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Printing At dpi 2880 Vis-A-Vis dpi 1440
« on: September 05, 2015, 08:59:39 am »

I posted this query on the QTR site, but received no responses.  Can someone here advise me?

I have for many years been printing with Quadtone RIP on my Epson 1440 at a (maximum?) dpi of 2880. I have just recently purchased from Epson a 1430 as a back-up printer. When printing initial test photos on the 1430 I noticed what is perhaps termed "laddering" (narrow lines) on about 10% of the edges (top and bottom in Portrait mode, left and right in Landscape mode) in the direction the print head moves. Thinking this was perhaps a problem with the new printer, I went over some reasonably extensive testing with an Epson tech rep on the phone and determined that the printer was working fine. He opined the problem might be with my printing software. I then ran another test print with QTR, but changed the dpi to 1440 -- and the print turned out fine. I do not understand (yet) all the relevant terminology, so I'd be most appreciative if someone would explain to me (1) the difference in meaning between the two dpi settings, (2) the possible reason for this difference between the two printers' outputs, and (3) what possible loss in quality I might experience by needing to use the 1440 dpi setting with the 1430 printer. Many thanks.

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Re: Printing At dpi 2880 Vis-A-Vis dpi 1440
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2015, 09:45:19 am »

I posted this query on the QTR site, but received no responses.  Can someone here advise me?

I have for many years been printing with Quadtone RIP on my Epson 1440 at a (maximum?) dpi of 2880. I have just recently purchased from Epson a 1430 as a back-up printer. When printing initial test photos on the 1430 I noticed what is perhaps termed "laddering" (narrow lines) on about 10% of the edges (top and bottom in Portrait mode, left and right in Landscape mode) in the direction the print head moves. Thinking this was perhaps a problem with the new printer, I went over some reasonably extensive testing with an Epson tech rep on the phone and determined that the printer was working fine. He opined the problem might be with my printing software. I then ran another test print with QTR, but changed the dpi to 1440 -- and the print turned out fine. I do not understand (yet) all the relevant terminology, so I'd be most appreciative if someone would explain to me (1) the difference in meaning between the two dpi settings, (2) the possible reason for this difference between the two printers' outputs, and (3) what possible loss in quality I might experience by needing to use the 1440 dpi setting with the 1430 printer. Many thanks.

Hi Jim,

These 1440 / 2880 DPI (dots per inch) settings are related to the dithering process that is used to create intermediate colors from only a limited number of ink colors. One would expect that the 2880 DPI setting uses a finer pattern with droplet placement at the highest physical/mechanical positioning possible for the printer.

Maybe there was another issue complicating the analysis of your issue, namely the actual pixel resolution that the printer driver uses. The Epson printers are capable of using 2 distinct pixel resolutions (PPI = pixels per inch). The higher (720 PPI) resolution is usually disabled, until the 'Finest detail' selection is activated in the printer driver options. When it is disabled, any input to the printer driver will be resampled to 360 PPI, and the resampling method is a relatively low quality one, which may lead to visible resampling artifacts if the subject matter (and the viewer) is critical enough.

Each uniform color pixel (at 1/720th inch position accuracy) will be subdivided in even smaller mechanical placement positions to place dithered droplets for simulated intermediate ink colors.

Then there is also a possibility that print head alignment for your output media was not optimal.

These three printer-side issues may or may not amplify each other. Of course, there is also the issue of image resolution as it is sent to the printer. It's best to resample to 720 PPI with a good software resampling algorithm, output sharpen after that, and then send that (with color managed tones) to the printer driver (which can skip resampling, and only needs to dither and drive the head and paper transport mechanism).

One would expect that if the image data is properly tailor-made at 720 PPI first, that the 2880 DPI dithering setting would provide the best quality (most detailed/smooth dithering of color). But since you experienced otherwise, there may be something else throwing a spanner in the works. Do check you driver's 'Finest detail' option, and make sure it is active.

If you want to test resolution and head alignment issues, you can use my Printer resolution test target. Don't worry is you cannot make a perfect print of that target though, it's hyper critical, but it might reveal other (mechanical) mis-alignment/resolution issues that should be addressed first.

Cheers,
Bart
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Re: Printing At dpi 2880 Vis-A-Vis dpi 1440
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2015, 10:38:20 am »

Jim, try going from bidirectional to unidirectional in QTR and see if that addresses the laddering effect.

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Re: Printing At dpi 2880 Vis-A-Vis dpi 1440
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2015, 10:45:46 am »

Jim, try going from bidirectional to unidirectional in QTR and see if that addresses the laddering effect.

SG


SG: I always print unidirectional, but thanks for the suggestion.  I just am puzzled as to why the difference between the behavior of the two printers.  And perhaps more importantly -- as I seem to have found a solution to successful printing with the 1430 (i.e., using dpi of 1440) -- whether I'm losing print quality by using the 1430 printer instead of the 1400 printer.
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Re: Printing At dpi 2880 Vis-A-Vis dpi 1440
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2015, 12:29:15 pm »

this is nothing so complicated, and you can't fix it.. QTR can not print the leading or following edges cleanly. In fact the Epson driver does some special weaving at the beginning and end to avoid this, QTR can't. The work around is to always use initial and following margins of around 1/2 inch. THE QTR yahoo forum would have more info on it, but that's the issue
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Re: Printing At dpi 2880 Vis-A-Vis dpi 1440
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2015, 12:43:25 pm »

this is nothing so complicated, and you can't fix it.. QTR can not print the leading or following edges cleanly. In fact the Epson driver does some special weaving at the beginning and end to avoid this, QTR can't. The work around is to always use initial and following margins of around 1/2 inch. THE QTR yahoo forum would have more info on it, but that's the issue

Tyler:  Many thanks for your additional clarification.  I am in fact now getting useful information (confirming yours) on the QTR Yahoo forum.  But the remaining "mystery" for me is still why I can print fine at 2880 dpi on my Epson 1400 but not on my Epson 1430.  From what I gather from replies on the QTR Yahoo forum, there are apparently mechanical/technical differences between the two printers which would account for this disparity in print output. 
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