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Title: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: Chris L on July 29, 2013, 10:52:32 am
hello. I am editing my BMCC pro res footage with FCP X and am hoping to find a plug in that will allow me to fix the green shift I am getting by clicking onto a grey card like I would with my Stills workflow in C1 Pro. Does anyone know of a plug in?

FYI, I have tried Resolve and other softwares, I am not interested in switching software at this point, I prefer editing in FCP X.
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: Morgan_Moore on July 29, 2013, 04:18:15 pm
Click grey balance seems to be foreign concept to video people

I rembrr getting a plug insight have been for fcpx which I no longer use

Adobe speed grade has it I think

Resolve is IMO great but does not have grey balance

I've mailed Peter chamberlain at bmd suggesting this I suggest others do the same..
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: bcooter on July 29, 2013, 08:31:01 pm
Click grey balance seems to be foreign concept to video people

I rembrr getting a plug insight have been for fcpx which I no longer use

Adobe speed grade has it I think

Resolve is IMO great but does not have grey balance

I've mailed Peter chamberlain at bmd suggesting this I suggest others do the same..

FCP 7's three way color corrector has it.  small dropper next to each wheel (dark tones, midtones, highlights).

Also the three way color corrector has by the numbers, or the wheels, and auto fuctions for tone, and color.

FCP X . . . doesn't have anything except magnetic sequences, I mean projects, or is that timelines/projects, I forget.

IMO

BC
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: JonRoemer on July 30, 2013, 02:58:02 pm
hello. I am editing my BMCC pro res footage with FCP X and am hoping to find a plug in that will allow me to fix the green shift I am getting by clicking onto a grey card like I would with my Stills workflow in C1 Pro. Does anyone know of a plug in?

FYI, I have tried Resolve and other softwares, I am not interested in switching software at this point, I prefer editing in FCP X.

Haven't tried it but here's one Cineflare White-Balancer (http://www.cineflare.com/white-balancer/).
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: Chris L on July 30, 2013, 03:10:03 pm
thanks, that could work. It balances off a white card instead of grey, but I will give it a try.
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: JonRoemer on July 30, 2013, 04:19:44 pm
thanks, that could work. It balances off a white card instead of grey, but I will give it a try.

Stills or video -> with digital you really don't want to use an old school grey card especially if it's a Kodak grey card or similar.  Those are made for exposure only.  They are not manufactured to have consistent color, only to have a consistent shade of grey when seen as a b&w tone by an exposure meter.

Ideally, you'd use something equivalent to one chip down from pure white on an X-rite ColorChecker, the large full-page chip in a ColorChecker Passport, or a digital grey card (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/716956-REG/WhiBal_WB7_RC_G7_White_Balance_Reference.html).
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: John.Murray on July 30, 2013, 06:44:41 pm
this also works:

http://www.rippletraining.com/using-the-rt-color-balance-effect-in-final-cut-pro-x.html
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: bcooter on July 31, 2013, 01:51:27 am
Red Giant has new products.

Update of colorista that does the eye dropper, auto settings and wheels.

Set LUTs, your own look presets, de noise,  etc.

Kind of expensive, but works well.

Also Red Giant Bulletproof, only $99.

Does imports from cards, and corrects first light grading, also has wheels, auto settings, luts, set your own style looks and a color picker for grey balance.

You can also set it to send metadata to the file in fcp 7 and X.

IMO

BC
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: fredjeang2 on July 31, 2013, 04:56:46 am
Ha!

See? This is the wild west.
This is what exactly is putting me on nerves.
We can't bloody have an editing software
In 2013 that features fully funccional CC
Capabilities.
That sucks!!
Or it's roundtripping to Resolve and Co,
Or is chasing plug-ins

This non-sense is exactly the same in camera
Design. We need to add a myriad of accesories
To make the circus works. (and help the chinese industry)
But nothing that goes
Out of factory is fully funccional by itself.
When it's not beta testings using the users on first
Releases as it happens many times: we release
Something that aint ready and we'll eventually
Fix things according to the customer's complains...

