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Canon IPF6400 resolution
DryAxE:
Hi Luminous Landscape,
i have recently sold Epson 3880 to upgrade to Canon IPF6400 mostly due to printing from roll. I have read lots of reviews that x400 series are very capable fine art printers, but when i compare prints with my ex. Epson 3880 there are clearly more visible dots due to smaller resolution. I have trouble to find a way to print the images at higher resolutions since all the driver offers is "highest 600x600dpi", no matter what the paper type is. This problem frustrates me since i expected superior quality to Epson 3880. Please help me find a way to push this printer to its maximal potential.
JohnBrew:
I have both printers. A print from either one, mounted on the wall, is indistinguishable from two feet away.
DryAxE:
Yeah i believe that 2 feet away makes it indistinguishable but what about close up view. Online reviews could not say Epson x900 series and Canon x400 series have almost the same output if max resolution of canon is 600x600. Where is the option for 2400x1200?
Mark D Segal:
--- Quote from: DryAxE on September 02, 2015, 07:00:59 am ---Hi Luminous Landscape,
i have recently sold Epson 3880 to upgrade to Canon IPF6400 mostly due to printing from roll. I have read lots of reviews that x400 series are very capable fine art printers, but when i compare prints with my ex. Epson 3880 there are clearly more visible dots due to smaller resolution. I have trouble to find a way to print the images at higher resolutions since all the driver offers is "highest 600x600dpi", no matter what the paper type is. This problem frustrates me since i expected superior quality to Epson 3880. Please help me find a way to push this printer to its maximal potential.
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I think John Brew hit the nail on the head. But I'm more curious about your initial post observations cited here. If you are able to see visible dots from either of these printers, it means there is something wrong with the printers, or you are using a magnifying glass. Most likely the latter. Why on earth is this important? Isn't the final objective to look at a print and be satisfied with the quality from normal viewing distance? As for the "dpi" business - forget about it - largely meaningless. The dithering algorithms of these printers are so sophisticated that none of us can tell anything from such a statistic. If Epson is 720 and Canon 600, without a great deal of other (proprietary and unavailable) information about how these printers manage droplet sizes and lay down the ink, the comparison is useless. I don't own one, but I'm pretty sure 600 dpi is the maximum from a Canon professional printer, which is fine. Instead of being frustrated, just focus on how to get the finest prints you can from your new printer, and enjoy! :-)
Bart_van_der_Wolf:
--- Quote from: DryAxE on September 02, 2015, 07:00:59 am ---Hi Luminous Landscape,
i have recently sold Epson 3880 to upgrade to Canon IPF6400 mostly due to printing from roll. I have read lots of reviews that x400 series are very capable fine art printers, but when i compare prints with my ex. Epson 3880 there are clearly more visible dots due to smaller resolution.
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Hi,
There will also be a visible difference (at closer than normal viewing conditions) due to the dithering method used, but the maximum resolution should still be 600 PPI maximum on the Canon's, which is visually almost impossible to distinguish from 300 PPI except for the very finest high contrast detail. It should therefore also be pretty close to the higher 720PPI Epson setting (with 'finest detail' switched on), and virtually indistinguishable at normal viewing distances.
--- Quote ---I have trouble to find a way to print the images at higher resolutions since all the driver offers is "highest 600x600dpi", no matter what the paper type is.
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The "Highest" 600 PPI setting does offer much more data to do the output sharpening on than with 300 PPI, and maybe you just need to use different settings than you are used to with your Epson. Also make sure that the head alignment is done on the actual paper you are using.
--- Quote ---This problem frustrates me since i expected superior quality to Epson 3880. Please help me find a way to push this printer to its maximal potential.
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Well 600 PPI is its max (and 720 PPI for the Epson), but maybe the output sharpening needs to be modified, or the printer is not optimally adjusted? You also didn't mention if the image data was 600 PPI natively, or if it was resampled to that resolution and then sharpened. Maybe you processing can be improved?
To verify the native resolution capabilities (so without resampling and output sharpening effects), and test if the printer achieves the 600 PPI resolution, you can use a test target I created for that purpose.
If resampling is involved, then I'd recommend to review your resampling and output sharpening workflow.
Cheers,
Bart
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