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Title: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: Radu Arama on May 01, 2013, 09:23:37 am
http://pentaximaging.com/about/press/303/PENTAX_ENHANCES_ITS_COMPETITIVE_OFFERINGS_WITH_A_HOST_OF_PRICE_REDUCTIONS_AND_INSTANT_REBATES

Also the price will come down in Europe too this time.

Radu
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: Ken R on May 01, 2013, 05:54:52 pm
Awesome!

I had the 645D and its a really good camera. Loved using it. Its possibly the most sorted out medium format SLR and the only fully integrated and weather sealed medium format digital camera made today. There should be more like it!
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: Lacunapratum on May 02, 2013, 01:12:33 am
Thanks for the heads-up, Radu!  Any news on the 645D II? 
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: heinrichvoelkel on May 02, 2013, 11:52:23 am
I don't see any price reduction over here in Germany. Yet. Do you know a timeframe? Regards

Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: torger on May 02, 2013, 12:35:58 pm
I think I see the price reduction in Sweden, here it costs €5500+VAT today, which is about $7200. A Canon 1DX costs €5200, ie almost the same... so it's nice that medium format is becoming this affordable, although it's a small sensor for being medium format.

However for us that like tech cameras it would be nice if Pentax would make a digital back... which of course won't happen  :-\. The IQ140 is still at €15000+VAT...
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: theguywitha645d on May 02, 2013, 01:20:39 pm
All sensors are "small" for being "medium format." 6x4.5 was often thought not much bigger than 35mm and was thought of as the "amateur" format. The 33x44 is a 1.26 crop factor from 6x4.5. The 22MP and 30MP sensors are 1.16 crop factors (I know Phase list them as 1.1, but here marketing is trumping math). Not a a lot of difference.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: torger on May 02, 2013, 01:34:10 pm
All sensors are "small" for being "medium format." 6x4.5 was often thought not much bigger than 35mm and was thought of as the "amateur" format. The 33x44 is a 1.26 crop factor from 6x4.5. The 22MP and 30MP sensors are 1.16 crop factors (I know Phase list them as 1.1, but here marketing is trumping math). Not a a lot of difference.

And then 1.27 down to 36x24... not a lot of difference there either :D . Quite small steps between the crops. I think Phase One compares their ~54x41mm "full-frame" (sort of) with P45+ ~49x37, that is about 1.1.

As long as image quality is good I don't care about format size though. Oh well, there's the ancient optical finders still (and ground glass for me!) and then it's nice to have every mm one can get... I thought the 48x36/49x37 format was extremely well balanced with the tech cam lenses, but unfortunately it's a bit too close to 54x41mm so I guess it had to go.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: BernardLanguillier on May 05, 2013, 09:11:51 pm
As long as image quality is good I don't care about format size though.

Very true. As an extreme example, at base ISO a Nikon V2 is very close in image quality to the original Canon 1Ds according to DxO mark, with the advantage of a lot more DoF which makes it a better landscape camera... The 1Ds was said to rival medium format film when released.

There is really little reason to demand larger sensors nowadays besides higher resolution... But A1 prints from a 645D are already freaking amazing for fine art applications... without even speaking of stitching.

Cheers,
Bernard
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: Steve Hendrix on May 07, 2013, 06:45:11 pm
Very true. As an extreme example, at base ISO a Nikon V2 is very close in image quality to the original Canon 1Ds according to DxO mark, with the advantage of a lot more DoF which makes it a better landscape camera... The 1Ds was said to rival medium format film when released.

There is really little reason to demand larger sensors nowadays besides higher resolution... But A1 prints from a 645D are already freaking amazing for fine art applications... without even speaking of stitching.

Cheers,
Bernard



I think there is plenty of demand for physically larger sensors than 645. Whether the market will pay for them in enough quantity remains to be seen.

