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benInMA

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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2006, 04:30:04 pm »

Anyone have this book?

Photoshop LAB Color : The Canyon Conundrum and Other Adventures in the Most Powerful Colorspace (Paperback)
by Dan Margulis

Found a reference to it and it looks very interesting.

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Tim Gray

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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2006, 07:04:59 pm »

It's that book that made me make the statement in my earlier post regarding interger vs floating point.  I don't recall him ever discussing the difference fp might make over integer - and his technical addendum to chapter 6 talks extensively about the quantization error - I assume if LAB used fp he would have made that point.

My google search turned up several after market products that added fp functionality in one form or another - nothing suggested that LAB used anything else than integer.
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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2006, 09:22:11 pm »

I have the book too and I've read a good part of it. I don't think you'll find Dan Margulis agonizing over floating point math. He's far too practically-oriented for that. What I see in the book are arguments based on the logic of the processes and the comparative results you see in prints.
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2006, 09:18:31 am »

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the calculations are all done internally as floating point with no loss,
This is a fallacy; floating point (or fixed point, for that matter) calculations are not lossless*. There is no such thing as infinite precision in computing.

Integer calculations, on the other hand, are lossless as long as you don't go out of bounds.

* Not all floating point or fixed point calculations are lossy, though.
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