Now, the cine school want me to buy a full course
Training on the use of Hierro with Nuke...
Interesting indeed!


I stop to write because I feel the dark side
Of the force invading my self when I think
About it.

Ps: Avid DS was the solution, and the only real
All-in-one is smoke, unintuitive and weaker than
Resolve in CC.

(http://www.geocities.ws/kinor35/konvas-1m/konvas-1m/nas35-konvas-1m.jpg)

The Russians might have known a thing or two on camera design for the field.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Konvas-automat_wide_screen.jpg)

(http://img13.slando.ua/images_slandocomua/92384057_6_644x461_videokamera-konvas-avtomat-.jpg)

(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/134/0/2/konvas_by_alekseevkirill88-d4zrs0g.jpg)

Sorry to be out-of topic
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: JonRoemer on July 31, 2013, 08:23:28 am
See? This is the wild west. This is what exactly is putting me on nerves.
We can't bloody have an editing software
In 2013 that features fully funccional CC
Capabilities.

I wrote something similar in a thread (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=67738.msg536641#msg536641) in 2012 that we both were adding posts to.:  It just seems like the world of color management with HD video is the wild west and no one is providing a way out.

FWIW, some may find this helpful, Larry Jordan on color correcting in FCP X though it would apply to any NLE.  Takes as a given that most NLEs do not have a click white balance function:  http://youtu.be/jX45Yi1spY4 .


Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: fredjeang2 on July 31, 2013, 09:20:17 am
I wrote something similar in a thread (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=67738.msg536641#msg536641) in 2012 that we both were adding posts to.:  It just seems like the world of color management with HD video is the wild west and no one is providing a way out.

FWIW, some may find this helpful, Larry Jordan on color correcting in FCP X though it would apply to any NLE.  Takes as a given that most NLEs do not have a click white balance function:  http://youtu.be/jX45Yi1spY4 .



Nice Link Jon. Thanks for sharing. Larry is knowledgable.
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: bcooter on July 31, 2013, 01:43:37 pm
When I started with video/motion/digital cinema (whatever you want to call it) 10 years ago, the editors I hired would not color . . . period, nada, nope, never.

Not even drop one color filter into a clip and I don't blame them. 

Editors like writers and directors are story tellers, not colorists or effects houses.

For color, the colorist I used was in Dallas and worked in a 4 story building full of colorists.

Today that 4 story building is 1/4 of a floor and one large, two small suites.

The editorial houses that were a full floor (small houses) or a full block (large houses) in LA are now working in trailers between sound stages.

Today, it's instant gratification.  Our recent and present shoot, has seen us work 18 hour days shooting and honestly, in the end of shooting in London, the client wanted a "quick" edit we shot with three RED's and needed it now.  That was three nights until 4:36, 5:64 and 6:15 am.  Every morning I went to bed with the sun up.

It's not the client's fault, they're into the instagram age where they don't understand why a cell phone still can be effected in 14 seconds.  You can explain that a medium run Hollywood feature takes 6 months to edit and color and that just goes nowhere. 

I've seen great instagram photos, even from amateurs and even then never seen 4 great instigram photos from the same person.  Shooting one photo or video clip that is interesting is not that difficult.  Doing a series of work, either still or motion that has cohesiveness is difficult and takes time.

You can explain it, talk about it, schedule it, diagram it, but it falls on deaf ears.

Today, it's deliver today and most client's think lightroom for stills is a retouching tool, they probably think there is a lightroom for color, which is and isn't true.

Last night downloaded Red giants Bulletproof that ingests and allows for first light coloring.  Did it on a powerbook as a test and apply some basic correction, nothing severe as it does nothing severe.  For 5 - 4 minute clips it took about 6 hours and finally crashed.  The 4 clips it finished had artifacts and some goofy blooming or something I can't describe.

Why is there Bulletproof?  Because client's of all stripes are asking for footage and want ALL the footage color corrected for delivery, prior to editing.

A few years ago, nobody dreamed of that, unless you were shooting news for FOX, or CBS and even then any program that wasn't real time went through some kind of adjustment and editing prior to air.

