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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Adobe Lightroom Q&A => Topic started by: Box Brownie on September 01, 2013, 04:55:37 am

Title: 5.2RC to final 5.2 yet?
Post by: Box Brownie on September 01, 2013, 04:55:37 am
Sometimes time flies and other times not..............................so just curious as 5.2RC I think was 'released' on 5th August and wondering when it would be "finalised" as a full release???
Title: Re: 5.2RC to final 5.2 yet?
Post by: eliedinur on September 01, 2013, 04:58:34 am
Not yet. Patience, my child.
Title: Re: 5.2RC to final 5.2 yet?
Post by: Box Brownie on September 01, 2013, 05:00:16 am
Not yet. Patience, my child.

 :D :D ;)
Title: Re: 5.2RC to final 5.2 yet?
Post by: Simon Garrett on September 01, 2013, 05:15:17 am
Adobe are not known for their speed at releasing bug fixes.  Given that LR5 was released with quite a number of bugs, despite a beta phase, you can perhaps understand their reluctance to rush out fixes. 

Over the last few years I've been working with small teams who have development cycles measured in days rather than months, but I suspect LR is too big (code size and team size) to do that safely.  God forbid that they should move to Agile Development methods, which have led to some of the worst and most poorly documented code I've ever had to endure. 
Title: Re: 5.2RC to final 5.2 yet?
Post by: john beardsworth on September 01, 2013, 05:19:56 am
God forbid that they should move to Agile Development methods...

See http://www.troygaul.com/LrExposedC4.html
Title: Re: 5.2RC to final 5.2 yet?
Post by: Simon Garrett on September 01, 2013, 07:56:45 am
See http://www.troygaul.com/LrExposedC4.html
Oh dear.

In my (limited) experience, "Agile Development" tends to result in self-fulfilling metrics that "prove" how good it is, but often poor code and documentation: "the code is documented by the user requirements and test procedures".  This meets immediate goals, but once the team disperses the code base is almost unmaintainable. All to often, the user requirements are created by hot-house methodology (for which read "hot head").  Requirements are written in a form that leave users or customers bewildered, and which makes it their fault when the resulting product doesn't meet their real requirements. 

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_software_development#Criticism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_software_development#Criticism)

Agile Development is probably good for fast small-to-medium sized one-off projects.  Not so good for things requiring long-term maintainability. 

Let's hope the Lightroom team is more enlightened. 
Title: Re: 5.2RC to final 5.2 yet?
Post by: Rhossydd on September 01, 2013, 08:40:44 am
Let's hope the Lightroom team is more enlightened. 
In it's defence, Lightroom has been a fantastic success in terms of delivering a robust, reliable and easy to use package so far.

There have been some poor decisions in what to add, what to support and there's still a lot of features users are clamouring for, but mostly it ought to be regarded as a success story with respect to actual coding.
Title: Re: 5.2RC to final 5.2 yet?
Post by: stevebri on September 01, 2013, 11:02:13 am
We've never had it so good.

LR is fab, in all it's versions.... It's made our lives in front of a screen so much easier and is very stable, compared to windoze and my wife's latest iPad.

All these great cameras, great software, LR doesn't need a thing.


S
Title: Re: 5.2RC to final 5.2 yet?
Post by: Rhossydd on September 01, 2013, 11:15:19 am
LR doesn't need a thing.
I think many of us would strongly disagree with that. There's a lot left to add.
Title: Re: 5.2RC to final 5.2 yet?
Post by: Isaac on September 01, 2013, 11:26:04 am
Not so good for things requiring long-term maintainability.

Those slides are dated 2008, so maybe we can leave the LR development team to figure-out what works for them ;-)