Sure Todd always, I still like the cloud frame...but the other is good too. I think the main point was to pull dark shadows a bit in middle of frame. I think the middle image in the second post has shadows pulled up and looks a unnatural. As a potential frame of reference I would look work at the work by Walker Evans for NSA and and then at the other end of the specturm "Time Wearing Out Memory: Schoharie County" by Susan Daley/Steve Gross. The latter example I think of unsuccessful processing...but it's instructive. These images in Daley/Gross...have so much contrast from image to image...it's just tiring to look at them. /Brandt