The thing is most desktop systems are not real time.  There was a reason a old generation Di-vinci suite costs $1,000,000 and even if you can work real time with dedicated render cards, 4 hours of footage in real time, is 4 hours of rendering, not including setting, primary, secondaries and output and even then once into the edit, probably need some tweaking, or major redo's to make a compelling visual piece.

Good work takes time.  More than good work takes a lot of time and it's very hard to explain that in a instagram world.

There is an article in todays NY times about slow down.  It shows some beautiful work that takes time, but as much as the NYT's takes the high road, I can promise you that article will sway no one in the commercial world.

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/29/a-modernists-challenge-to-instant-gratification/?_r=2&

Actually if anyone wants fast, real time color correction the real answer is shoot and edit in black and white.

IMO

BC



Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: Morgan_Moore on July 31, 2013, 06:45:16 pm
Coots - the man with 64 minutes in every hour
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: MrSmith on July 31, 2013, 06:56:01 pm
So BC was in London? Was it you who bought the rain with you?
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: bcooter on July 31, 2013, 07:47:35 pm
So BC was in London? Was it you who bought the rain with you?

You must be a client.  I appreciate that anyone thinks I have enough juice to alter the weather patterns, but . . . no.

I can change 60 minutes into 64 though, ask Mr. MenM.

Actually up till when I left I only saw one cloudy day, though also had the pleasure to enjoy 92F heat (or 33.333C for you guys).

In fact I loved the weather so much, it reminded me of home, so I took a lease in Shoreditch.

Lovely name.

BC
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: MrSmith on August 01, 2013, 05:19:27 am
London isn't designed for 30° temps give me 25° and a cool breeze any day.
Shoreditch is full of wannabe hipsters trying too hard to look cool, I remember when it was full of artists, photographers and dancers wanting cheap space.
O.k. To work in but for an evening away from people who are desperate to feature in Vice or dazed and confused its soho or clerkenwell for me.

Sorry for the thread hijack but I'm interested in a good grading solution for X too. It's crude and could be a lot better, they have dropped the price of colourista recently. There is also the bloom20 code which might still work for more off.

This looks interesting:  http://filmconvert.com/default.aspx
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: bcooter on August 01, 2013, 08:48:42 am
London isn't designed for 30° temps give me 25° and a cool breeze any day.
Shoreditch is full of wannabe hipsters trying too hard to look cool, I remember when it was full of artists, photographers and dancers wanting cheap space.
O.k. To work in but for an evening away from people who are desperate to feature in Vice or dazed and confused its soho or clerkenwell for me.

Sorry for the thread hijack but I'm interested in a good grading solution for X too. It's crude and could be a lot better, they have dropped the price of colourista recently. There is also the bloom20 code which might still work for more off.

This looks interesting:  http://filmconvert.com/default.aspx

I hate to see it, but most neighborhoods in most large cities are full of wannabes.  What use to be Hell's kitchen is full of lofts, studios and editorial interns.

I'm in New York this week and was on a rooftop bar the other night, everyone was wearing $400 shoes, holding $500 phones and drinking $25 mojhitos.  The thought that the old artist neighboorhood's are still thriving with small studios, is kind of gone.

Heck even our Dallas studio which was slumming when we bought it has $65,000,000 worth of retail and loft development going in 1/2 block away.

It's the way of the world.

I'm amazed at the number of 25 year olds that live in manhattan in $4,000 a month apartments.   The stock market is up, the dividends to the trust funds are back and the kids are smiling.

Shoreditch had a  nice place, good price, perfect for production.   Knew nothing about the area, but I like the place.
____________________________


In regards to color, there is no "magic bullet".  Sorry for the pun.  Actually colorista really doesn't do anything that Apple's 3 way color corrector does and not 1/10th of what apples color does and colorista is 10x's slower.

FCP X might be the way the world is going (don't know), but it's not elegant  and not close to full featured in NLE and all forms of post production.

Due to speed, I want fcp x to work, but honestly I think it's so far off right now for professional editing, I don't know if the time savings is worth it.