**On a side note - Capture Integration is now a fully authorized Pentax dealer. We are expecting our 645D demo unit at our Atlanta office location sometime next week.


Steve Hendrix
Capture Integration
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: BernardLanguillier on May 07, 2013, 08:07:35 pm
**On a side note - Capture Integration is now a fully authorized Pentax dealer.

Smart move, good for you!

V1 is already excellent, V2 should be even better.

Cheers,
Bernard
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: tsjanik on May 07, 2013, 10:31:42 pm



.................**On a side note - Capture Integration is now a fully authorized Pentax dealer. We are expecting our 645D demo unit at our Atlanta office location sometime next week.


Steve Hendrix
Capture Integration

That's great news Steve.  I'm glad to see that you will be contributing comments about the 645D.  

Tom
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: Lacunapratum on May 08, 2013, 11:01:24 pm
This is just an awsome system and any price reduction is more than welcome.  Don't know whether I fall for a second body without knowing what the successor will hold. 
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: bcooter on May 09, 2013, 02:40:45 am
Smart move, good for you!

V1 is already excellent, V2 should be even better.


Does anyone know for sure that there will be a version 2?

I was told by a large Pentax dealer who was clearing product, that the next Pentax offering would be FF 35mm.

BTW:   Has anyone tried tethering jpegs to a computer using a wi-fi card?

I know one person that tried, but it didn't work.

Anyone else?

IMO

BC
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: MrSmith on May 09, 2013, 06:39:56 am
has anyone actually used the pentax tethering software? lots of info about it on the web but the only user experience i can find mentions 15second transfer time to a watched folder in C1 which is a bit of a joke for a professional camera.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: Ken R on May 09, 2013, 07:19:00 am
Hi!  I had the 645D for a few weeks and loved working with the camera. I had an eyeFi card on one of the slots and it worked perfectly transferring the small JPGs to my iPad directly without my laptop. It was awesome. Worked just like in my 5D3.

The camera is the best medium format DSLR as a camera body. Its fully weather sealed and the sensor cleaning works. I basically could use the camera just like I did my Canon DSLRs. Iso 1600 was usable and long exposures (I tried up to 30 sec) were very clean. Af was spot on and  Low iso image quality WHIPS any Canon DSLR silly. It has a touch less highlight recovery potential but its close and the shadow recovery is MUCH deeper.

The only weakness in the system are the lenses. The 25mm is super expensive (never tried it) but supposedly good. The 35mm FA (AF) is a so so lens (the 35mm A (Manual Focus) is better, and most lenses are very bad wide open but very good at f11-f16. I stuck to the f8-f16 range with f11 being the most used.

I did a few jobs with it and decided to sell it in favor of a phase back and tech camera setup. I wanted to keep it though and might buy one again in the future. If Pentax makes another version of this camera its gonna be a game changer for sure. That is if Canon doesnt release its 1DXS first. Even so the larger format does have a different look to it although it would be more so if there was some good fast glass to use it with.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: MrSmith on May 09, 2013, 07:25:07 am
and tethering with raw files sent to a laptop?
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: Ken R on May 09, 2013, 08:10:58 am
and tethering with raw files sent to a laptop?

Never tried tethering with the 645d.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: telyt on May 10, 2013, 10:44:50 am
Its possibly the most sorted out medium format SLR and the only fully integrated and weather sealed medium format digital camera made today.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'sorted out' but the Leica S sytem is fully integrated and is weather sealed, with more than just 2 weather-sealed lenses.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: theguywitha645d on May 10, 2013, 02:47:41 pm
I'm not sure what you mean by 'sorted out' but the Leica S sytem is fully integrated and is weather sealed, with more than just 2 weather-sealed lenses.

The Pentax system has more than two weather sealed lenses too! It is also the only MFD system with optical stabilization.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: FredBGG on May 10, 2013, 08:21:00 pm
The Pentax system has more than two weather sealed lenses too! It is also the only MFD system with optical stabilization.

