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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: david distefano on August 20, 2014, 08:36:48 pm
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with pentax and hasselblad already introducing their "budget" mfdback/camera and nikon and other full frame dslr companies introducing or having their new products already leaked to the press, what, if any surprises in the medium format world are there, for the upcoming photokina, which is less than a month away.
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with pentax and hasselblad already introducing their "budget" mfdback/camera and nikon and other full frame dslr companies introducing or having their new products already leaked to the press, what, if any surprises in the medium format world are there, for the upcoming photokina, which is less than a month away.
Best case scenario:
PhaseOne finally introduces a new Medium Format SLR AF body to finally put to rest the Mamiya 645 based body, fully functional and ready to ship. (which is not horrible but the IQ backs deserve something better, so do the lenses :D)
Leica introduces a new version of the Leica S with the 50 mp Sony sensor and improved features (high quality live view!), speed etc, again, fully functional and ready to ship. Also they will have on hand the 100mm f2 lens for the Leica S.
Hasselblad incorporates Live View via firmware into their 50c backs / cameras. Lowers prices across the board.
Canon introduces a new full frame DSLR (5D sized body but 1D class build and feel) with a new sensor with Nikon D810 rivalling dynamic range, resolution and great high iso performance and speed.
Likely Scenario:
PhaseOne shows a prototype of a new MF SLR or a ready to ship worked over DF++.
Leica just has the 100mm f2 lens on hand and maybe a new Leica S (50mp cmos) but without live view.
Hasselblad has just what they have now.
Canon introduces a worked over APS-C camera (7D (II) maybe?) with a slightly improved sensor (no where near the DR of the sony/nikon sensor) with great video and a few printers.
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Well the multi shot 50mp CMOS Hassleblad has been announced early. I guess it's a big thing if you are a Hassleblad dealer ::)
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Best case scenario:
PhaseOne finally introduces a new Medium Format SLR AF body to finally put to rest the Mamiya 645 based body, fully functional and ready to ship. (which is not horrible but the IQ backs deserve something better, so do the lenses :D)
Leica introduces a new version of the Leica S with the 50 mp Sony sensor and improved features (high quality live view!), speed etc, again, fully functional and ready to ship. Also they will have on hand the 100mm f2 lens for the Leica S.
Hasselblad incorporates Live View via firmware into their 50c backs / cameras. Lowers prices across the board.
Canon introduces a new full frame DSLR (5D sized body but 1D class build and feel) with a new sensor with Nikon D810 rivalling dynamic range, resolution and great high iso performance and speed.
Likely Scenario:
PhaseOne shows a prototype of a new MF SLR or a ready to ship worked over DF++.
Leica just has the 100mm f2 lens on hand and maybe a new Leica S (50mp cmos) but without live view.
Hasselblad has just what they have now.
Canon introduces a worked over APS-C camera (7D (II) maybe?) with a slightly improved sensor (no where near the DR of the sony/nikon sensor) with great video and a few printers.
Since I have some form of product in every brand mentioned except Hasselblad I'd personally like to see.
Leica introduce the cmos sensor camera with a form of cropped video (well implemeted) and cough, choke, under the $25,000 mark, somewhere at $15k or less. (probably won't happen) . . . and or an autofocus M series with excellent video. I think for Leica to increase the S series sales they're going to have to get to a lower price point.
Sony a full frame professional body with excellent in camera 4k video that auto crops to aps c and will allow track focus in stills and video . . .
though the one brand that will get my cash tomorrow would be a 7d with 70d type of sensor (autofocus video) and full functionality like hdmi out without knocking out the on camera screen. mini xlr inputs for sound and better highlight recovery.
Adobe with video lightroom with autotrackin and layers, batch processing and full xml support.
Blackmagic slightly slightly larger than the pocket with a super 35mm sensor, ef lens mount and excellent track focus and a still fuction because the black magic produces the sharpest of all video cameras.
All cameras listed with olympus grade image stabilization in camera and great preamp for sound.
Oh yes . . . and every camera a better, standard lithium battery.
Oh yes 2. Apple either sell or develop 64 bit, 4k capable fcp8.
IMO
BC
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Canon - slightly overdue replacement for 1DsIII.
Nikon - 135 f2 lens.
Peace on earth. ;)
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Nikon - 135 f2 lens.