Maybe Apple will surprise us, but as I dig deeper into X I'm flattened at how difficult it is to find simple tools like color correction, setting key frames for most functions, the one preview window which I find insanely difficult and the ability to run multiple sequences in one easy to work, control, save and backup project.

This thread is about a simple dropper and fcp 7's color corrector has had that for years and it was free.

I still don't understand Apple's thought process, other than they are going for the 1 million customer market rather than the 70,000 customer market.

IMO

BC
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: JonRoemer on August 01, 2013, 10:20:08 am
BC - thanks for link on Metzker.  Great point and brings back lots of memories.  I curated a show of his in '85, got to spend a day with him.  Nice to see his work standing the test of time.

I'm happy with FCP X, works for me.  I used for FCP 7 for about a year and found it frustrating, counterintuitive and very buggy. Going back and forth to Color was never smooth.  Reopening FCP 7 sometimes edits & titles would disappear.

I'm not doing multicam or Red, things that FCP X dropped the ball on from the get-go (but all since added.)  FCP X has gotten up to speed quickly.  FWIW, it does have dual windows now and has since last October.  Came with v10.0.6.  Color Correction is always in upper right and I've been able to easily create masks, set key frames, etc.  It also has some of the functionality copied by BulletProof built in.
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: bcooter on August 01, 2013, 03:43:59 pm
Jon thanks.

U might be right

X might  be better than I think

I've done 10 years on 7 and previous versions and find them rock solid not that slow (could be faster if 64 bit) but with a proper workflow it's fine and I can do  anything with 7.

I guess I'll give x another shot though I really think its nuts, changing all the basic naming and I still think there should be a rethink in Cupertino.

Speed, progress, a better image, faster workflow, I'm there, but changing the name of funcitons like sequences to projects, the ability to dive into a clip and see the adjustments inside, rather than from another window pane, just turns the nle world backwards.

For people that want to basic edit quick, X is fine, but I've talked to about everyone I know that really edits for a living and they just shake their head when you mention X.

I'm going to give it one more shot, under pressure and see how it works out, but if I can't do what I did before, I dunno. . . plan b.

IMO

BC

Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: Morgan_Moore on August 18, 2013, 05:54:39 am
Grey.

I have been playing in Resolve and I'm sure similar methodology is relevant to other suites - a click balance is almost not needed.

1) understand your waveform - a grey will display on it as white
2) tinkle your colour controls until this is true, your image is now balanced.

I did a screencast!

https://vimeo.com/72582560
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: bcooter on August 19, 2013, 10:28:27 am
Grey.

I have been playing in Resolve and I'm sure similar methodology is relevant to other suites - a click balance is almost not needed.

1) understand your waveform - a grey will display on it as white
2) tinkle your colour controls until this is true, your image is now balanced.

I did a screencast!

https://vimeo.com/72582560

I get it and thanks Morgan, but he all grading suites work similar.

What is needed, especailly for non raw, h264 footage is a stand alone suite with click white balance, some simple sliders (see lightroom or C-1), the ability to make corrections in batch, fine tune quickly and produce one light dailies into pro rezz or dpx.

See RED cinex.  Cinex may be one to one in processing, but you can set a hundred files, hit the button and let it work overnight, with a dedicated render card.

Now most are software based, using open cl and different processing engines in 64 bit, but where's the dropper like in fcp 7 3 way corrector?, wheres the auto function like in apple color? 

Those will get you to batch status quick, though clumsily and don't really batch out easily, without a lot of manual work.

Just like in stills. First you have to send out galleries in base color in knocked down h264 for web.  Then using the same settings go to pro res or dpx in 422.   

Unless I'm missing something, where's the render cards, and the settings?

Come on adobe, or someone (I have no hope for Apple in this), where is a way to produce one light dailies, in batch, quickly and then later work in the edl and rather than round trip have an embedded true cc tool like divinci that runs off a render card.

It's not the abilty to do any of the above, I can do it all in fcp 7 and using compressor.  The problem is in fcp7 it's all manual to produce a clip that has the same time code, and file name as the original out of camera footage.

