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 on: Today at 12:18:51 PM 
Started by torger - Last post by AlterEgo
But I explained already on another forum. You do not need dark patches in the target for profiling, instead you make a composite CGATS from 2 or more shots with different shutter speeds; and you scale the spectral reference accordingly.
yes, that was about the black patches in SG - but what if you have a target with darker patches different chromacity wise from lighter patches - then you can't use spectrum (measured with i1pro2) from lighter patches for those, right ? and not only then - w/o actually measuring properly (not possible with i1pro2) darker patches you even can't say that they are of the same chromacity as lighter patches even if manufacturer claims that ! catch22 - no ?

 52 
 on: Today at 12:16:25 PM 
Started by Hans Kruse - Last post by ButchM
I think people are holding on to their cameras now much longer and at least this is what I'm seeing. I don't believe that the drop in sales of new cameras correlates that well with the number of users of Lightroom (and equivalent products).

No, it has little to no impact on current number of users of Lightroom ... but it does directly correlate with the assertion of a "expanding amateur market" ...

The most recent market projections are not indicating continued growth in the advanced amateur RAW shooting sector.

 53 
 on: Today at 12:16:18 PM 
Started by torger - Last post by Iliah
But I explained already on another forum. You do not need dark patches in the target for profiling, instead you make a composite CGATS from 2 or more shots with different shutter speeds; and you scale the spectral reference accordingly.

 54 
 on: Today at 12:12:52 PM 
Started by torger - Last post by AlterEgo
Until one checks, how could he know if the effect is meaningful or not? I went to the trouble, and for me and my customers it is meaningful. So I shared my experience.
right - but you just said that most of us do not have a spectrophotometer capable to properly measure all of the target with dark patches (but you have such instruments or access to such instruments), so in that case for those who do not (and i1pro2 is not good) - how does black frame and saturated frame helps when we do not have a target properly measured in the first place ? so certainly while utmost precision is a subject of desire - am I to gain ?... personal testing is good (at least as an experience if nothing else), but I 'd love to hear opinions before testing (because it takes a lot of time and I do have a day job - so I have to consider the time) from those who did... so am I going to gain when I can't do better than i1pro2 with a target ?

 55 
 on: Today at 12:11:53 PM 
Started by Hans Kruse - Last post by Hans Kruse

In the past year or more, Canon and Nikon (as well as the industry as a whole) have seen significant drop in unit sales of cameras capable of capturing and recording RAW format images. The number of new users, amateur or otherwise seems to have peaked or are actually starting to decline. We are quickly reaching a point of market saturation and maturation of mid and top tier cameras. The technical improvements are not as huge relegating previous models obsolete upon introduction of the latest and greatest.


I think people are holding on to their cameras now much longer and at least this is what I'm seeing. I don't believe that the drop in sales of new cameras correlates that well with the number of users of Lightroom (and equivalent products).

 56 
 on: Today at 12:05:34 PM 
Started by Lundberg02 - Last post by aderickson
I downloaded and tried it. It plays nice with my Neat Image, Focus Magic and Nik plugins. The one question I have is how difficult (or possible) it will be to convert my actions, particularly my Fraser sharpening actions.

Allan

 57 
 on: Today at 12:05:23 PM 
Started by torger - Last post by Iliah
Well, I have no intention to interfere. Each of us do the things the way we see fit.

 58 
 on: Today at 12:04:14 PM 
Started by Hans Kruse - Last post by ButchM

I know exactly why resources are being used to focus onto the mobile platform...that is where the future revenue will come from. I manage products for a living. This would be a no brainer decision.

I know it is never in good taste or a wise decision to engage in a discussion with a self-proclaimed anonymous expert on the internet ... but I think you are missing the mark on two major points.

1. Recent sales over the past year of DSLR (and other RAW capable cameras) are declining ... not growing.

2. PC sales (the integral unit for a Lr Mobile environ) have been in decline for much longer.

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I was describing a niche usage of LR and in reality the vast majority of it's users don't need that functionality so I suggested if your workflow relies on this missing functionality, maybe they should look at other products that might provide it.

Wouldn't this advice also hold true for those folks who would like to see more mobile features in Lr. Shouldn't they look elsewhere to fulfill their needs? Why must Adobe ignore their traditional customer base in order to court a potential new group of customers who have no history of customer loyalty? Why must it be a zero sum game, an all or nothing approach?

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I'm also making the point that LR is NOT just targeted at professionals, but rather at the hugely much larger amateur market that is expanding. If you were managing LR, where would you aim your sites, at a small niche market or the vastly huge consumer market.

If that is your assessment, you are basing it upon statistics from the distant past, not the recent facts or the projections of the near future. So I'll expand on my earlier points.

In the past year or more, Canon and Nikon (as well as the industry as a whole) have seen significant drop in unit sales of cameras capable of capturing and recording RAW format images. The number of new users, amateur or otherwise seems to have peaked or are actually starting to decline. We are quickly reaching a point of market saturation and maturation of mid and top tier cameras. The technical improvements are not as huge relegating previous models obsolete upon introduction of the latest and greatest.

If you are referring to the amateur jpeg shooting crowd, there are already a myriad of much more cost effective options already on the market. In fact several are free and don't require the burden of a PC to create Smart Previews to bounce off a server thousands of miles away just to get an image from your smartphone to your tablet.

Now, add to that equation that desktop and laptop sales have faltered for nearly a decade now. HP is holding steady while all the other top computer makers are showing declining units sales YOY except for Apple which has shown steady growth over the same period in unit sales of desktop and laptop models.

I fully admit I don't "manage products" ... I've just been a self employed business man in the photography field full time since 1975. I've learned a few things about the business world and where to seek out information on trends as well over the years. When it comes to Lightroom ... I'm just one of them there consumers you keep referring to and you like to point out my concerns are "niche" and the money in my pockets, after supporting Adobe for over 23 years, is of less importance to the bean counters in San Jose than that of potential new users? While I can relate to the aspirations of attracting new customers to the fold, turning your back on the tried and true loyal customers with decades of historical record of offering financial support to the cause is a recipe for failure for any business, larger or small.

 59 
 on: Today at 11:52:32 AM 
Started by gdh - Last post by gdh
If you buy this Body + any of the lenses I have posted here, I will ship insured free to anywhere in continental USA

 60 
 on: Today at 11:50:43 AM 
Started by Jim Breeden - Last post by Jim Breeden
Soon to return to San Miguel de Allende. Solicit suggestions of your favorite photo sites both in and outside of SM? What a glorious place! Any camera supply (Nikon) shops in SM or Queretaro?

Also, would appreciate input on the 'Island of the Dolls' near Mexico City?

Jim

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