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The Art of Photography => But is it Art? => Topic started by: Iluvmycam on September 19, 2013, 03:17:32 pm

Title: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: Iluvmycam on September 19, 2013, 03:17:32 pm

On another photo forum I am on, a member posted this thread.  Before I had time to even read or post to it it was closed.

It is a good topic, so I will open up discussion here.

runnah wrote:

This is relevant to all art forms but we will focus on photography.

So as most regulars on here will agree that overused filter packs and PS actions ruin a photo. But contrary to folks here 99% of the population loves it and buys it in droves. Most wedding photos I see have some sort to similar effect.

So are we wrong? If it is so bad than why is it so popular? Who is to say what is bad or good?


http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/photographic-discussions/339848-s-matter-taste.html
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: petermfiore on September 19, 2013, 05:50:27 pm
There is a difference between Fine Art and Commercial Art. Hence different needs and tastes. Phased to keep it tasteful.



Peter
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: Isaac on September 19, 2013, 05:53:07 pm
People differ. Hence different needs and tastes.
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 20, 2013, 12:24:21 am
What it boils down to is this: My taste is excellent, and the taste of anybody who disagrees with me is terrible.
 ::)
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: SeanBK on September 20, 2013, 03:44:03 am
People wants a quick cheap results that r not normal, so with one click if they can do something different like my 4 yr old grand kid wants to with my 30+ MP w/Zeiss on it's LCD screen than they feel they r also very creative. Getting sharp, well correctly exposed image is too much hassle & forget @ PS.
   All u have to do is to go 'Tunnel View' @ Yosemite and watch strangers look @ your LCD screen shot & tell u, my cheap camera takes better than your expensive one on tripod. ::) My wife kept telling me count to 10 & tripod is not a javelin.  ;)
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: francois on September 20, 2013, 03:52:32 am
What it boils down to is this: My taste is excellent, and the taste of anybody who disagrees with me is terrible.
 ::)

This is a very common way of thinking, nothing new but you summarised it perfectly  :(
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: Rob C on September 20, 2013, 06:43:37 am
This is a very common way of thinking, nothing new but you summarised it perfectly  :(

And that's because it is perfect!

Rob C
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: PeterAit on September 20, 2013, 08:46:42 am

If it is so bad than why is it so popular?

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/photographic-discussions/339848-s-matter-taste.html

The curmudgeon in me wants to reply "it is so popular because it is bad," but I know that's not really true. However, using food as an analogy, look at the immense popularity of McDonalds, Domino Pizza, and other chains that serve terrible food.
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: Rob C on September 20, 2013, 09:27:24 am
The curmudgeon in me wants to reply "it is so popular because it is bad," but I know that's not really true. However, using food as an analogy, look at the immense popularity of McDonalds, Domino Pizza, and other chains that serve terrible food.


Don't be afraid to say it:

The Lowest Common Denominator.

;-)

Rob C
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: Isaac on September 20, 2013, 12:14:05 pm
However, using food as an analogy, look at the immense popularity of McDonalds, Domino Pizza, and other chains that serve terrible food.

Cheap fast cooked-food without shopping, without a kitchen, without utensils; somewhere warm and clean and dry.

But wasn't the topic something frivolous -- why people might like one style of photography more than another?
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: wmchauncey on September 21, 2013, 10:56:33 am
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There is a difference between Fine Art and Commercial Art
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The Lowest Common Denominator
It might be said that those who frequent sites as ours do tend to fall outside that LCD range and more toward the Fine Art appreciation direction.
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: Rob C on September 21, 2013, 02:35:01 pm
It might be said that those who frequent sites as ours do tend to fall outside that LCD range and more toward the Fine Art appreciation direction.



It isn't about the membership of a particular forum - it's a measure of life in general.

Rob C
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: Ed B on September 22, 2013, 11:12:13 am
Bud Light is the top selling beer in the US........There's no accounting for taste.
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: Isaac on September 22, 2013, 12:49:44 pm
There's no accounting for anything until you make some effort to understand what explanations there might be.
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: petermfiore on September 22, 2013, 01:08:11 pm
There's no accounting for anything until you make some effort to understand what explanations there might be.


