Luminous Landscape Forum
Equipment & Techniques => Landscape & Nature Photography => Topic started by: MartinSpence on February 06, 2014, 10:28:28 am
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Last October my family took a trip to the North of England, while my boys played on the rocks avoiding the waves I took the opportunity to capture this infamous Rock on the Northumberland coast. It was a cloudy, overcast day so I think it works best in Black & White.
(http://www.martinspencephotography.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Marsden-Rock-Northern-Ireland-Landscape-Photographer-Large-2.jpg)
Enjoy
M
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Last October my family took a trip to the North of England, while my boys played on the rocks avoiding the waves I took the opportunity to capture this infamous Rock on the Northumberland coast. It was a cloudy, overcast day so I think it works best in Black & White.
And it works very nicely in b&w, Martin. I like it. The sky could stand being a little more dramatic.
Jeremy
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Thanks Jeremy - I will do that.
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Nice image, I agree with the idea of adding a bit more drama to the sky.
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With good pp it should work well in color too.
Overcast skies have some advantages for color work.
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With good pp it should work well in color too.
Overcast skies have some advantages for color work.
Thanks Chris - what sort of PP would u do for it in Colour?
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Lots of potential here. I'd also like to see a little more drama and maybe colour.
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Thanks Chris - what sort of PP would u do for it in Colour?
I would need to see the colour to judge this properly.
The colour balance would be the first problem.
You'd most likely have to warm it up the right amount.
For that I'd temporarily boost saturation very strong and then check at which color balance and tint I get good colour separation.
Then I'd pull down saturation again.
Then I'd experiment with saturation boost or reduction, maybe selectively only on parts of the image.
Also selective changes of lightness or hue might get you further.
But that all depends a lot on the colour palette in the image and what it offers.
Lost of room to play here.
Cheers
~Chris
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I like the image and don't think it needs rescuing with colour, Martin, but I think you could do a bit more with the b&w. For instance, the clouds are quite bright but don't merit as much attention as the centre of the scene, so maybe bring down their tone. I see you processed it in LR, so its grad filter would be what I'd try, dragging it down to the horizon and with a negative highlights slider (so highlights rather than the rock would be darkened). Maybe add another grad along the sky above the rock, bringing down its brightness much more. And maybe crop a bit tighter from the left?
John
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I would need to see the colour to judge this properly.
The colour balance would be the first problem.
You'd most likely have to warm it up the right amount.
For that I'd temporarily boost saturation very strong and then check at which color balance and tint I get good colour separation.
Then I'd pull down saturation again.
Then I'd experiment with saturation boost or reduction, maybe selectively only on parts of the image.
Also selective changes of lightness or hue might get you further.
But that all depends a lot on the colour palette in the image and what it offers.
Lost of room to play here.
Cheers
~Chris
This was the colour version - thoughts?
(http://www.martinspencephotography.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Marsedn-Rock-Colour.jpg)
@johnbeardy - thanks - I'll try that in the B&W one too.
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This was the colour version - thoughts?
Here's my thoughts - maybe slightly exaggerated ... ;)
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Yes Chris - that's definitely a lot bluer - did u just add a blue Gad filter in LR?
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Martin, why is the water so brown? Is that how you remember it? I agree with slicing a tad off the left.
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Yes Chris - that's definitely a lot bluer - did u just add a blue Gad filter in LR?
I used curves and the grey eyedropper for colorbalance.
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I had something like this in mind (I was working on the jpeg, and it's very small, so forgive errors).
Jeremy
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Martin, why is the water so brown? Is that how you remember it? I agree with slicing a tad off the left.
It was a murky old day, but I don't think the water was that brown, funny it doesn't look as brown in LR as it does not when I uploaded it...
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I used curves and the grey eyedropper for colorbalance.
Thanks
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I had something like this in mind (I was working on the jpeg, and it's very small, so forgive errors).
Jeremy
Thanks - that looks like a better version than mine.
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Thanks - that looks like a better version than mine.
Silver Efex Pro! I came late to this program, having previously been content with b&w conversions in Lightroom. I'm amazed and delighted by the results I get. It is worth the price of the Nik set on its own.
Jeremy
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I just wouldn't put it down to Silver Efex. You could have produced a similar interpretation in Lightroom (and you're close to what I suggested in post 18), but a different set of tools often leads you to make different creative choices.
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It's such a great subject...but the monument floats abnormally on a "sea of cotton"...? It would have been nice to see some edges in the water...not stopped down so much. I don't think the stylistic cliché helps with this image... /B
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Thanks Brandt
I'll add that to future shots I take with the ND filter, to take slower shutter speed shots as well as not so slow.