Nikon already has a 135mm f/2 DC Nikkor, has been in production since 1990... Great lens, by the way...
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My guess and it is a guess.
Nikon D750 as we have seen the rumors already. Maybe just maybe some updated PC lenses
Sony should be big A99II , 36mpx FF sensor with the same new AF that's in the new A77II which I have and the AF is outstanding and frankly I think the best in the business right now.
FE lenses 16-35, 85 1.8 and 24 f2
ZA lenses a new 35 1.4, new 85 1.4 and 135 1.8 with SSM focusing
Be nice to see a updated A7r version II with EFC
Canon I'm not counting on much but maybe a new APS body.
Phase the new body finally is introduced and new software
Leica S new CMOS sensor body with video
Hassy maybe a A7r type thingy. Cost probably don't want to even know it. LOL
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I hope pretty much nothing new is presented.
I'm quite happy with what I got, and I hope nothing new comes that makes me desire an upgrade I don't really need. This means that for me worst case is if Canon would actually show up with a high res DSLR with Sony class base ISO ;)
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I hope pretty much nothing new is presented.
I'm quite happy with what I got, and I hope nothing new comes that makes me desire an upgrade I don't really need. This means that for me worst case is if Canon would actually show up with a high res DSLR with Sony class base ISO ;)
+1 :)
Paul
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How about an update to the Canon ipf8400?
Steven
http://www.friedmanphoto.com (http://www.friedmanphoto.com)
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Wow, Leica just announced the M-P digital. That was unexpected. Supposedly it has a new 24mp sensor. Well see.
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New sensor or new name?
Dunno. This is what leica wrote:
"Exceptional image sharpness and the finest rendition of details. The Leica M-P is equipped with a 24 megapixel, high-resolution, full-frame (24x36 mm), CMOS sensor – the Leica MAX 24 MP. In combination with the high-performance Leica Maestro image processor, this ensures outstanding pictures with every exposure. A further benefit is extremely low image noise – a factor that makes the Leica M-P ideal for available light photography."
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steve and/or doug, there must be something that you could tell to wet the whistle. maybe a "budget" back to compete with hasselblad and pentax?
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steve and/or doug, there must be something that you could tell to wet the whistle. maybe a "budget" back to compete with hasselblad and pentax?
I don't see Hasselblad as "budget". I think Pentax is too low budget to attract Phase One (at this point in time anyway), but most of the Pentax damage I think will come from users who would never buy in the Phase One premium price range anyway.
At any rate - Hasselblad has already seemed to pre-announce.
Phase One/Leaf have kept a very low profile for pre-Photokina in recent years.
At this point, I can honestly tell you that I don't know if Phase One will announce a new camera or not (I do not expect any digital back announcements from Phase One). It is my hope that Phase One does announce a brand new camera - even if it is further out from delivery than they are accustomed to - because I feel users need a signal to determine their direction. In many cases digital backs and cameras are linked together in terms of purchasing time frame because when bundled there's a significant price advantage vs buying a stand alone camera later on.
I'm looking forward to news from Alpa, Arca Swiss, Cambo, Schneider & Rodenstock! There are some great digital back sensors and models available today, let's see some new and improved toys for enhancing their usability.
Steve Hendrix
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quote author=Steve Hendrix link=topic=92751.msg754920#msg754920 date=1408655845]
I don't see Hasselblad as "budget".
Steve Hendrix
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the quotes around budget signified a little tongue in cheek. it is the lowest priced mfdb with the cmos sensor that can attach to a tech camera i believe, hence the word budget. you can buy about 4 nikon d810's for the price of the cfv-50c so budget is a relative term. with camera sales as a whole in the doldrums what exciting things do people think would reignite sales in either mf or ff.
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There were some wristwatches released recently that had a piece of the wright brothers first aeroplane embedded in the watch, it would be great for some special edition hasselblads or leicas with bits of moon dust, military dictators uniforms, Marilyn Monroes brassiere, Ansel Adams wooden tripod etc etc somehow incorporated into the camera.
That and a new canon 45 TS-e
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what exciting things do people think would reignite sales in either mf or ff.
"Reignite?"
Sales for Phase One are up year over year, for every year since the 2008 recession.
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quote author=Steve Hendrix link=topic=92751.msg754920#msg754920 date=1408655845]
I don't see Hasselblad as "budget".
