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The Art of Photography => Discussing Photographic Styles => Topic started by: stamper on July 08, 2014, 10:08:30 am

Title: Street Photography.
Post by: stamper on July 08, 2014, 10:08:30 am
The Street Photographers Manual [Paperback] David Gibson.

I am about halfway through this newly published book and I am impressed. The author clearly knows what he is writing about. I have no connection to him. :)

http://www.in-public.com/
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: praveenraj on September 16, 2014, 06:23:00 am
is the pubic dot com is your book?
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 16, 2014, 08:58:47 am
I don't think Stamper is David Gibson. Stamper does excellent Street photography without (to my knowledge) using any handbook.
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: stamper on September 16, 2014, 09:44:33 am
is the pubic dot com is your book?

Re read my post.....I have no connection to him. Smiley
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: praveenraj on September 17, 2014, 02:44:00 am
Re read my post.....I have no connection to him. Smiley


Ha ha ya, I read it now ... Smiley :P
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: wmchauncey on September 17, 2014, 11:49:06 am
Was wondering...does anyone have images of strangers hanging in their living room?
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: RSL on September 17, 2014, 01:09:42 pm
Was wondering...does anyone have images of strangers hanging in their living room?

Not in my living room, but I have plenty of them in hallways and bedrooms. For instance, the one I've attached.
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: Isaac on December 18, 2014, 12:39:32 pm
The Street Photographers Manual [Paperback] David Gibson.

I found the book difficult to read: the font used for the main text is tiny, the writing style seems to be rambling monologue, and equivocation makes the writing confused.

For example:

page 141 "Empty chairs and benches on the street announce their presence because of their emptiness. Their function is always incomplete without people, so they are never completely empty when photographed." -- No, they are completely empty when photographed, and their function brings to mind what's missing.

page 142 "Empty is a spurious word when applied to street photography because it suggests something lacking -- an empty street is supposedly always awaiting people to furnish it. Streets are functional, they require people but their absence can actually be the photograph." -- So stop misusing the word; or untwist the equivocation to make clear that in one case we're describing a physical street, and in the other case we're describing the feelings evoked by a photograph of an empty street.

page 122 "There is no colour in shadows, so they are more dramatic." -- A photographer who hasn't noticed that there is colour in shadows (http://www.exploratorium.edu/snacks/colored_shadows/)? Less interestingly, on page 25, the Martin Parr photograph shows blue shadows on a blue towel.

"Ethics" page 180-181 once again demonstrates the wisdom of Richard P. Feynman -- "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool."
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 18, 2014, 01:30:59 pm
I found the book difficult to read: the font used for the main text is tiny, the writing style seems to be rambling monologue, and equivocation makes the writing confused...

Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: stamper on December 19, 2014, 03:27:45 am
Tried reading glasses? Or maybe get someone to read it to you as a bedtime story? ;)
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: stamper on December 20, 2014, 03:38:51 am
Thank you for demonstrating your idea of "forum etiquette".

For anyone interested in the book: the font used for the main text is tiny, it looks like 8 point text.

Substitute humour for "forum etiquette". and your reading will be correct. :)
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 20, 2014, 01:02:46 pm
... Or maybe get someone to read it to you as a bedtime story? ;)

C'mon, Isaac, that was a genuinely benevolent advice. Given your difficulty in comprehending the text, you would fall asleep even before the first chapter is half-over.  ;)
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 20, 2014, 01:24:21 pm
Is mockery really the best you have to offer?

Only if your fragile ego can not distinguish mockery from a friendly teasing ;)
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 20, 2014, 08:29:47 pm
Only if your fragile ego can not distinguish mockery from a friendly teasing ;)
Perhaps he needs an introductory text (large type, of course) on the usage and meaning of smileys.   :D
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 22, 2014, 01:49:38 pm
Do you make jokes about yourself...

Yes, quite often.
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: RSL on December 22, 2014, 03:01:11 pm
Do you make jokes about yourself. . .

Something you might like to explore, Isaac. It beats putdowns and wins serious consideration of what you have to say.
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 22, 2014, 05:35:39 pm
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=96073.msg785268#msg785268

If that was true, it wasn't a joke then. If it was not true, it was a lie, not a joke either. Admitting a mistake is honesty, not humor.

This, on the other hand, is: "When you are wrong and you say it, you are smart. When you are right and you shut up, you are... married" :)
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: stamper on December 23, 2014, 04:19:56 am
Isaac I will buy you this for christmas if you post your address. :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/221629562118?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=108&chn=ps&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=108
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 23, 2014, 11:25:38 am
Do you make jokes about yourself or are your jokes just put-downs of other people?