Maybe there is something else out there, or a way to do this, but if so someone enlighten me.

Thank,

IMO

BC

Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: fredjeang2 on August 20, 2013, 03:39:32 am
Avid can do that,

Well...sort of (of course...)

Dropper, auto wb in 3 wheels is accurate
Without the need of roundtripping

The bad news (of course 2...) Is when segundaries
Are involved.

In terms of batching dailies with CC involved
It really only works as it should with Red material,
And only with Red.
You can build your editorial in the bins, apply in batch
The corrections to a selection of clips that correspond
To a particular look based on datas you create.
For ex: Natacha-kitchen-midday
Without touching the timeline. The corrections
Are applyied immediatly in the timeline (or not) and you can rework at any stage
And fine tune in batch too.
With the relink habilities and taking care on the naming
You can change the medias involved in the timeline,
For example Got my timeline filled with h.264 versions
Of the Red files. Hit relink---choose your media to relink---
Bang: all clips are replaced with the raw Red material.
And of course, vice versa, relink from Red to whatever
Version of the media.

In Avid, the key point is organization. Once you get
Used to be as organized as the french state administration,
And once you create your own metadatas, it's a joy.
At the minimum desorganization, it's hell.
The relink to different versions needs those versions
To be into separate bins. If you got 200 clips of prores444
And 200 clips of the .h264 versions, they need to be
Organized, and with the sub-organization (scene) and
Sub-sub-organization: as scene1 can be Natacha-kitchen
But scene1 can also be Peter-kitchen-contrejour (with
A different CC involved).

The custom renaming to more comprehensive naning
For the edit does not affect the processes. For ex, got a
Source file that is A00123. In the edit it means nothing
So I rename it (in Avid ! Never in the source folder): Natacha-fire-gun. But for Avid,
It is still A00123. As when versionings are created, source
Name should be untouched. There is A00123 prores 444
And A00123 .h264. Etc...

The holy trick for short clips is this:
Red material? : work with Red media and forget the proxies (so power needed)
Others: work with intermediate like dnx and relink in the end to the highest
Possible media (that could also be dnx but of highres)
With Red media, if not enough power is disponible
To work the R3d in real time, the trick is: book the edit
With proxies with no CC involved, relink to the R3d,
Then work the primaries CC with RCX, send to the color app for
Segundaries. But...do NOT work the primaries in rcx and
Create proxies from there, because it's a one-way-ticket.
That's really really important because too many people
Tend to jump on RCX at the very roots and then, create
Medias in batch. But the result of such an approach is
That they are stucked with it because media out of Raw
Can not be reverted, it has to be recreated.

So, if your clients says: I'd like the night-shots more
Towards the blue: do a correction, refresh timeline -
Bang - all the night-shots are corrected immediatly
In the edit, whereever they are. the other clips remaining
Untouched.

That's why I think it works best with Red because
The way Red implemented their system.
RCX becomes the primary CC tool of Avid. Having
RCX open does not affect the editor's performance
And it's way more friendly user to use RCX to correct,
And all what has to be generated is a RMD file.
I got folder of RMDs generated in RCX: scene1-natacha-kitchen,
scene1-peter-kitchen etc...
Those are the primaries CC done in rcx. All I have to do is
To import the RMDs and bang...CC into the timeline.
No hassle.
With no Red material, there is not this possibility.

By the way: the generated RMDs can be mailed.
And any system that can read them will work, like
PP for example.

Then the story is to send QT references to Squeeze so
The editor is not doing the transcodes if needed but
A dedicated app. The QT references differ in the sense
That it's only a link to the source and not a transcode
So creating a QT reference of your edit (included CC)
Only takes a few seconds and can be used and reused
By the trancoder software in batch during the night.
When the tasks are finished, it sends you an email.

So you can set different output in batch of the same
QT reference: for example: 1 output in Prores 444, and
1 output in h.264.
Nota: that works best for outputting.
To imput medias and transcode to.... Whatever,
It's not as well implemented as it should.

