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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: cjogo on February 02, 2013, 10:00:08 am

Title: Street Musican
Post by: cjogo on February 02, 2013, 10:00:08 am
MONTMARTE Paris --Tripod mounted --Hassy with 150mm --geeze ;D you think I would learn to shoot a little more candid> I think of how many people I have frightened setting up all my gear
Title: Re: Street Musican
Post by: RedwoodGuy on February 03, 2013, 11:43:33 pm
It's the kind of photograph I like with lots of character in this fellow but the flat lighting makes it a bit dull and documentary feeling. I also have to wonder, with all that flat lit granite if you might just tighten the shot right to his shoulders and make it about the face?
Title: Re: Street Musican
Post by: mac_paolo on February 04, 2013, 03:45:01 am
These are the cases when even an Hassy can't solve an harsh light  :-\
Nice composition though. :)
Title: Re: Street Musican
Post by: RedwoodGuy on February 04, 2013, 08:23:23 pm
These are the cases when even an Hassy can't solve an harsh light  :-\
Nice composition though. :)
That's true - no camera can. But, once you have that image, you can print it in a way to make the best of it.
Title: Re: Street Musican
Post by: cjogo on February 04, 2013, 09:54:38 pm
Here's a cropped version --- he's seemingly not  as one with the open surroundings of his "spot" he sits daily > a little more grandeur , for sure.
Title: Re: Street Musican
Post by: RedwoodGuy on February 04, 2013, 10:10:04 pm
This plays a lot nicer for me. In fact - and you may think it is heresy - but I would have come in even tighter. It's ok if you cut off some arm or a little hat at the top. Anyway, much more pleasing. And, if you get better light, go back and shoot him again.
Title: Re: Street Musican
Post by: cjogo on February 05, 2013, 12:11:53 am
This plays a lot nicer for me. In fact - and you may think it is heresy - but I would have come in even tighter. It's ok if you cut off some arm or a little hat at the top. Anyway, much more pleasing. And, if you get better light, go back and shoot him again.
I guess the part of the strength ,of the image,  is his hands and the trench coat ..so wanted to use those features included with his face/smile.  This was in 96 > doubt if he is still around in Montmarte  ;D  And this is the exact light I look for in portrait >> 80 % overcast= with slight edge of lite falling >  all the better for me ..
Title: Re: Street Musican
Post by: RedwoodGuy on February 05, 2013, 01:02:30 am
I think this final version is the best and gets right to the point of this guy. I think it is the best you could do with the flat light.
Title: Re: Street Musican
Post by: Peter McLennan on February 05, 2013, 10:42:06 am
Those crops are too tight, IMHO.  The last one is more about the accordion than the musician.  I would crop halfway between the hat and the the horizontal line on the wall and leave the width alone.

Lighting is perfect.  Key light well positioned, perhaps a tiny bit too much fill, but easily corrected in post.

Great image. Timeless.

Title: Re: Street Musican
Post by: cjogo on February 05, 2013, 02:14:53 pm
Thanks for all the comments ~!

I guess I saw the vertical lines of the bellows & chair legs  :>: flowing with the walls verticals... 

And the keyboard :: keeping the horizontal lines in tact with the wall blocks and the ends of his jacket corners keeping the continuity
Title: Re: Street Musican
Post by: Peter McLennan on February 05, 2013, 07:25:51 pm
Near perfect.  I'd darken the BG corners at the top of frame a tad.  ("Vignette")

Still loving it.

Title: Re: Street Musican
Post by: francois on February 06, 2013, 04:52:05 am
I prefer the last version, the tight cropped image feels cramped. Peter has a point regarding vignetting…
Title: Re: Street Musican
Post by: amolitor on February 06, 2013, 02:15:35 pm
Did you dodge his face a lot? The shadows on his face feel too open to me.

Otherwise, I quite like it, he's a photogenic fellow.
Title: Re: Street Musican
Post by: cjogo on February 06, 2013, 03:02:33 pm
Did you dodge his face a lot? The shadows on his face feel too open to me.

Otherwise, I quite like it, he's a photogenic fellow.


No >  that was the light --- I metered to have the highlights fall with detail & shadows on his face were all manipulated in the processing of the film .... I thought there was a good black and wide array of the full greys ..