Do you just repeat yourself or you can come up with something fresh instead? ;)
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: stamper on December 23, 2014, 11:39:01 am
I was expecting..... Don't feed the Trolls feed the conversation. I'm sure he has it on cut and paste. Just have to accept he doesn't have a sense of humour....at least on the forum?
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 23, 2014, 12:18:12 pm
There's nothing "fresh" about stamper and yourself having nothing more to contribute to a discussion (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=91484.msg785197#msg785197)...

You want us to discuss the book's fonts!?
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: Isaac on December 23, 2014, 01:10:11 pm
You want us to discuss the book's fonts!?

That would be "fresh".

You could discuss the book's content - that would be "fresh".

You could discuss street photography - that would be "fresh".

Or keep to the same old put-downs if that's the best you have to offer.
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: amolitor on December 23, 2014, 01:32:01 pm
I'm not gonna get into the put-downs and of things, but I do think it's worth re-iterating this: Isaac, you are not exactly a stellar example of contributing. You seem to view yourself as a provocateur, asking questions al la Socrates, to stimulate discussion, rather than actually contributing anything.

So, perhaps it might behoove you to be a little less insistent that others contribute substance.
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: amolitor on December 23, 2014, 01:55:15 pm
So "not exactly a stellar example" and "provocateur" but "not gonna get into the put-downs" ;-)

huh?

Tell us something about "The Street Photographers Manual" or in-public.

No.
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: RSL on December 23, 2014, 06:12:05 pm
In any case. . .  merry Christmas, Isaac.
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: Rob C on November 22, 2016, 09:27:06 am
Interesting thread over which to have tripped. In the time between the last post (reminds me of the Scouts) and now, Slobodan has moved homes, Isaac has apparently left LuLa and returned; I've found several new things wrong with me to use in place of conversation and people are measuring the speed of light and extrapolating it with the speed of their brains whilst I'm still making snaps! Bloody amazing.

Here's a lady whose hair reminds me of Richard Avedon's lionesque (neologism?) mane.

(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-2858_orig.jpg)

Rob
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: RSL on November 22, 2016, 04:01:43 pm
Looks as if her friend doesn't appreciate it either, Rob.
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: Rob C on November 22, 2016, 04:13:23 pm
But is it her friend or a security woman?

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: RSL on November 22, 2016, 04:41:35 pm
If she's a security woman, surely she won't let her in with hair like that! ;D
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: Rob C on November 23, 2016, 04:52:32 am
If she's a security woman, surely she won't let her in with hair like that! ;D

What, you don't think Dick Avedon was blessed with his mop?

This is real street as real as it can get; shot in the street! Excuses everything.

There are two markets in Pollensa on Sundays: the fruit and vegetables one where I used to find myself every Sunday morning at about half-past-eight, when my wife would buy the week's supplies and I'd fulfil my rĂ´le as mule. I stopped going when she died.

There's a second market at the same time, in another square, which does clothes and junk. It used to be held on top of a huge underground car park that was built some time ago, but the town hall has now stopped that area from being used due to damage from the stalls (maybe the roof was built too weak?), and it's now held along the surrounding streets, causing chaos. It also ruined my shooting idea, because there's no longer the possibility of walking behind one row of stalls intent on a target the other side of said row; to walk behnd a stall now would entail being inside somebody's house. Best-laid plans etc.

I'm toying with the idea of going out to another, local market, today in the Port; it depends on how long it takes me to deal with e-mails etc. and by then, I may have lost interest. C'est a vie.

Last night I got the news that my best client ever, the Hewden/Stuart Group, has folded. I last worked for them when I made their '85 calendar: it was a huge job, with forty-two different sets of artwork, one for each member company within the group. Now it doesn't exist. From the largest civil engineering supplier/hirer of industrial plant to zero. I think a lot must have hinged on the top guns: the few I knew were all a little older than I, and some were original owners of the companies that formed the group. I guess that with retirements etc. the chains of influence and friendships that keep life moving just drop away...

On the bright side: it would have been a disaster to have been responsible for paying the bills for such a production had the client failed during my tenure! In those days, few even thought about insurance - you took big companies on trust. The banking crisis changed that for ever.

Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: RSL on November 24, 2016, 05:40:59 pm
I understand the feeling, Rob. It's the same feeling I get when I look at what Air Force pilots are flying now, and realize that my F-84 is rusting in some dump. Time marches on. . . or at least slouches on. The best days are yet to come, but probably not on this earth.
Title: Re: Street Photography.
Post by: Rob C on December 04, 2016, 05:32:53 pm
From this morning; no Sergeant Pepper today, I'm afraid - must have marched off to war.

(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-2890_1_orig.jpg)

Rob