Best metering, best AF and OS makes it the best hand held MF option.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: Lacunapratum on May 10, 2013, 09:16:06 pm
They are a wash.  Leica has certainly a more complete recent system, but Pentax has a larger overall system.  Leica has a broad range of leaf shutters and Pentax has one lens with optical stabilization, hopefully more in the future.  Looks like most of the Leica lenses are stellar (haven't test any) but the recent Pentax lenses come very close and most of the old ones are very good as well.  And all of it at half the price...
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: HarperPhotos on May 10, 2013, 09:23:05 pm
Hello,

I was talking to my local Phase One rep yesterday and he told me that Phase One is developing a completely new camera from the ground up to replace the Mamiya/Phase DF+.

Cheers

Simon
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: Lacunapratum on May 10, 2013, 10:47:10 pm
... about time...
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: Steve Hendrix on May 10, 2013, 10:58:34 pm
Hello,

I was talking to my local Phase One rep yesterday and he told me that Phase One is developing a completely new camera from the ground up to replace the Mamiya/Phase DF+.

Cheers

Simon


That is good the local P1 rep is aware. It has been public news for at least a year. The most recent delivery expectations are late 2013/early to mid 2014 (that's where I'd place my bet).


Steve Hendrix
Capture Integration
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: leeonmaui on May 11, 2013, 01:33:04 am
Aloha,

There are just too many awesome cameras around now!
I first jumped into digital with the 1ds mark 2 for all its flaws it was a pretty nice camera, and built like a tank, cleaning the sensor was an exercise requiring the direct services of a zen master! and no less than 50 dollars of cleaning supplies! lol
Now most of the higher end digital 35mm bodies are pretty stellar.
Who isn't temped by the D800E?

Loving my Pentax 645D
Really interested to see what the mark 2 version is all about.
Worried that the price will be much higher though.

In regards to AF being perfect, I might have a few words about that.
Great lenses, check mark on that.

I hope they;
work on tracking speed of AF
work on low light AF
Work on the tolerances on the MF confirm, cause that seems hit or miss, and at times down right confusing!
Work on high ISO image quality, its still pretty poor, regardless of what everybody says.
Give an option of building a black screen noise reduction or not-in bulb over 30 seconds.
Work on frame rate and write times, cause its pretty slow, even for landscape work.

lenses;
Tilt and shift lens, that would be Great!
The 25mm is really nice, but $4500 dollars ouuuchhhh!

Given the cost of building out a really deep MF system, nothing else even comes close in regards to price, and who else has 300mm, 400mm (excellent by the way see attached image and cost about $1200 bucks or traded for three prints like I did :-)) and 600mm offerings?

Someone mentioned Leica, you hit the $50,000 mark pretty quick given the cost of the body- at $21000 and lenses costing $6000-$10000 each...


Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: telyt on May 11, 2013, 02:15:22 am
... see attached image...

Rather significant fringing in that photo.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: leeonmaui on May 11, 2013, 03:38:17 am
Aloha,

I'll probably chase it out if I publish the piece...
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: leeonmaui on May 11, 2013, 03:40:22 am
Aloha,

in the jpg, not so much in the print proofs either...
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: RFPhotography on May 11, 2013, 09:04:19 am
Lee, you can set up your own dark frame reference set then use them in PS to do the same thing as dark frame noise reduction in camera.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: tsjanik on May 11, 2013, 09:15:39 am
Rather significant fringing in that photo.

I don't see the fringing.  I see some funky artifacts at the edges of the peaks and the image has a strong overall magenta cast (on my screen) which causes shadows to have a purple tint.  In my experience with the 400mm FA, it exhibits very little fringing and is easily corrected in ACR.

Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: theguywitha645d on May 11, 2013, 12:44:18 pm
Rather significant fringing in that photo.

