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 on: Today at 12:53:50 PM 
Started by Eigil Skovgaard - Last post by Manoli
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 on: Today at 12:45:58 PM 
Started by JV - Last post by Zorki5
There are two often-quoted sets of numbers on the state of the camera market, and they measure different things. The CIPA numbers ...

When I saw the size of your post, I didn't think I'd read all of it... but I ended up doing just that, and have no regrets :)

Nice write-up, thank you.

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 on: Today at 12:28:59 PM 
Started by JV - Last post by Zorki5
It is the bulk of a complete working camera with a lens that matters to most people and in most cases, with a zoom lens. 

OK, fair enough.

Here they are with comparable lenses. 14-42 vs 18-55 (if anything, Sony even has slight edge, with some 3mm less on the short end, and better DOF control with same aperture values).

Panasonic measures 60.6 x 63.6, Sony 62 x 60 mm.

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 on: Today at 12:19:18 PM 
Started by shadowblade - Last post by luxborealis
Spectacular, especially the full view.

Any chance of slightly decreasing the red of the snow and mountains. Real or not, the red certainly makes it more dramatic and other-worldly, but, I'm not convinced it adds anything to the photo.

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 on: Today at 12:06:55 PM 
Started by KMRennie - Last post by Slobodan Blagojevic
Old issue, thumbnails are not color managed. Though, on my iPad right now, they do look the same.

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 on: Today at 12:03:50 PM 
Started by wing1 - Last post by Paul2660
What also has to be considered, is the law of diminishing returns.  Phase One, to their credit saw this chip coming over a year ago.  Did they push for a technical camera favorable design, or a chip with great DR and low noise.  No one will know but a few. 

Phase One has been slowly working up their lens lineup, with the 35LS, they have a winner as with most of the blue label glass.  These lenses can work with the new sensor, and work with the older CCD chips.  Phase has a good line up of glass and again to their credit, with the XF body and the vibration reduction setting they have done a very good job.  It's not VR in the lens, or on the chip, but something different, but it works and works well.  Schneider may have seen the writing on the wall, and tossed in their cards on tech lenses.  But they are still right in the mix as all the new glass from Phase One is designed in partnership with Schneider, albeit, made in Japan probably in the old Mamiya plant? Still Schneider is showing their abilities for sure with the lenses they are producing for Phase One.

If I was on the board at Phase One, I would be pretty happy right now.  The market I am going after is pretty limited anyway, and I can offer it a full range of products. 

There was a period of 3 years where Sony and Phase I am sure had a lot of conversations on the other side, the Tech Camera. 

But Phase and Sony had a lot less control on that piece.  You have a small spattering of companies making the equipment, Arca, Cambo, Alpa, Linholf and Rodenstock and Schneider.  Phase One can't control much if any of this, and when you consider the total number of digital backs sold (new or as upgrades) world wide, I can't see it being more than 20K if that.  More Nikon and Canon Pro DSLR's and now Sony cameras are sold in a month than this or maybe in a week.  Many photographers have moved to the Sony A7rII and adapters that allow the Canon shift lenses to work or solutions like the Universalis Arca or Cambo Aptus.  Both give the use of the tech glass in a very price affordable package, (but not much wide support).

I have to believe based on the results of the 100MP chip that Sony and Phase did the best they could within the technology available today.  And Phase One has done a lot of work on the LCC to go along with the camera.  Just look at any of the test shots on the market now, where movement was involved and you can judge for yourself just how much work is going on under the covers to get that amount of red cast out.

Will Rodenstock come out with a new lineup? Anyone's guess.  They probably make a lot more in the eye glasses market then camera glass.  It's all about the bottom line.  Copal is gone,  the supply will dry up soon.  The 32mm HR-w has already reached a point where the mass of glass in front of the copal is too much (very delicate and easy to mis align the shutter even Rodenstock has pointed this out). So will new glass be any lighter? I can't see that happening, but of course maybe e shutter will finally be out there. 

Others on the forum talk about creations of sensors like they are just something that can be made in a few weeks, from start to finish, without the factor of figuring out the recovery of that R&D in sales.  This market is very small and sadly getting smaller and the technology is surrounding it from all sides putting  a lot of pressure on the few companies that continue to product the products. 

Phase One, now really has 2 products, the 50MP and 100MP CMOS, sure there will be sales of the 80MP, 60MP 40MP CCD backs, but you have to wonder how many of them will be new and or  upgrades vs used/certified used sales.  Will Phase come out with a 75MP or 60MP CMOS designed for tech cameras? Hard to say when Canon and Sony are at 42MP and 50MP right now, and a lot of people already don't see any difference in the output from the cameras. 

The only possible mistake I have seen is where Phase One priced their 50MP back.  I believe that a more reasonable price point could have really lead to a market share growth for them. But they have their own ideas on where they want this back to go.  It would be interesting to see sales figures for IQ150 vs Hasselblad 50c, personally I don't believe the IQ150 had many sales, even Adobe was un aware of it until myself and a few other folks pushed for months to have it added to LR camera raw support.

It will be interesting to see what happens as the year rolls on.

Paul C

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 on: Today at 12:01:08 PM 
Started by rick_k - Last post by sjphotos
I have it set to auto and print a lot of B&W and cannot detect any gloss differential whatsoever.  Printing on Canson Platine and Museo Silver Rag.

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 on: Today at 11:51:15 AM 
Started by Eigil Skovgaard - Last post by Slobodan Blagojevic
... Somebody should update FAQ...

They just did.

So, if you don't see Jeff posting in the next 24 hours, he's been banned for a day  ;)

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 on: Today at 11:40:21 AM 
Started by Mark Lindquist - Last post by shadowblade
Looks like they will continue to support Z series printers but not sure for how long.. hope below link helps,

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/large-format-printers/designjet-printers/support-services.html

Adeel

I'd be hesitant to buy a Z3200 printer at the moment. They're great printers - very reliable and with a fantastic inkset - but who knows how much longer they'll be supported?

Canon's iPF6300/6400/6450 are a good alternative - also very reliable, and the Lucia EX inkset exceeds the colour gamut of the HP while equalling it for longevity on many media. You can pick up 6300s and 8300s cheaply second-hand now, and they use the same inkset and print at the same resolution with the same image quality as the newer 6400/6450/8400.

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 on: Today at 11:38:39 AM 
Started by shadowblade - Last post by aaronchan
How's the output from the Dursts? There's only one Rho P10 printer in Australia, and I'm not sure it runs the orange, violet or green inks (in addition to CMYK).

Send an email to swissQprint to see if there is any printer in use in your continent.
Otherwise, Colorsix from Hong Kong has a SwissQ UV printer.
But I'm not sure how many color are they using, but with their background, I assuming they are at least using 6 (CMYKLcLm) with it.

aaron

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