1 in late 2013 and have often missed it since then. It was one of those rare tools that was "just right" for many situations needing a small camera. An RX100iii or a Panasonic GM5 now fill that niche for me, but the final image quality is a long way from those RX1 files.

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Re: Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2015, 05:00:22 PM »

This is wonderful news!  The RX1R has been my favorite camera for shooting just about everything over the last couple of years.  The IQ with the new sensor should be out of this world.  I would even go as far as to say that this camera will match and even go beyond 50MP medium cameras.  We will see but I'm ready to order this bad boy!

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Re: Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2015, 07:08:23 PM »

Not sure why anyone would prefer the Q over this beauty?

Even if that were true, which I am not convinced of, you should thank Leica for kicking Sony's ass...

And given that they are different focal lengths, why not own both...?
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Re: Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2015, 11:19:30 PM »

Even if that were true, which I am not convinced of, you should thank Leica for kicking Sony's ass...

And given that they are different focal lengths, why not own both...?

I don't really look at this from a brand standpoint, just as 2 options for compact FF cameras.

The Leica is of course better if you absolutely prefer 28mm.

But I believe most potential buyers would consider 28mm and 35mm to be 2 reasonnably credible options for general shooting with a fixed focal. I would think that other aspects, including lens quality of course, should be more important than focal length.

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Re: Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2015, 09:31:57 AM »

The Leica has image stabilization, which could be important.

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Re: Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2015, 10:33:23 AM »

Overpriced! $3200 list...$2400 is about right

The RX1 was so slow to operate - AF was practically useless for anything besides landscapes; the macro mode was meh at best.

The new body has 5fps - but if the AF is is the same...who cares.

Image quality was wonderful on the RX1.
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Re: Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2015, 11:07:04 AM »

The RX1 was so slow to operate - AF was practically useless for anything besides landscapes; the macro mode was meh at best.

The new body has 5fps - but if the AF is is the same...who cares.

You didn't bother reading the pres release, did you? ;)

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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2015, 11:26:11 AM »

According to Sony: "AF response is about 30% faster"...than the RX1

sorry still lousy...especially for a $3200 camera. I can do better for less $s -
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Re: Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2015, 11:50:37 AM »

According to Sony: "AF response is about 30% faster"...than the RX1

sorry still lousy...especially for a $3200 camera. I can do better for less $s -

I think the list of high resolution fixed prime lens "FF" cameras that'll fit on a jacket pocket is rather short.

Good luck finding a better one.
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Re: Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2015, 02:41:27 PM »

Overpriced! $3200 list...$2400 is about right

The RX1 was so slow to operate - AF was practically useless for anything besides landscapes; the macro mode was meh at best.

The new body has 5fps - but if the AF is is the same...who cares.

Image quality was wonderful on the RX1.
It's the same AF as the a7R II which is VERY usable.
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Re: Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2015, 04:05:52 PM »

Sony cameras are good for six months max until they release another "improved" model.  I'd never buy a Sony camera. Sony TV yes
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Re: Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2015, 04:10:12 PM »

Sony cameras are good for six months max until they release another "improved" model.  I'd never buy a Sony camera. Sony TV yes
RX1R -> RX1R II = Jun 2013 -> Oct 2015
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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2015, 04:17:43 PM »

Glass half full, A 42 MP pocket camera with fixed 35mm Zeiss lens.

I could see myself having one in the pocket of my fishing vest for traveling light, but still being able to make a top quality picture.


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Re: Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2015, 04:33:54 PM »

Glass half full, A 42 MP pocket camera with fixed 35mm Zeiss lens.

I could see myself having one in the pocket of my fishing vest for traveling light, but still being able to make a top quality picture.

I don't think this is really a "pocket" camera, even the RX100M4 is not that anymore.
More like something that can be dropped into a travel pack.
At the same price you can get a Leica M9, and add some old Elmar lens. I know which I'd choose as a keeper.
I mean, look at the image on this site, linked below, this thing beats the record on number of control wheels and viewfinder per square centimeter for a camera released this century. Only the Jaeger Le Coulter Compass probably surpasses it, and that is about 60 years older.

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Re: Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2015, 08:03:39 PM »

According to Sony: "AF response is about 30% faster"...than the RX1

sorry still lousy...especially for a $3200 camera. I can do better for less $s -

I'll personally give it a try before forming such a definitive opinion.

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Bernard
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Re: Sony RX1R II ( RX1R II DSC-RX1RM2 )
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2015, 08:08:26 PM »

At the same price you can get a Leica M9, and add some old Elmar lens. I know which I'd choose as a keeper.
I mean, look at the image on this site, linked below, this thing beats the record on number of control wheels and viewfinder per square centimeter for a camera released this century.

Hum... configure it in A mode at f2.8 and auto ISO and the shutter release is the only dial you'll ever have to activate, that's one dial less than the Leica since you won't have to manual focus. If I were you I would stop photography all together and get into zen contemplation. That will remove the need to use the shutter once for all! ;)

As far as the M9 goes, it is a nice object but a much worse camera in every measurable way. Sure, there are some sweet lenses, but add one those and you are around 5,000 US$ instead of 3,000 US$.

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