???? Where?
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: Lacunapratum on May 11, 2013, 03:21:22 pm
Well, I just took delivery of my 90mm macro, even though I tried to resist the temptation for about a year.  You can get them for about $3.K from the Mitsuba store in Japan, depending on the daily exchange rate.  Which compares favorably to the 4.5K B&H charges and $5K at Adorama.  I guess the only caveat is that I'd have to send it back to Japan if something goes wrong with the lens. 

What an awsome lens!  I'd love a 180mm or 200mm version though.   
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: leeonmaui on May 11, 2013, 04:33:34 pm
Aloha,

I know about "black screens"
The problem is that for exposures over 30 seconds the pentax automatically builds one and does an in camera noise reduction, it would be nice if we could turn that off and do our own.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: leeonmaui on May 11, 2013, 04:34:47 pm
Dude, post some images from the 90mm!!

hows the DOF?
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: leeonmaui on May 11, 2013, 04:46:49 pm
The 400mm rocks!

I tend to see lots of artifacts in jpgs that I process for the web, but it doesn't bother me much as my goal is prints. I took delivery of all my proofs yesterday, in the 30 inch proof it's  pretty clean, I'll most likely do a noise reduction on it as there are some issues in the sky, very slight, and hardly noticeable.
I normally don't use a noise reduction unless I really have to, as the gain of smoothness is traded for a very slight overall blurring of detail.

Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: tsjanik on May 11, 2013, 04:53:43 pm
Well, I just took delivery of my 90mm macro, even though I tried to resist the temptation for about a year.  You can get them for about $3.K from the Mitsuba store in Japan, depending on the daily exchange rate.  Which compares favorably to the 4.5K B&H charges and $5K at Adorama.  I guess the only caveat is that I'd have to send it back to Japan if something goes wrong with the lens. 

What an awsome lens!  I'd love a 180mm or 200mm version though.   

That's pretty exciting.  How did you go through the Mitsuba store? I did a search and can't find it.  I have noticed that the 25mm is available in Japan for around $4k.

Be sure to post some shots.

Tom
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: Lacunapratum on May 11, 2013, 08:31:16 pm
You order it through Rakuten:  http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/mitsuba/item/pentax_fa645-macro_90mmf2-8/?s-id=borderless_browsehist_02_en

Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: Lacunapratum on May 19, 2013, 08:10:35 pm
I have attached an image shot with the 90mm.  I have had some time to compare it to others (P67 100mm macro, P645 120mm macro, Printing Nikkor 95mm, and Schneider Makro-Symmar 120mm), and I am afraid that while it is an outstanding lens, the other four listed here are also exceptional.  In fact, there is no clear winner in a side by side comparison.  The AF is fairly slow when compared to the 120mm and the bokeh of both 120mm lenses appears to be more pleasing in this particular test.   I should add that I tested all lenses only at f/11, and performance at different apertures may vary.  

Here is the summary of my test - other opinions may differ:  The lens is very well made, the 2.8 aperture is a nice benefit, it's sharp already at 2.8, image stabilizer and autofocus are definetely a plus, and the 90mm focal length may be attractive in some situations.   On the downside, the autofocus is fairly slow and the 90mm focal length gets you very close to the subject, especially in many macro situations.  As I said, these are my experiences.  I am glad I paid $3.5K for it and not $5K.  It is a stellar lens, but so are the others.    At another time I'll check how it holds up against the Schneider 90mm.  

Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: larkis on May 19, 2013, 10:27:48 pm
Could you do some shots with it during magic hour or twilight ? I have the 120mm macro and I find that while the older lenses are sharp, the differences tend to be in other areas such as the rendering of colours under certain circumstances. The images from the older lenses have a bit of a "retro" feel to them compared to the new line of lenses. I'm not sure if this has to do with the new types of coatings but some colours don't render the same. I have both the new 55mm, and the 25mm and they are a lot closer visually than the 120mm, 150mm and the 300mm. I'm very interested in picking up the 90mm but I'm not sure where pentax is heading with their medium format offering at the moment so i'm not eager to invest until I hear something from the company.

