Topic: Sneak Peak "Dehaze" LR CC Feature (Read 31534 times)

rmyers · « **on:** May 27, 2015, 11:35:04 pm »

Interesting feature. Wonder when it will be added?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIJYL_AmqX0&feature=youtu.be

Lundberg02 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 28, 2015, 12:37:47 am »

PhotoLine 19 already has it.

Bart_van_der_Wolf · « **Reply #2 on:** May 28, 2015, 03:24:47 am »

Quote from: Lundberg02 on May 28, 2015, 12:37:47 am

PhotoLine 19 already has it.

Indeed, and Topaz Clarity has also been able to do that for 2 years already.

Cheers,
Bart

Hans Kruse · « **Reply #3 on:** May 28, 2015, 04:37:10 am »

When he says that it will be in LR CC I'm sure what is meant is that it will be in ACR with Photoshop CC and therefore it will come to LR CC....

Bart_van_der_Wolf · « **Reply #4 on:** May 28, 2015, 08:45:20 am »

Quote from: Hans Kruse on May 28, 2015, 04:37:10 am

When he says that it will be in LR CC I'm sure what is meant is that it will be in ACR with Photoshop CC and therefore it will come to LR CC....

Maybe he means that it will only be in Lightrroom CC and not in Lightroom 6? That's when the shit hits the fan, if true.

It's is also getting increasingly complicated for Adobe evangelists and employees to clearly communicate all these artificial divides....

Cheers
Bart

AlterEgo · « **Reply #5 on:** May 28, 2015, 09:46:07 am »

Quote from: BartvanderWolf on May 28, 2015, 08:45:20 am

clearly communicate all these artificial divides....

they run out of smoke & mirrors

ButchM · « **Reply #6 on:** May 28, 2015, 09:55:07 am »

Quote from: Hans Kruse on May 28, 2015, 04:37:10 am

When he says that it will be in LR CC I'm sure what is meant is that it will be in ACR with Photoshop CC and therefore it will come to LR CC....

Ironically, White didn't mention ACR at all. Though, since this new addition appears to be part of the Develop module, it would make sense that it is part of ACR as well.

Now that Adobe has made an official and technical distinction between Lr CC (subscription) and Lr 6 (perpetual) ... these new "features" can be delivered to CC apps whenever Adobe wishes to do so. Perpetual users will have to wait for these feature additions until the next full version cycle introduction.

jjj · « **Reply #7 on:** May 28, 2015, 10:16:56 am »

Quote from: AlterEgo on May 28, 2015, 09:46:07 am

they run out of smoke & mirrors

They dehazed the smoke.

digitaldog · « **Reply #8 on:** May 28, 2015, 10:21:34 am »

Quote from: BartvanderWolf on May 28, 2015, 03:24:47 am

Indeed, and Topaz Clarity has also been able to do that for 2 years already.

In a raw converter, on raw data?

digitaldog · « **Reply #9 on:** May 28, 2015, 10:24:12 am »

Quote from: BartvanderWolf on May 28, 2015, 08:45:20 am

Maybe he means that it will only be in Lightrroom CC and not in Lightroom 6? That's when the shit hits the fan, if true.

Why? It's been known from day one that LR6 will get NO NEW FEATURE but bug fixes and camera support. And LRCC like Photoshop CC will get new features as time rolls on.

pegelli · « **Reply #10 on:** May 28, 2015, 10:28:04 am »

Quote from: BartvanderWolf on May 28, 2015, 08:45:20 am

Maybe he means that it will only be in Lightrroom CC and not in Lightroom 6? That's when the shit hits the fan, if true.

I guess it will be in LR 6.X or maybe at the latest in LR7 (if we live to see one). We've been living without this tool since LR1 so don't think it's such a big deal if the subscribers get it some time before the perpetual license buyers.

ihv · « **Reply #11 on:** May 28, 2015, 11:23:20 am »

So there were not much features for a 2 years development time and suddenly we have a new CC feature within a month after the release?

davidgp · « **Reply #12 on:** May 28, 2015, 12:06:23 pm »

Quote from: ihv on May 28, 2015, 11:23:20 am

So there were not much features for a 2 years development time and suddenly we have a new CC feature within a month after the release?

