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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Colour Management => Topic started by: Nill Toulme on November 16, 2013, 01:49:53 pm

Title: Back to basics
Post by: Nill Toulme on November 16, 2013, 01:49:53 pm
Help please, for someone (me) who used to be reasonably tech-competent but, anymore, not so much.  It's been literally years since I set up color management on my old reliable XP system, and for years it's simply worked.  Still does, but I can't stand the lack of speed any longer.

So I finally broke down and bought a whole new system.  It's Win 7 64-bit.  It's pretty much up and running well although I haven't actually started any production on it.  I have a PA271W and NEC sensor on the way from B&H.  (I already own Spectraview II for my old reliable, but fading, 2090uxi, and I've downloaded the latest version.)

My core apps are C1 v7, Photoshop CS6, BreezeBrowser Pro and Qimage.  I print to an Epson 4800.

What I don't remember are all the steps for setting up color management in those apps.  I just vaguely recall that it seemed like there were a lot of them.  Where can I find a basically idiot-level, step-by-step cookbook for getting my color management set up properly?

Thanks.   
Title: Re: Back to basics
Post by: hugowolf on November 16, 2013, 10:32:17 pm
You shouldn't need to do anything. Install SpectraView II, run it, profile the montior, what else is to do?

Are you talking about color management for printers, projectors, scanners, cameras, as well as the monitor?

Brian A
Title: Re: Back to basics
Post by: D Fosse on November 17, 2013, 07:19:56 am
I was about to say the same thing. Color management has this reputation for being "difficult", which is totally unfounded. If the application is color managed at all, it works right out of the box at default settings, and requires very little user intervention.

There are some details and policy decisions, like setting a white point for your monitor, but just start with the default settings. Don't change anything until you know why you would want to change it. For printing you need to pick a printer/paper/ink profile, otherwise the principle is the same: source/document profile > destination/device profile. That's color management summed up.

What makes color management difficult is applications without it, breaking the chain and causing inconsistencies.
Title: Re: Back to basics
Post by: ksmyk on November 18, 2013, 08:25:53 am
http://www.imagescience.com.au/kb/questions/142/How+To+Calibrate+An+NEC+Monitor+With+SpectraView+II
Title: Re: Back to basics
Post by: Nill Toulme on November 20, 2013, 08:22:31 pm
Thanks all.  You've reminded me that I've forgotten even what I found easy and what relatively difficult.  Calibrating the monitor is a snap, I know.  It was setting up PS and Qimage to print using color management and particular paper profiles (which I have) that I recall as being somewhat step-heavy.
Title: Re: Back to basics
Post by: Shutterbug2006 on November 21, 2013, 12:10:00 am
What printer are you using?

Title: Re: Back to basics
Post by: Nill Toulme on November 21, 2013, 09:30:22 am
Epson 4800
Title: Re: Back to basics
Post by: Jack Varney on November 25, 2013, 10:05:58 pm
Nill, check out Ian Lyons site, http://www.computer-darkroom.com/. I think you will find you will find what you need there.
Title: Re: Back to basics
Post by: Nill Toulme on November 26, 2013, 10:04:58 am
Thanks Jack.
Title: Re: Back to basics
Post by: Nill Toulme on November 26, 2013, 03:36:09 pm
Nill, check out Ian Lyons site, http://www.computer-darkroom.com/. I think you will find you will find what you need there.
p.s.  Excellent, and exactly what I needed.  Thanks again!
Title: Re: Back to basics
Post by: Jack Varney on November 26, 2013, 10:00:35 pm
You are indeed welcome! I've relied on it for several Photoshop versions and am glad it worded for you.
Title: Re: Back to basics
Post by: Nill Toulme on January 26, 2014, 06:51:30 pm
One more dumb question, if I may ... should I calibrate (using Spectraview II) to Native Gamut (Full) or Adobe RGB (which is my usual working space)?
Title: Re: Back to basics
Post by: hugowolf on January 26, 2014, 09:39:39 pm
One more dumb question, if I may ... should I calibrate (using Spectraview II) to Native Gamut (Full) or Adobe RGB (which is my usual working space)?

Native, but you may recieve other opinions. Native will probably still not reach full AdobeRGB.

Brian A
Title: Re: Back to basics
Post by: Nill Toulme on January 30, 2014, 04:34:59 pm
Thanks.