On another note, does anyone on this forum close to pentax know why the company is pretty much useless at marketing themselves ? Phase for example makes videos and profiles of some of their more established users in order to give their brand credibility, why not pentax ? I'm sure there are some talented photographers who have had success using pentax gear that could be showcased.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: hasselbladfan on May 21, 2013, 08:39:45 am
Any news about the 645D II?
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: theguywitha645d on May 21, 2013, 11:44:53 am
On another note, does anyone on this forum close to pentax know why the company is pretty much useless at marketing themselves ? Phase for example makes videos and profiles of some of their more established users in order to give their brand credibility, why not pentax ? I'm sure there are some talented photographers who have had success using pentax gear that could be showcased.

That is interesting. Marketing does not mean anything to me. Put any camera in the hands of a good photographer and you will get good results. The fact that camera companies try to imply it was their gear is disingenuous. I have never bought a camera because of pretty marketing pictures.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: TMARK on May 21, 2013, 03:09:51 pm
That is interesting. Marketing does not mean anything to me. Put any camera in the hands of a good photographer and you will get good results. The fact that camera companies try to imply it was their gear is disingenuous. I have never bought a camera because of pretty marketing pictures.

While I agree with you, nothing moves merch like marketing, branding, etc.  Its not a bad thing as long as its true to the product and consumer.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: tsjanik on May 21, 2013, 04:26:54 pm

.........On another note, does anyone on this forum close to pentax know why the company is pretty much useless at marketing themselves ? Phase for example makes videos and profiles of some of their more established users in order to give their brand credibility, why not pentax ? I'm sure there are some talented photographers who have had success using pentax gear that could be showcased.

Word-of-mouth is the best advertising and keep in mind who pays for expensive marketing.  
Many ad campaigns backfire as well.  It was years before I forgot my distaste for Canon’s Image is Everything campaign directed at young people (corollary: real substance is not necessary, just look good).

I must admit their advertising is not a strong point, but things may change under Ricoh.  I would much prefer they reopen the repair facility in Colorado to better advertising.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: TMARK on May 21, 2013, 04:34:45 pm
Word-of-mouth is the best advertising and keep in mind who pays for expensive marketing. 
Many ad campaigns backfire as well.  It was years before I forgot my distaste for Canon’s Image is Everything campaign directed at young people (corollary: real substance is not necessary, just look good).


That was an illconceived campaign.  Bad strategy.  Its like it wasn't copy tested.

Word of mouth is most effective, but branding, as opposed to marketing, builds a perception in the mind of a potential consumer, who then may buy the product, or at least try it, and if the product is good, then comes word of mouth.  Branding is like an incubator of good will, it snowballs into eventual sales.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: tsjanik on May 21, 2013, 05:54:24 pm
True enough, but branding is harder to establish.  I think Pentax is living off the branding they acquired with film cameras, certainly none of us who ordered a 645D 2.5 years ago had been swayed by any ads.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: theguywitha645d on May 21, 2013, 08:14:13 pm
But pitching a $7K or $10k camera is very different from a $700 or $1k one. I think a certain level, advertising is just noise. The spec sheet at the back of the brochure is more important than the cover image.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: Lacunapratum on May 21, 2013, 11:02:40 pm
It's an incredible deal at $7K.  Pentax is at the verge of having a more complete MFD system, especially with the three new lenses.  I guess at this point many of the others would have launched an aggressive advertising campain.  Perhaps Pentax is waiting for the 645Dii or they want to introduce a couple of new zoom lenses together with the system. 