Steve Hendrix
Capture Integration
the quotes around budget signified a little tongue in cheek. it is the lowest priced mfdb with the cmos sensor that can attach to a tech camera i believe, hence the word budget. you can buy about 4 nikon d810's for the price of the cfv-50c so budget is a relative term. with camera sales as a whole in the doldrums what exciting things do people think would reignite sales in either mf or ff.
Additionally to the (IMO correct) above... I believe that the real "star" for pros (and more) in photokina will be the Cambo Actus... This "jem" accompanied by Sony A7/R/S, will give to many pros (and more) the ability to work around expensive solutions that would include MFDBs and view camera with digital lenses, yet retaining the vast majority of the creativity and perhaps even improve on productivity. It may be cruel, but I expect some serious further decline in MFDB sales because of it and perhaps prices to be forced down to more "sensible" levels.
Especially if 35mm lenses of wider image circle (like the Samyang 24mm f3.5 P/C or the old 28&35 P/C Nikkors) prove to provide "real" WA solutions (just a thought-it remains to be tested), I expect to hear many "what the Hey" by users of Hi-end equipment...
I also expect the Actus to have a much wider appeal to imaging than many (even the more optimistic ones) consider... I expect the Actus to be really successful among serious videographers and filmmakers... 8)
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Additionally to the (IMO correct) above... I believe that the real "star" for pros (and more) in photokina will be the Cambo Actus... This "jem" accompanied by Sony A7/R/S, will give to many pros (and more) the ability to work around expensive solutions that would include MFDBs and view camera with digital lenses, yet retaining the vast majority of the creativity and perhaps even improve on productivity. It may be cruel, but I expect some serious further decline in MFDB sales because of it and perhaps prices to be forced down to more "sensible" levels.
Especially if 35mm lenses of wider image circle (like the Samyang 24mm f3.5 P/C or the old 28&35 P/C Nikkors) prove to provide "real" WA solutions (just a thought-it remains to be tested), I expect to hear many "what the Hey" by users of Hi-end equipment...
I also expect the Actus to have a much wider appeal to imaging than many (even the more optimistic ones) consider... I expect the Actus to be really successful among serious videographers and filmmakers... 8)
Its great to have options. But for the few of us who want / need a robust tethering (or wifi) solution for client supervised work the choices are limited to basically PhaseOne and Hasselblad. Combined with CaptureOne and Capture Pilot the IQ backs are just the best in the business for tethered and client supervised work. Hasselblad would be second and a distant third would be Leica. The Cable for the Leica S/S2 is very very nice but the software is not there in the same league as C1pro/C-pilot.
For those of you who work mostly by yourselves then those things matter MUCH less and you can assemble up a frankencamera and as long as you produce the results no one would care if the workflow is not as smooth or fast and everything takes a bit more work. No one would see that! Most of us work with limited budgets so we make do with what we can afford even so there are more options today than ever which is awesome. A lot of people though that MF Digital was going to die but I see it thriving. Hopefully there are some more exciting new MF digital products released this coming Photokina to build on an already extensive offering.
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I'd like a 6mp FF affordable back for my SWC...$2500 - $3000 range.
A Leica knockoff from a Japanese maker 24mp to 28mp would be fine for $3000.
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the quotes around budget signified a little tongue in cheek. it is the lowest priced mfdb with the cmos sensor that can attach to a tech camera i believe, hence the word budget. you can buy about 4 nikon d810's for the price of the cfv-50c so budget is a relative term. with camera sales as a whole in the doldrums what exciting things do people think would reignite sales in either mf or ff.
I used quotes on the term budget because I was quoting you, not for any tongue in cheek implications. And I do specifically see the Pentax as a budget-friedly consideration, but other than the CFV-50c, which will have a limited audience, I do not see Hasselblad as a budget-friendly manufacturer with their other products (well, relatively, depends on the size of your budget, of course!), any more than I do Phase One or Leaf.
Steve Hendrix
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Its great to have options. But for the few of us who want / need a robust tethering (or wifi) solution for client supervised work the choices are limited to basically PhaseOne and Hasselblad. Combined with CaptureOne and Capture Pilot the IQ backs are just the best in the business for tethered and client supervised work. Hasselblad would be second and a distant third would be Leica. The Cable for the Leica S/S2 is very very nice but the software is not there in the same league as C1pro/C-pilot.