It has happened in the past... for example some extra defringe tools that came with Lightroom 4.1 - https://luminous-landscape.com/lr4upd/

Probably this tools was already being developed for Lightroom 6/CC but it did not make the cut of stable features to be released for the established deadline. Or Adobe likes the idea of moving Lightroom to an incremental feature additions like they are doing with Photoshop CC and other apps.

David

Bart_van_der_Wolf · « **Reply #13 on:** May 28, 2015, 12:51:56 pm »

Quote from: digitaldog on May 28, 2015, 10:21:34 am

In a raw converter, on raw data?

Hi Andrew,

How would that make a difference to the resulting image?
Besides, LR applies these effects on demosaiced data, so no longer Raw.
It basically is just a local contrast adjustment, with a twist in the shape of a contrast mask.

Cheers,
Bart

digitaldog · « **Reply #14 on:** May 28, 2015, 01:01:44 pm »

Quote from: BartvanderWolf on May 28, 2015, 12:51:56 pm

How would that make a difference to the resulting image?
Besides, LR applies these effects on demosaiced data, so no longer Raw.
It basically is just a local contrast adjustment, with a twist in the shape of a contrast mask.

With that concept, one could/should simply set all the controls in a raw converter to default, render and move on in Photoshop?

ButchM · « **Reply #15 on:** May 28, 2015, 02:11:57 pm »

Quote from: digitaldog on May 28, 2015, 01:01:44 pm

With that concept, one could/should simply set all the controls in a raw converter to default, render and move on in Photoshop?

Or shoot jpeg.

Sometimes as important as the resulting image is how streamline and efficient the workflow proceeds.

To me, although there may not be "much difference" in the final image ... there is a huge difference in workflow, time and drive space consumed whenever any adjustment or modification can take place in the RAW image processing pipeline.

While I am a fan of various plugins, I will almost always opt for doing everything I can in the RAW workflow and utilize an external plugin only as a last resort when that which I desire to achieve can't be accomplished in my RAW pipeline. Over the course of a year, the time I save and the storage space I can preserve for more RAW files rather than a mountain of tiff or psd can be a significant savings in both time and money.

What is worthy of pointing out ... we have been able to control fog/haze/smog in Lr from it's first introduction ... it just took more time, patience and certainly more than one slider to get there. There really was/is no need for an external plugin.

digitaldog · « **Reply #16 on:** May 28, 2015, 02:15:59 pm »

Quote from: ButchM on May 28, 2015, 02:11:57 pm

Or shoot jpeg.
To me, although there may not be "much difference" in the final image ... there is a huge difference in workflow, time and drive space consumed whenever any adjustment or modification can take place in the RAW image processing pipeline.

Exactly!

Robert-Peter Westphal · « **Reply #17 on:** May 28, 2015, 02:18:50 pm »

I wonder how the workflow with Photoshop looks like if the features of Lr 6 are different from the one of Lr CC and ACR.

digitaldog · « **Reply #18 on:** May 28, 2015, 02:21:27 pm »

Quote from: Robert-Peter Westphal on May 28, 2015, 02:18:50 pm

I wonder how the workflow with Photoshop looks like if the features of Lr 6 are different from the one of Lr CC and ACR.

Without giving the NDA lawyers too much to get me in trouble, it's pretty obvious that LR/ACR will continue to stay on feature parity as we've seen in the past. Not doing so would hose workflows (Smart Objects, Edit in Photoshop etc).

ButchM · « **Reply #19 on:** May 28, 2015, 02:25:11 pm »

Quote from: Robert-Peter Westphal on May 28, 2015, 02:18:50 pm

I wonder how the workflow with Photoshop looks like if the features of Lr 6 are different from the one of Lr CC and ACR.

Probably the same way they handled the adjustment brush in the Gradient and Radial overlays ... ACR had them when ready ... Lr received it with v6.

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