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LesPalenik

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Re: Disturbing
« Reply #80 on: August 06, 2015, 01:30:10 am »

One lion less out of 20,000 wouldn't be such a big loss, however, this fellow was collared and subject of a multi-year study, so killing him was a great loss.
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Re: Disturbing
« Reply #81 on: August 06, 2015, 03:59:45 pm »

One lion less out of 20,000 wouldn't be such a big loss, however, this fellow was collared and subject of a multi-year study, so killing him was a great loss.

It wasn't a great loss to Jericho the brother of Cecil who with Cecil previously ruled the pride.  Now Cecil has exclusivity to mate with all the females.  He's one happy lion.

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Re: Disturbing
« Reply #82 on: August 07, 2015, 08:05:39 am »

It wasn't a great loss to Jericho the brother of Cecil who with Cecil previously ruled the pride.  Now Cecil has exclusivity to mate with all the females.  He's one happy lion.

Just to clarify, Alan, on the savannah, Jericho has now the exclusive mating rights. But deep in the lionesses hearts, it will be always Cecil.
BTW, the two lions were not related, but apparently, had a bond "close to brotherhood." Let's just say, they were soul brothers. 
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Re: Disturbing
« Reply #83 on: August 07, 2015, 01:48:26 pm »

Interesting opinion of a Zimbabwean.   He thinks Americans are pretty screwy.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/05/opinion/in-zimbabwe-we-dont-cry-for-lions.html

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Re: Disturbing
« Reply #84 on: August 07, 2015, 04:53:33 pm »

In 1975 there were still 250,000 lions. Today only 10%, or 25,000, remain. Statistics for many wild species are similar. For instance, about one third of the wild orangutans have vanished in just the last 10 years, and the populations of numerous song bird species in North America have declined by 70% to 90% since World War II. At the same time the world's human population has more than doubled since 1968. Coincidence?

Regardless of the reason or reasons, statistics make it obvious that many wild animals are headed for extinction. Some people are happy about it and others lament it, but it's happening with or without either group.
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Re: Disturbing
« Reply #85 on: August 07, 2015, 05:10:56 pm »

Seriously, people!? Four pages over a hunting anecdote? It should be much more about the internet mob "justice" and the rise of the no-life, judgmental freaks that comprise it. Some people seem to think that their likes and dislikes are so universal and morally superior that they need to be shoved down the throat onto everyone else.
Nice bit of hypocrisy there as you are more than happy to offer your opinions/likes/dislikes on most things, often extremely forcefully whilst being rude and insulting to to other posters. As you are here being patronising and sneering to those who care about things you do not.
 
Killing animals is actually quite a serious matter as the stupid short sighted attitude people have to animals may ironically be our ultimate undoing.
These number Dean mentions are not a good thing.
In 1975 there were still 250,000 lions. Today only 10%, or 25,000, remain. Statistics for many wild species are similar. For instance, about one third of the wild orangutans have vanished in just the last 10 years, and the populations of numerous song bird species in North America have declined by 70% to 90% since World War II. At the same time the world's human population has more than doubled since 1968. Coincidence?

Regardless of the reason or reasons, statistics make it obvious that many wild animals are headed for extinction. Some people are happy about it and others lament it, but it's happening with or without either group.

Companies that sell pesticides that may be wiping out bees are trying to sue European governments to allow them to carry on despite the fact this potentially could be completely disastrous for us.
Profit coming before everything else is humankind at its most stupid.
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Re: Disturbing
« Reply #86 on: September 01, 2015, 02:01:47 am »

A couple of quotes from Oscar Wilde seem apposite:  "The unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible"  and  "a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing".
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Re: Disturbing
« Reply #87 on: September 04, 2015, 08:21:25 pm »

btw didn't one startup-turned-mutibillioner founder claimed to eat what he kills for a year... now I know what I do not use that product at all  :D
Who are you talking about?
However if someone kills an animal and then actually eats it, is that not better than all those people who buy meat or fish at the supermarket after someone else had done the killing for them?
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