For those of you who work mostly by yourselves then those things matter MUCH less and you can assemble up a frankencamera and as long as you produce the results no one would care if the workflow is not as smooth or fast and everything takes a bit more work. No one would see that! Most of us work with limited budgets so we make do with what we can afford even so there are more options today than ever which is awesome. A lot of people though that MF Digital was going to die but I see it thriving. Hopefully there are some more exciting new MF digital products released this coming Photokina to build on an already extensive offering.
I don't see where the "vast majority" I said contradicts with your position... OTOH, is there a problem to use the Sony workflow with C1pro/C-pilot? Please excuse my ignorance if there is a problem, but since my work is mostly multishot dependent, it's "flexcolor" that is my every day "friend", so C1 is a rare choice for single shot work done with the D800E...
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"Reignite?"
Sales for Phase One are up year over year, for every year since the 2008 recession.
that's great for phase one but phase one is not the whole photo industry, which is in the pits. just look at canon and nikon financials and the drop in unit sales of cameras as a whole. phase one, as any company that produces a product, must get new customers and if the vast majority are only shooting with smart phones and ipad's, the area for further growth is limited. not taking anything away from phase one but i don't think that even phase one can live on their existing customer base to increase sales but i could be wrong. the industry as a whole needs a jolt. my original question was, taking the photo industry as a whole, what do experienced photographers think would bring back the bling in ff and mf photography.
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that's great for phase one but phase one is not the whole photo industry, which is in the pits. just look at canon and nikon financials and the drop in unit sales of cameras as a whole. phase one, as any company that produces a product, must get new customers and if the vast majority are only shooting with smart phones and ipad's, the area for further growth is limited. not taking anything away from phase one but i don't think that even phase one can live on their existing customer base to increase sales but i could be wrong. the industry as a whole needs a jolt. my original question was, taking the photo industry as a whole, what do experienced photographers think would bring back the bling in ff and mf photography.
I believe camera makers have removed the sense of urgency for users to upgrade by creating products capable of very good to amazing image quality and advanced capability. Compared with 5 or 10 years ago, the average digital camera of today or even from 2-3 years ago (whether it is a $2,000 Canon or a $40,000 Phase One) is so capable that the urge to look for the "next great thing" is not near the level of the past. That doesn't keep us from wanting to see the next great thing, but whether we buy it or not is another matter. For many, while the desire may be there, the need is not as great. That is why camera sales in general, are not on the upswing. Want to reignite camera sales? Stop making such good ones.
Steve Hendrix
Capture Integration
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I believe camera makers have removed the sense of urgency for users to upgrade by creating products capable of very good to amazing image quality and advanced capability. Compared with 5 or 10 years ago, the average digital camera of today or even from 2-3 years ago (whether it is a $2,000 Canon or a $40,000 Phase One) is so capable that the urge to look for the "next great thing" is not near the level of the past. That doesn't keep us from wanting to see the next great thing, but whether we buy it or not is another matter. For many, while the desire may be there, the need is not as great. That is why camera sales in general, are not on the upswing. Want to reignite camera sales? Stop making such good ones.
Steve Hendrix
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touche. your last line says it all. but steve, maybe i'm a little pessimistic, but in the old days you had your 35mm film camera. the photographer, if the bug really bit him/her would upgrade to medium or large format to create better images, which i did up to 8x20. today it is very difficult to follow the same route. i would love to purchase an iq280 but like many people income has not kept up with the cost of living. for example my wife and i (we are teachers) have seen our income since 2000 increase by 50% but using john williams shadow statistics on inflation, combined, we have lost over 70k in purchasing power. our income would have had to double to have the same purchasing power of the year 2000. where in 2000 an iq280 would have been about 25k today it is over 40k. that 2000 price would have been easier on the finances then it would be today. yes i know i could purchase used equipment like the p45 but when i upgraded from 35mm to hasselblad to sinar, etc. i was able to purchase new equipment. when i shot the sinar 8x10 i knew that the image, if done right, would be the best that could be produced. today unless i win the lotto i know that i can never produce the very best. that does not stop me from creating images and making each shot the best that i can do with the equipment i have. i guess that's life in the big city.
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I hope pretty much nothing new is presented.