The Pentax Gallery is a wonderful online way to promote the brand.  The system would get more of a response if there'd be a few more new lenses.  The three lenses I'd like to see are the wide angle zoom, a shift lens, and a fast portrait lens.  A 180mm or 200mm macro would be a dream, but I realize it's an unusual request.  They could learn a few lessons from Leica in terms of marketing as Leica also started with a fairly small system.  Pentax certainly should advertise the possibility to use lenses via adapters in combination with a reasonably priced body, including the P67 lenses, M39 macro lenses, and many others. 
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: theguywitha645d on May 22, 2013, 12:13:44 am
Well, with the Ricoh marketing team, what could go wrong?

Actually, we will have to see what happens with this new partnership. Both Pentax and Ricoh have kind of retreated into the Japanese market over the years. Ricoh with the GR series was a cult brand. Pentax has just been fading. Hopefully, the merger will get them energized. But like Sony with Konica Minolta, it might take a little while to find their direction. Certainly, the 645D system gives them some distinction.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: tsjanik on May 22, 2013, 08:59:01 am

.............  The three lenses I'd like to see are the wide angle zoom, a shift lens, and a fast portrait lens.  A 180mm or 200mm macro would be a dream, but I realize it's an unusual request.  They could learn a few lessons from Leica in terms of marketing as Leica also started with a fairly small system.  Pentax certainly should advertise the possibility to use lenses via adapters in combination with a reasonably priced body, including the P67 lenses, M39 macro lenses, and many others. 

I agree that the zoom would be nice.  You want a faster lens than the 90mm f2.8?  You could use the Hasselblad f2.2.
As for shift lenses, you can use the 67 45mm or 55mm with an adapter

http://www.zoerk.com/pages/p_pshift.htm

 
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: Lacunapratum on May 22, 2013, 08:59:22 pm
I have several fast portrait lenses for the 645, including a Schneider Goettingen Xenon 12.5cm/f2 and a Leitz Hektor 12.5cm/2.5.  I don't like the short focal length of the Hasselblad.  My dream lens would be a modern autofocus 150mm/2.  I am not sure whether the Pentax bayonet mount would be able to handle it.  But such a lens would get me excited, even though it might be heavy.

I also have the P67 45mm in Zoerk mount, but the mount is not mechanically all that satisfying and the lens only sharpens up at F11.  Which is anyway what you would use most of the time, but it's still one of the weaker ones. 
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: tsjanik on May 22, 2013, 09:52:25 pm
You might want to try the 67 55mm.  Most regard the 3rd version as one of the best 67 lenses. 
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: Lacunapratum on May 22, 2013, 10:12:02 pm
I know.  I was hoping for a 45mm.  Having said that, I am pretty happy with the Pentax system, otherwise.  And whatever the Pentax system does not cover, the Rollei Hy6 system does.  55mm Schneider Superangulon Shift, 110mm Planar, 180mm Tele-Xenar. 
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: larkis on May 23, 2013, 12:24:58 am
That is interesting. Marketing does not mean anything to me. Put any camera in the hands of a good photographer and you will get good results. The fact that camera companies try to imply it was their gear is disingenuous. I have never bought a camera because of pretty marketing pictures.

I agree, it does not mean much to me either but it sure does to a lot of other people. If a company can stay financially healthy because a lot of misguided people buy into marketing hype it's good for both the company and the people who have invested in their equipment and actually use it. I want Pentax to do well and I think they should do more for brand awareness.
Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: RFPhotography on May 23, 2013, 09:01:43 am
I agree that the zoom would be nice.  You want a faster lens than the 90mm f2.8?  You could use the Hasselblad f2.2.
As for shift lenses, you can use the 67 45mm or 55mm with an adapter

http://www.zoerk.com/pages/p_pshift.htm

 

But where can you buy the adapter and what does it cost?  None of that information is on the Zork site, which is one of the worst designed sites out there.  It's up there with Hartblei.

Title: Re: Pentax 645D now 7K USD
Post by: tsjanik on May 23, 2013, 09:25:30 am
Try here (no personal experience):

http://usa.zoerk.com/pages/contact_US.htm