BUT...(of course 3...)
Avid is not resolution independant so if you want
To output more than HD, you need Resolve involved.
And, as Avid is only good in primary CC, a dedicated
Color app will be needed yes or yes at some point.
Because it's indeed possible to do complex CC within
Avid, tracking masks, layers blending etc etc...it's just
A pain in the ass.
Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: bcooter on August 20, 2013, 10:06:09 am
RED workflow is a combination of old think and new think.

They treat the Raw as a negative, Cinex X as one light dailies so you can get to pleasing , somewhat matching color per session, so at least when you set down to do editorial your not 20% of per clip, you matched up, even though your going to finish later.

Cinex only real omission is the ability to track and to do some basic single color channel effects.

All other precooked looks in h264 and even prorezz cameras consider what comes out of camera to be the first light dailies, though they know if you shoot h264 or some other codec you'll have to transcode into a higher bit rate codec.

Cinex could obviously be better, but it's not awful, at least it gets the basics done and does it within the same file name and structure, or allows you to change the file name to organize your scenes.

The ONE big upside is you can set all of your color from a shoot, then batch overnight automatically.

I know no other way to do this with any other suite. 

Yes I know with avid you can go from a sequence a rename, but your orignal file is lost back there in the shuffle.

Maybe not too bad, but not too good either when searching for the master.

You can do the same with apple color and it's a good suite, tracks, has predefined looks and will render a sequence out overnight.  It's just to make single clips that match your original you need a lot of hand work.

With apple color you can use the render files as new one light masters, but they have a different naming convention.

Think of this.  If lightroom or C-1 took all of your raws and would only process out in a sequence of jpegs, or tiffs, all with a different name.  File number 001.cr2 would become 001.jpg, 002, jpg etc.

That's fine if you organize per shot and never want to go back to the original, but who doesn't go back to the original footage, especially in 4k where you want to crop or change aspect ratio in an edit.

Workflow in digital video is old think.

IMO

BC

Title: Re: FCP X Plugin for grey dropper / color correction tool?
Post by: fredjeang2 on August 20, 2013, 11:24:01 am
With Avid, you never loose the reference to the
Source file.
Whatever the naming.
Because you decide what to display or not
In the bins but within the timeline itself.
In bins, I display columns that gives me the infos Ineed,
And in the timeline I generally display the media on a relink
As it gives me instant viewing of the resolution involved but the custom name during the editing

You can save bins display configs according to what you want to see. See the source file displayed here.
While the naming has been done unproperly

(http://709mediaroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Media-Tool.png)

now naming as been done well (but source file will remains intact)

(http://www.premiumbeat.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/sort-order1.jpg)

Go back to the original is instantaneous at any stage
Without even having to touch the timeline.

(http://s7.postimg.org/breyyy8wb/Screen_Shot_2013_07_23_at_1_15_36_PM.png)

And it's not passive, but active. You can actualy isolate and sort clips according to the parameters
you want and affect them.

(http://digitalfilms.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/df_avidpwrtips_2.jpg)

So, whatever media is created from the R3d, Avid will
Never loose the source file target at the condition
That those medias were created in Avid (or no mess have been done outside).
So yes, if it was resolution independant, you could
Just grap a portion of prores material, revert to the
R3d and crop...but...naaaaaa, no cropping possible.

And that's why it's particulary stupid and frustrating
Because as it's hd, it does not allow the 4k cropping.
So for one side, extremely well implemented media
Management in Avid, and stupudly limited by the resolution
Of HD...again and again, things that work the half way.

yeah, all that is old think.

Ps: about batching colors, yes. As the editor only Link the R3D, if any of the R3D metadata changed,
the changes are applied in the timeline but the timeline needs a refresh.
Is batch color from 1 shot possible within Avid without going RCX? yes, but with Red files and not
using the CC tools but the file settings tools wich only affect the raw datas, as RCX does.
Not possible to do that with AVCHD for ex.
With other media, the only possibility would be to color 1 clip, save the color to a name of your choice,
then grab manually all the clips you want this CC to be applied and drop the CC in the timeline. Not really automatized.