I'm quite happy with what I got, and I hope nothing new comes that makes me desire an upgrade I don't really need. This means that for me worst case is if Canon would actually show up with a high res DSLR with Sony class base ISO ;)
Quality.
Love it.
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I believe camera makers have removed the sense of urgency for users to upgrade by creating products capable of very good to amazing image quality and advanced capability. Compared with 5 or 10 years ago, the average digital camera of today or even from 2-3 years ago (whether it is a $2,000 Canon or a $40,000 Phase One) is so capable that the urge to look for the "next great thing" is not near the level of the past. That doesn't keep us from wanting to see the next great thing, but whether we buy it or not is another matter. For many, while the desire may be there, the need is not as great. That is why camera sales in general, are not on the upswing. Want to reignite camera sales? Stop making such good ones.
Well said.
IMHO, there's plenty of room for improvement in lenses and AF even if the sensors are as good as we really need.
That said, I went through some shots taken on a V series Blad with a Phase P25 back in 2005 and they're still very good.
Maybe lacking a little dynamic range compared to the D800, but very impressive all these years later.
If they bring out a camera under 15K I'm buying the hell out of it ! ;D
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I believe camera makers have removed the sense of urgency for users to upgrade by creating products capable of very good to amazing image quality and advanced capability. Compared with 5 or 10 years ago, the average digital camera of today or even from 2-3 years ago (whether it is a $2,000 Canon or a $40,000 Phase One) is so capable that the urge to look for the "next great thing" is not near the level of the past. That doesn't keep us from wanting to see the next great thing, but whether we buy it or not is another matter. For many, while the desire may be there, the need is not as great. That is why camera sales in general, are not on the upswing. Want to reignite camera sales? Stop making such good ones.
Steve Hendrix
Capture Integration
Bingo!
The innovation and development breakthrough curve has flattened. What we see mostly with new products now are slight improvements / refinements of previous products. Not necessarily a bad thing.
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The MS versions of Hasselblad H5-D50c (50MS & 200MS) will also be present at photokina... :) The cameras are already on sale from Hasselblad but I can't find any info on their LV ability... ??? ...now, where is Steven Hendrix? ::)
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The MS versions of Hasselblad H5-D50c (50MS & 200MS) will also be present at photokina... :) The cameras are already on sale from Hasselblad but I can't find any info on their LV ability... ??? ...now, where is Steven Hendrix? ::)
You need to say his name three times ... :)
But once he appears your bank account will mysteriously empty :D
Edmund
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You need to say his name three times ... :)
But once he appears your bank account will mysteriously empty :D
Edmund
Of all the people/companies I buy from around the world, nobody saves me more money than Steve.
Actually Steve just lays out the facts, never pushes you one way or the other and when it comes time to decide, usually agrees with the direction of more savings.
The only complaint I have with Steve is his company doesn't sell everything I use, because if he did he'd get all of our business . . . period.
(and no I don't get any special deals, because afaik Steve works with everyone in the same manner).
IMO
BC
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Of all the people/companies I buy from around the world, nobody saves me more money than Steve.
Actually Steve just lays out the facts, never pushes you one way or the other and when it comes time to decide, usually agrees with the direction of more savings.
The only complaint I have with Steve is his company doesn't sell everything I use, because if he did he'd get all of our business . . . period.
(and no I don't get any special deals, because afaik Steve works with everyone in the same manner).
IMO
BC
You still have to call his name ...three times!!! ;D Unless if you can comment about how good LV is with the new MS backs instead of him... :-\
EDIT: Steve, Steve, Steeeeve!
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The two things I'd like to see are
1.) Medium format mirrorless with interchangeable lenses. I think this is more likely to be from Sony, Fuji or Nikon (I only mention Nikon because they seem to have had a prototype floating around some years ago - nothing about their recent behavior suggests they'll release something innovative like this) than a classic MF maker.
2.) Some innovation in printers. The best selling fine art printer today is the 5 year old Epson 3880, and the most recent printers released are the iPF x300 series from 2010 (the x400 series are a very minor revision!). I'd love to see a 24 inch printer in a more compact form factor (don't laugh, the old DesignJet 130 was no larger than a 3880, although a different shape) designed for individual photographers rather than print shops. I'd also like to see a 3880 type 17 inch printer with a more modern inkset (yes, there's the 4900, but it is as bulky as a 7900 - some dimensions are actually larger). Even the best current inksets can't quite keep up with the full gamut of the best sensors we have today (various MF sensors and the D800(e)/D810/A7r sensor), so there is some room for a still further improved inkset beyond the current Epson/Canon generation. It would be nice to have more choice in roll/sheet hybrid printers, beyond only the 4900 - many photographers (myself included) do greeting cards or small prints as well as larger art prints.
