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MFD Processing Challenge
« on: August 01, 2015, 10:57:13 am »

Hi,

Here is an image that I have never been happy with. Would be interesting what different photographers come up with:



The raw images are here:

http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Articles/ProcessingChallenge/20130820-CF043880.IIQ



There is no first place, but I would like to post any suggested processing here:

http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Articles/ProcessingChallenge/

Best regards
Erik
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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2015, 12:01:46 pm »

Erik, I feel there is a lack of direct light in this image; it might be better to choose another. When there is no light, what one can do is limited.

The other image was challenging because of the wide range of light and shadows, but also interesting precisely because of this

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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2015, 12:22:53 pm »

Shots like this with bright sky and without direct light onto them are so difficult to process, even tougher as it is flare affected. It is very easy to make the subject of interest too dark with the eye going straight for the sky and raising the shadows too much makes the contrast/colour go strange and picture look very processed with such a bright foreground. This may be a good candidate for luminosity masks.

This is my best attempt in LR.
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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2015, 12:30:39 pm »

Edmund,

Thanks for your suggestion. I will post the other image ASAP. But I guess it needs to go on another subforum as it was shot on 35mm.

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Erik

Erik, I feel there is a lack of direct light in this image; it might be better to choose another. When there is no light, what one can do is limited.

The other image was challenging because of the wide range of light and shadows, but also interesting precisely because of this

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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2015, 03:44:02 pm »

Shots like this with bright sky and without direct light onto them are so difficult to process, even tougher as it is flare affected. It is very easy to make the subject of interest too dark with the eye going straight for the sky and raising the shadows too much makes the contrast/colour go strange and picture look very processed with such a bright foreground. This may be a good candidate for luminosity masks.

This is my best attempt in LR.

Mark says it so much more eloquently than I could ever do.

I think you can post here - I'm sure one or two of us don't own any MF gear :)

Edmund



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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2015, 04:05:28 pm »

Hi Edmund,

Here are both my images:




Raw files are here:

http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Articles/ProcessingChallenge/20130820-CF043880.IIQ

http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Articles/ProcessingChallenge/20130820-CF043904.IIQ



Mark says it so much more eloquently than I could ever do.

I think you can post here - I'm sure one or two of us don't own any MF gear :)

Edmund




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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2015, 04:28:33 pm »

whereupon I repost my first attempt :)

if you could post a decently sized tiff or raw somewhere, I could try some more advanced retouch techniques.

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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2015, 04:39:13 pm »

Hi Edmund,

I had a senior moment or two much wine, possibly both.

Raw files are here:

http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Articles/ProcessingChallenge/20130820-CF043880.IIQ

http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Articles/ProcessingChallenge/20130820-CF043904.IIQ

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whereupon I repost my first attempt :)

if you could post a decently sized tiff or raw somewhere, I could try some more advanced retouch techniques.

Edmund


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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2015, 04:51:30 pm »

Hi,

Here is an image that I have never been happy with. Would be interesting what different photographers come up with:



The raw images are here:

http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Articles/ProcessingChallenge/20130820-CF043880.IIQ



There is no first place, but I would like to post any suggested processing here:

http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Articles/ProcessingChallenge/

Best regards
Erik

Hi, the light is pretty flat and you exposed basically on the 1/4 left of the histogram (to save highlight detail in the clouds I assume) making the file extremely underexposed. Even so I was surprised at how deep the file was. I did some quick adjustments in Lightroom and got this after just literally 2 minutes (using my crapola laptop monitor)

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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2015, 05:58:21 pm »

another view
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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2015, 06:07:13 pm »

My Attempt in Camera Raw.


Don't know if it helps to post what was done :

Main image : Temp 6750; Tint +16; Exp +2.45 Cont +12; Highlights -91 Shadows +29 Whites +38 Blacks -11 Clarity +15 Vibrance +10 Saturation 0
Graduated filter on water at bottom Temp -17 ; Exp +0.95 Highlights -46 Shadows -84 Saturation +49
Ajustment brush on Sky Temp -17 ; Exp +0.05; Highlights -90; Shadows -43
Adjustment brush on central rocks Exp -0.05 Contrast +22 Highlights +20
Adjustment brush on Trees Exp +0.25 Contrast +12 Highlights +25 Clarity +22 Saturation +17
Adjustment brush on Man woman and top half of boat Temp +8 Exp +0.40 Shadows +22 Saturation +2

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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2015, 06:56:28 pm »

My Attempt in Camera Raw.


