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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Printing: Printers, Papers and Inks => Topic started by: IWC Doppel on January 18, 2013, 02:08:44 pm

Title: media type settings
Post by: IWC Doppel on January 18, 2013, 02:08:44 pm
Watching the LuLa videos for Camera to Print and Screen I saw an option for media type in the print settings of an epson printer that showed media type 'Cold press natural' I do not have that option when printing on my epson 3880, I re read the manual and I should.

My fine art media type options are only velvet, watercolor and ultrasmooth, any ideas ?
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: Randy Carone on January 18, 2013, 02:37:21 pm
Make certain that you have updated your driver to one that includes CPNW and the others in the series. If it does not offer these choices Ultrasmooth Fine Art Paper, Paper Thickness of 5 and Platen Gap to Auto.
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: afx on January 18, 2013, 02:40:40 pm
My fine art media type options are only velvet, watercolor and ultrasmooth, any ideas ?
You have a European driver...

cheers
afx
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: IWC Doppel on January 18, 2013, 03:32:11 pm
I have updated my driver and LR to 4.3 still the same  :(

Any help as to how I might attain the right driver or gain assistance for media type options ?
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: Schewe on January 18, 2013, 06:33:16 pm
I have updated my driver and LR to 4.3 still the same  :(

You have updated your driver to what version? From what web site? Where?
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: IWC Doppel on January 19, 2013, 06:09:50 am
LR 4.3 from adobe http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/thankyou.jsp?ftpID=5520&fileID=5534
The print driver from epson site(UK) http://www.epson.co.uk/gb/en/viewcon/corporatesite/products/mainunits/support/11279 version 9.04, I also downloaded the MAc OSX common updater

I am on Mac Lion 10.7.5
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: afx on January 19, 2013, 06:42:28 am
The EU drivers do not show the Hot/Cold Press papers.
And if you load the ICC profiles for those papers from the EU sever for those papers, there is a PDF that tells you what paper setting to use instead.
I've just been through that process.

cheers
afx
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: IWC Doppel on January 19, 2013, 07:03:48 am
But I print mostly B&W and use ABW mode  >:(
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: afx on January 19, 2013, 09:11:47 am
But I print mostly B&W and use ABW mode  >:(
You still need the profile...

cheers
afx
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: IWC Doppel on January 19, 2013, 09:52:05 am
Afx, hi

Having done a lot of reading I know I need to set LR to managed by printer and the chan for example ABW icc's will not work. I do have a icc for cold press natural but using ABW mode I cannot set the media type to the correct setting and use velvet fine art as a compromise. Interesting if the icc when managing colour outside the printer overwrites the menus type settings if I understand the above, but that does unfortunately not help me in ABW mode

Am I misunderstanding your comment on profile ?

My workflow is DNG to Lr4 then to epson 3880 I don't use photoshop by the way.
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: Alan Goldhammer on January 19, 2013, 11:21:31 am
To clear up the confusion, ABW profiles can be created for WinOS but not AppleOS machines.  The only way to do this is to use Roy Harrington's QTR software.  This helps to linearize the B/W curve and the effect is very subtle.  The Epson color profiles have no effect on this at all.  This still does not solve your problem in terms of selecting the media type.  Why Epson do not supply this on their ex-US website (you don't say where you downloaded the new driver package from) is beyond me.  Perhaps an e-mail to Epson support is in order.  When the driver update came out in the US, I downloaded it and it contained all the current Epson paper type settings.
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: IWC Doppel on January 19, 2013, 12:37:53 pm
Even more curious, I downloaded from the UK site, the file name and driver detail is identical from the US site. So they are now seemingly loading the same driver v8.64

The UK site has version 9.04 and 8.64, I downloaded 9.04 then 8.64 my driver says version 8.64 but in the detail of the printer utility it says 'Version 8.64 (9.04)'

Either way the site points to the same software on the same web page, I might uninstall and reinstall
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: IWC Doppel on January 19, 2013, 01:09:39 pm
I have just downloaded the US site driver and it is the same
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: Alan Goldhammer on January 19, 2013, 02:36:32 pm
I have just downloaded the US site driver and it is the same
It must be an AppleOS issue then since I'm on Win7 and my driver is 6.60 and it includes the new Epson hot and cold press papers as separate selections.
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: Hydrology on January 19, 2013, 08:45:07 pm
ABW guys?
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: hugowolf on January 19, 2013, 10:12:46 pm
ABW guys?
Advanced Black and White driver.

Brian A
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: IWC Doppel on February 15, 2013, 07:51:32 am
Still no joy here, my repsonse from Epson was to use ultrasmooth fine art and a cold press icc....... I did say I was using the ABW driver...
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: Ernst Dinkla on February 15, 2013, 12:04:52 pm
For the Natural versions you could check what Papergraphics and Sihl provide in profiles and media setting instructions for respectively Papergraphics Smooth Fine Art 310gsm and Sihl 4852 Masterclass Smooth Matte Cotton 320gsm + the 4853 Textured version.

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Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: IWC Doppel on February 18, 2013, 04:34:21 pm
Still confused here  :-[

I had a long conversation with Epson, thye sent me an e-mail with more icc down loads.............

I WANT media types all I can obtain with the ABW driver is Velvet fine art, ultra smooth fine are and water-colour .......

I'll call again tomorrow
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: Schewe on February 18, 2013, 06:12:45 pm
I WANT media types all I can obtain with the ABW driver is Velvet fine art, ultra smooth fine are and water-colour .......

Some media options change based on the paper feed path you select. I'm pretty sure the ho/cold press papers need to be loaded in the rear or front manual feed slot. Change the paper path in the driver and see if you can select the additional media types.
Title: Re: media type settings
Post by: IWC Doppel on February 19, 2013, 01:56:44 am
Thanks I'll try. It's obviously not from the rear as I feed it that way