Dan
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The one thing we are really getting is better compacts. Nobody is noticing it here, but the latest Sony, Lumix etc are really good. Not cheap, but good.
Edmund
The two things I'd like to see are
1.) Medium format mirrorless with interchangeable lenses. I think this is more likely to be from Sony, Fuji or Nikon (I only mention Nikon because they seem to have had a prototype floating around some years ago - nothing about their recent behavior suggests they'll release something innovative like this) than a classic MF maker.
2.) Some innovation in printers. The best selling fine art printer today is the 5 year old Epson 3880, and the most recent printers released are the iPF x300 series from 2010 (the x400 series are a very minor revision!). I'd love to see a 24 inch printer in a more compact form factor (don't laugh, the old DesignJet 130 was no larger than a 3880, although a different shape) designed for individual photographers rather than print shops. I'd also like to see a 3880 type 17 inch printer with a more modern inkset (yes, there's the 4900, but it is as bulky as a 7900 - some dimensions are actually larger). Even the best current inksets can't quite keep up with the full gamut of the best sensors we have today (various MF sensors and the D800(e)/D810/A7r sensor), so there is some room for a still further improved inkset beyond the current Epson/Canon generation. It would be nice to have more choice in roll/sheet hybrid printers, beyond only the 4900 - many photographers (myself included) do greeting cards or small prints as well as larger art prints.
Dan
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Leica, who bought Sinar a year ago, will certainly introduce something new in the integration of both systems. Something other than just a device for carrying S2 instead of a digital back.
PdF
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You still have to call his name ...three times!!! ;D Unless if you can comment about how good LV is with the new MS backs instead of him... :-\
EDIT: Steve, Steve, Steeeeve!
Sorry, I was a little busy today (see attachment). I took an IQ280, Alpa STC, and Rodenstock 40HR home with me this weekend to hopefully take some recreational photographs, which I haven't had time for in a good while. But I forgot about my scheduled visit to see the Grandkids. But this gave me an opportunity to try a portrait with the STC/40HR, which I've been wanting to do for a while, so I photographed this painter in his studio.
As far as LV goes, haven't see it yet - I hope it's a lot better (it should be) because live view for focus/composition is a critical app for repro work.
Edmund, your wallet remark was funny - and BC thanks for the nice words.
Now, you guys all know that Photokina is only about 3 weeks away, can't you wait? ;)
Steve Hendrix
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Sorry, I was a little busy today (see attachment). I took an IQ280, Alpa STC, and Rodenstock 40HR home with me this weekend to hopefully take some recreational photographs, which I haven't had time for in a good while. But I forgot about my scheduled visit to see the Grandkids. But this gave me an opportunity to try a portrait with the STC/40HR, which I've been wanting to do for a while, so I photographed this painter in his studio.
As far as LV goes, haven't see it yet - I hope it's a lot better (it should be) because live view for focus/composition is a critical app for repro work.
Edmund, your wallet remark was funny - and BC thanks for the nice words.
Now, you guys all know that Photokina is only about 3 weeks away, can't you wait? ;)
Steve Hendrix
Capture Integration
Steve
Is there a humor category in the Photokina photo competition? because you certainly have a good late entry :D
Edmund
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Steve
Is there a humor category in the Photokina photo competition? because you certainly have a good late entry :D
Edmund
I will post one more indulgence before collapsing for the night.
I didn't realize my young painter was also a budding photographer, with impeccable taste!
Steve Hendrix
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That must be the highest Camera-price/Photographer-age ratio in the history of mankind! :)
Cheers,
Bernard
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That must be the highest Camera-price/Photographer-age ratio in the history of mankind! :)
Indeed :)
Wonderful photos Steve.
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Whoops... will he be testing products in Photokina? ...I'd trust his opinion more than others on this site! ;) Excellent style! :-* ...Is he "live viewing" with high tech equipment? ???