And then there are those that are visual nomads.

Peter
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: Kirk Gittings on September 22, 2013, 01:17:40 pm
What it boils down to is this: My taste is excellent, and the taste of anybody who disagrees with me is terrible.
 ::)

That is the POV of a narrow minded arrogant artist which I am quite capable of myself. When I am more humble and conscious, I try and ask of all art "what do you have to teach me?". More often than not the answer is not much or nothing, but in asking that question I give all art a chance. Sometimes.........sometimes I learn something important and sometimes........I learn to love art that I perviously despised.
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: Isaac on September 22, 2013, 02:02:36 pm
And then there are those that are visual nomads.

And your opaque epigrams might be placeholders for some interesting ideas, which you don't take care to communicate.
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: wmchauncey on September 22, 2013, 07:32:29 pm
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And your opaque epigrams might be placeholders for some interesting ideas, which you don't take care to communicate.
Huh?
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: BFoto on October 27, 2013, 07:11:47 pm
What it boils down to is this: My taste is excellent, and the taste of anybody who disagrees with me is terrible.
 ::)

+1
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: jjj on October 28, 2013, 09:23:19 am
What it boils down to is this: My taste is excellent, and the taste of anybody who disagrees with me is terrible.
 ::)
My view exactly, but do not forget that if something good becomes popular, then it somehow becomes less good.
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: BFoto on October 29, 2013, 02:56:41 am
My view exactly, but do not forget that if something good becomes popular, then it somehow becomes less good.


Wonder if thats why there such a negative view amongst some that nothing is good anymore?
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: mal mcilwraith on March 14, 2014, 04:36:13 pm
I wonder if we can divide this subject up a little to throw some more light on the matter.

We have taste about something or some action taken which we might simplify down to be discussed as the subject.

The subject can be created by a person/s or as the result of human actions OR
it can be created by nature, God call the process what you will.

I can't fathom the intentions of nature or God however I do think the intentions of the creator of a 'subject' is part of the taste equation.

I suspect but can't prove that the motivation of people who create 'subject' matter which others approve or disapprove of has changed, or at least the % of 'subject' matter that is created, to say "look at what I have done, pay me some attention" has increased - sometimes it is just about money but I think the social media process demonstrates the cry for personal attention that occurs where money is not involved.

Is this just a modern channel for something that has always existed?
Maybe or maybe we have become more desirous of individual attention and less happy to be just part of the tribe/village etc.

This post may be just written to prove the point.
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on March 14, 2014, 04:46:16 pm
Why do we need taste as long as we can sell it?
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: mal mcilwraith on March 14, 2014, 05:09:17 pm
Why do we need taste as long as we can sell it?

I checked out your images - very appealing images - my favourite - "Little Planet" very engaging image.



Mal
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on March 14, 2014, 05:43:24 pm
I checked out your images - very appealing images - my favourite - "Little Planet" very engaging image.

Mal

Thanks - its appreciated, though I have to admit the little planet is just a "me too" thing I tried once.
Cheers
~Chris
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: mal mcilwraith on March 14, 2014, 07:27:35 pm
Thanks - its appreciated, though I have to admit the little planet is just a "me too" thing I tried once.
Cheers
~Chris


Chris


I think uniqueness is mostly delusion - few people achieve it - most just think they have.
I aim for relevant and leave the phantasy to others.

I for one liked your "me too" image - well done, I say.


Mal
Title: Re: AW: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on March 14, 2014, 08:05:27 pm
I sort of am oriented more towards identity than uniqueness.
I try to do my thing and not force myself to be original.
I personally believe this pays back on the long run.
And yes ... trying to have fun doing that!
Cheers
~Chris
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: telyt on April 07, 2014, 04:29:52 pm
My view exactly, but do not forget that if something good becomes popular, then it somehow becomes less good.


Or if it becomes popular it wasn't that good to begin with.
Title: Re: It's a matter of taste...
Post by: jjj on May 01, 2014, 07:27:29 pm
Or if it becomes popular it wasn't that good to begin with.
Just because something may not appeal to you, does not make it bad.