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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: Seoonmie on October 21, 2013, 12:12:22 pm

Title: Headless
Post by: Seoonmie on October 21, 2013, 12:12:22 pm
June 6th, 2013, Edinburgh

(http://jjuntunen.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Skotlanti_2013/0906_ihan_p%E4%E4t%F6n-9720.jpg/_img900.jpg)
Title: Re: Headless
Post by: wmchauncey on October 21, 2013, 02:33:13 pm
You can almost see the confusion on the child's face...       ;D
Title: Re: Headless
Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on October 21, 2013, 03:46:51 pm
Sorry, but it doesn't work for me.
The "headless effect" needs a close look to actually be seen - I saw a second image of this man on your website which imho looked better.
The crop also should be tighter if you ask me.

Cheers
~Chris
Title: Re: Headless
Post by: stamper on October 22, 2013, 04:23:26 am
Sorry, but it doesn't work for me.
The "headless effect" needs a close look to actually be seen - I saw a second image of this man on your website which imho looked better.
The crop also should be tighter if you ask me.

Cheers
~Chris

You mean like this?
Title: Re: Headless
Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on October 22, 2013, 05:03:26 am
You mean like this?

Stamper, you pirate! ;)
And  yes.
Title: Re: Headless
Post by: stamper on October 22, 2013, 05:48:18 am
No pirate! An image I took myself. The original was taken by Seoonmie in June. This "act" must obviously be on the Royal Mile in Edinburgh on a regular basis. I saw him in August as part of the annual Fringe Festival which takes place in the first three weeks of August. If you scroll down the link to Flickr in my signature he is "there" taken on August 09.  :)
Title: Re: Headless
Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on October 22, 2013, 06:24:13 am
Pirate because of hijacking the thread with your image ... ;)
Title: Re: Headless
Post by: Seoonmie on October 22, 2013, 01:35:39 pm
Stamper's right, I saw this fantastic act on the Royal Mile. Good to know he/she's been "on the market" for some time now.

Thank you for the comments, all of you!
Title: Re: Headless
Post by: RSL on October 22, 2013, 01:45:25 pm
Sorry, but it doesn't work for me.
The "headless effect" needs a close look to actually be seen - I saw a second image of this man on your website which imho looked better.
The crop also should be tighter if you ask me.

I'd agree, Chris. The picture needs to be tighter, and the headless "man" needs some dodging to make it clear he's headless. The solution would have been to get closer, but as we've all learned, once you make a mistake you have to live with it, so cropping, in this case, becomes necessary.

And I agree that Stamper hijacked the thread by plopping down his own picture, which then competes with the original. On the other hand, as far as I've seen, everybody on LuLa has always been comfortable with suggested modifications on the original. Like this one.
Title: Re: Headless
Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on October 22, 2013, 02:36:53 pm
Yup, Russ - pretty much the edit I imagined.
Probably pushing the dodge even further and converting to B/W would really save the image.
The motive is worth it.
Title: Re: Headless
Post by: RSL on October 22, 2013, 05:02:03 pm
I agree, Chris. It's good street. With the original raw Seo could do a lot better than I was able to do on the .jpeg. Oh, I also dropped the saturation on the yellow color cast.
Title: Re: Headless
Post by: Seoonmie on October 23, 2013, 02:31:31 pm
Here's a couple of quick edits. Let me know what you think of them.

(edit 1)

(http://jjuntunen.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Foorumeille/Headless-9720.jpg/_img900.jpg)

in BW

(http://jjuntunen.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Foorumeille/Headless_bw-9720.jpg/_img900.jpg)
Title: Re: Headless
Post by: David Eckels on October 23, 2013, 03:07:57 pm
IMHO, I think the B/W conversion enhances the interaction between the little boy and the headless figure by removing the color distraction.
Title: Re: Headless
Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on October 23, 2013, 03:25:36 pm
B/W is definitely better - I'd even try to work on the tones at the head to make it stand out better.
I believe in the end it will be a saved image.
Title: Re: Headless
Post by: RSL on October 23, 2013, 03:32:23 pm
I'd certainly agree that monochrome improves things. Most street photography is better in black and white, unless it's a situation where color is part of the point. Rajan's "Newspaper Stand" is an example of that. And, yes, more work needs to be done to make the "headlessness" clear. I'd also go for lifting some of the lows a bit to bring out more detail in the guy's clothing. I'd work hard on this one to improve it. Underneath, it's s quite good street shot.
Title: Re: Headless
Post by: David Eckels on October 24, 2013, 09:02:17 am
more work needs to be done to make the "headlessness" clear. I'd also go for lifting some of the lows a bit to bring out more detail in the guy's clothing...
Good point, Russ, I was so intent on the interaction between them that I had missed what appears to be the blocked detail in the clothing.