Don't know if it helps to post what was done :

Main image : Temp 6750; Tint +16; Exp +2.45 Cont +12; Highlights -91 Shadows +29 Whites +38 Blacks -11 Clarity +15 Vibrance +10 Saturation 0
Graduated filter on water at bottom Temp -17 ; Exp +0.95 Highlights -46 Shadows -84 Saturation +49
Ajustment brush on Sky Temp -17 ; Exp +0.05; Highlights -90; Shadows -43
Adjustment brush on central rocks Exp -0.05 Contrast +22 Highlights +20
Adjustment brush on Trees Exp +0.25 Contrast +12 Highlights +25 Clarity +22 Saturation +17
Adjustment brush on Man woman and top half of boat Temp +8 Exp +0.40 Shadows +22 Saturation +2

Dave



Dave, Gigi,

 If I may be allowed a joke, you missed the "Time of Death" stamp in those settings.
 You tried real hard; but by the time you got to the patient life had gone. Try the other one, it's more fun :)
 No offense intended to Erik - sometimes an image we like somehow doesn't quite make it because we got the capture wrong.

Edmund
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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2015, 07:32:35 pm »


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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2015, 07:37:02 pm »

Hi Dave,

Thanks a lot! Much better than my conversion!

Best regards
Erik

My Attempt in Camera Raw.


Don't know if it helps to post what was done :

Main image : Temp 6750; Tint +16; Exp +2.45 Cont +12; Highlights -91 Shadows +29 Whites +38 Blacks -11 Clarity +15 Vibrance +10 Saturation 0
Graduated filter on water at bottom Temp -17 ; Exp +0.95 Highlights -46 Shadows -84 Saturation +49
Ajustment brush on Sky Temp -17 ; Exp +0.05; Highlights -90; Shadows -43
Adjustment brush on central rocks Exp -0.05 Contrast +22 Highlights +20
Adjustment brush on Trees Exp +0.25 Contrast +12 Highlights +25 Clarity +22 Saturation +17
Adjustment brush on Man woman and top half of boat Temp +8 Exp +0.40 Shadows +22 Saturation +2

Dave


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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2015, 08:11:24 pm »

Hi Dave,

Thanks a lot! Much better than my conversion!

Best regards
Erik

Erik,

The other one is a really nice file IMHO,I just had another look at it, and I will be interested to see what others make of it. I'd need several hours to do better than the sketch I posted.

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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2015, 08:25:49 pm »

Still up for the challenge my attempt at the second one.

Again in ACR - this time adjustments were:
Main image Temp 6150; Tint +15; Exp +0.35; Cont +3; Highlight -2: Shadows +86, Whites +48 Blacks -16
Graduated Filter on Water Temp -16; Exp +0.75 Cont +21; Highlights +28; Shadows -21; Clarity +14 ; Saturation +3
Local Adjustment brushes :
Sky Temp -9; Exp -0.85; Contrast +84; Higlight +44 Shadows -84 ; Saturation -29
High Mountains Temp +14; Exp -.8 Contrast +55; Highlights +17 Shadows -81 Clarity +24; Saturation +3
Peak of highest mountain Exp -0.5
Foreground trees and green on edges of slopes Temp +11 Tint -31 Exp +1.20; Contrast +48 : Highlights +18 Shadows -11 Clarity +47
Background trees on left Temp-4 Exp -0.25
Right hand half of water Exp -0.40 Shadows -2


Thanks Erik for posting these.
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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2015, 08:33:53 pm »

Just playing

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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2015, 08:51:34 pm »

After posting the second image I went back and tweaked the first to give it a closer look and feel to the second.



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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2015, 10:23:19 pm »

After posting the second image I went back and tweaked the first to give it a closer look and feel to the second.



Dave

Building on what Dave managed to do globally, and where I failed - some sharpening, burning and cropping yields this.
Dave you are a better man than me :)

Reminds me of that poem, how does it go?  "Under the greying sun, the snowy torrents storm down to an ice-tossed sea" :)

Edmund
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Re: MFD Processing Challenge
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2015, 10:10:20 am »

Personally, I don't like things oversaturated or overcontrasty... maybe just a bit warmer... IMO, a landscape is always depended on the correct sky color...

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