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Equipment & Techniques => Cameras, Lenses and Shooting gear => Topic started by: Piece on December 17, 2005, 10:20:24 pm

Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: Piece on December 17, 2005, 10:20:24 pm
We're talking a Canon back.  This is what I plan on getting as my first group of lenses.  Any suggestions on what I should get instead of or after these lenses would be appreciated.

24-70mm f/2.8 L
70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM
85mm f/1.2L  

P.S. I don't want the 85mm f/1.8
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: Sheldon N on December 18, 2005, 12:29:40 am
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We're talking a Canon back.  This is what I plan on getting as my first group of lenses.  Any suggestions on what I should get instead of or after these lenses would be appreciated.

24-70mm f/2.8 L
70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM
85mm f/1.2L 

P.S. I don't want the 85mm f/1.8
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16-35mm f/2.8 L
35mm f/1.4 L
50mm f/1.4 for good measure, and
Long telephoto L primes if needed...
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: francois on December 18, 2005, 04:23:13 am
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We're talking a Canon back.  This is what I plan on getting as my first group of lenses.  Any suggestions on what I should get instead of or after these lenses would be appreciated.

24-70mm f/2.8 L
70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM
85mm f/1.2L 

P.S. I don't want the 85mm f/1.8
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What body do you plan to use? If you're not using a FF body, a 16-35 or 17-40 may prove useful.
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: Julian Love on December 18, 2005, 06:04:43 pm
I'm not a photojournalist, but my understanding is that they typically use two bodies, with a 16-35 welded to one and a 70-200 welded to the other. That way they're pretty much ready for anything.

I would expect the 24-70 to be a popular choice except that most use a 1.3x body for the higher framerate, so need the wider zoom.
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: Piece on December 18, 2005, 09:32:54 pm
1D mk II body so yea 1.3x frame.  70-200mm is not a question, I'm getting it.  primse are good, it's just i do a lot of sports so i need the versatility of a zoom lense.  i love primes but they'll come later.  why such wide angles?  I thought coverage would be useful.  Should i go that wide?  I thought i'd need telephoto. agh.
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: eatstickyrice on December 18, 2005, 11:55:13 pm
You know, I've found that the 70-200 2.8 L IS is my most used lens. Being that you know you want the 70-200, I'd like to suggest that you purchase the 70-200 first, do a few shoots and then expand your lens kit. That's likely to give you a better idea if you need the 16-35/17-40, 24-70/24-105 or one of the prime telephotos. It's hard to say what you'll find, but you may decide that the 70-200 is so wonderful that you don't need other lenses. Then you could invest your money in other fun stuff like an epson p-4000 or something like that.


Thoughts,
Rick
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: macgyver on December 19, 2005, 12:28:09 am
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primse are good, it's just i do a lot of sports so i need the versatility of a zoom lense. [a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=53871\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


You will need longer than 200mm for sports, but the 70-200 is about as perfect a general use sports lens as there is.
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: DiaAzul on December 19, 2005, 04:00:24 am
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We're talking a Canon back.  This is what I plan on getting as my first group of lenses.  Any suggestions on what I should get instead of or after these lenses would be appreciated.

24-70mm f/2.8 L
70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM
85mm f/1.2L 

P.S. I don't want the 85mm f/1.8
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Standard photojournalist setup is:
16-35mm/f2.8
24-70/f2.8
70-200/f2.8
1.4x 2x teleconverters
2 x 1DII bodies
2 x 550/580 flash

plus specialist lenses dependent upon need
I also quite often see 14mm lens for extreme close ups
Sports 500mm lens
Indoor: wide aperture primes.
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: Piece on December 19, 2005, 03:29:22 pm
i'm looking for the 3 most useful lenses....i need them versatile cause it'll be awhile before i get more.  awhile being about a year.  i figured the 85mm f/1.2 would be nice for low light.   i know it's slow.
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: DiaAzul on December 19, 2005, 06:01:13 pm
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i'm looking for the 3 most useful lenses....i need them versatile cause it'll be awhile before i get more.  awhile being about a year.  i figured the 85mm f/1.2 would be nice for low light.   i know it's slow.
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It also has no depth of field - your three best lenses are the zooms at f/2.8 (this is the minimum you are going to get away with for depth of field unless you are far away and crop the image to fill the frame). Push up the ISO if you are in a light limited situation.
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: macgyver on December 19, 2005, 09:49:47 pm
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It also has no depth of field - your three best lenses are the zooms at f/2.8 (this is the minimum you are going to get away with for depth of field unless you are far away and crop the image to fill the frame). Push up the ISO if you are in a light limited situation.
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Little DoF or not, the fast lenes are invaluable.  I've wanted a 1.2 for a while, that would be a great lens.  Sometimes, you have to live with the limitations to get the shot.
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: Piece on December 20, 2005, 09:51:24 pm
sorry, I'm not buying slow lenses.  it's invaluable in low light, hand held situations.
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: Peter Jon White on December 20, 2005, 10:33:49 pm
For best IQ and speed, the 35L and the 50 f/1.4
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: dot-borg on December 27, 2005, 02:50:51 am
I heard a rumor that Canon will announce an EF 50mm f/1.2L in February. It seems to me that would be a pretty valuable lens, from a photojournalism perspective, if it's true.

Of course it's just a rumor.
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: Yakim Peled on December 27, 2005, 03:48:47 am
>> i'm looking for the 3 most useful lenses....

I think that the 16-35 would be more useful than the 85/1.2.
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: macgyver on December 27, 2005, 10:14:09 pm
Agreed, especially if your form is good.
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: Piece on December 28, 2005, 09:53:57 pm
I'm thinking about swapping the 85mm f/1.2 out for a 50mm f/1.4 (or the 1.2 if it comes out in february).   Saves me money and lets me look at other lenses (like a wide angle).  

Any suggestions on wide angle primes?
Title: Lense set up for Photojournalist
Post by: Yakim Peled on December 29, 2005, 02:17:22 am
In which focal length?

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