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Equipment & Techniques => Landscape & Nature Photography => Topic started by: shaunw on December 07, 2012, 04:39:49 pm

Title: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: shaunw on December 07, 2012, 04:39:49 pm
Drove to the Peak District last week end well before dawn in the dark wind and rain thinking there's nothing on today, dawn was a non event....but i caught this one later on, enjoying the winter light.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8205/8250031951_225d2357b4_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skwalby/8250031951/)
Great Ridge...Peak District National Park England (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skwalby/8250031951/) by Shaun Walby Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/skwalby/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: shaunw on December 08, 2012, 04:21:02 am
loaded too bright

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8205/8250031951_be58becaaa_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skwalby/8250031951/)
Great Ridge...Peak District National Park England (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skwalby/8250031951/) by Shaun Walby Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/skwalby/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: Walt Roycraft on December 08, 2012, 08:02:34 am
Beautiful light!

I would suggest cloning out the pole, very distracting for me.
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: framah on December 08, 2012, 09:45:58 am
Agree... without the pole, the tree on the ridge takes on more significance.  The fence drives you in till it hits the pole. Without it, the drive continues to the tree in the distance.
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: shaunw on December 08, 2012, 12:36:21 pm
Walt & Framah...thanks; yer it does interfere with the transition/flow of the lead in line doesn't it....i think a nibble to take the post level with the horizon allows natural flow to be resumed? i could get rid completely...but its a big job, the post has x3 strands barbed wire attached...not so apparent here in the low res Jpeg.

Shaun

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x434/belaybob1/mastercolourclone4749-Edit.jpg)
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on December 08, 2012, 01:04:32 pm
I think that's much better: could you perhaps get rid of the remaining tiny whitish bit at the top of the pole?. The light is really lovely.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: bill t. on December 08, 2012, 02:30:13 pm
I suspect you were trying to make the wall a major player in this image.  But the fact that we seem to be zeroing in on the distant tree as the central element undermines your good intentions.  Go back and shoot it with the camera centered over the road, which will then lead mysteriously towards the distant, portentous tree.  My personal pedantic rule is, if there is a path in the scene it had better darned well point toward the viewer.  That will make everybody here happy, and you may be able to hide the pole behind the wall, saving many minutes of rubber stamping.   :)

But I don't really mind the pole, and this picture is nice enough as is.  Makes me want to go out and take desolate wintery shots that no gallery would ever want to show, but which would feed my inner Nordic Person.
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: Colorado David on December 08, 2012, 10:01:52 pm
I think that's much better: could you perhaps get rid of the remaining tiny whitish bit at the top of the pole?. The light is really lovely.

Jeremy

I personally don't like to have objects line up perfectly with the horizon.  A little above or a little below is fine but a perfect alignment bothers me for some reason.  It's a pet peeve of mine.  I don't always see it while shooting which then bothers me in post.

However, this is a beautiful shot with beautiful light.
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: wolfnowl on December 09, 2012, 01:56:33 am
Walt & Framah...thanks; yer it does interfere with the transition/flow of the lead in line doesn't it....i think a nibble to take the post level with the horizon allows natural flow to be resumed? i could get rid completely...but its a big job, the post has x3 strands barbed wire attached...not so apparent here in the low res Jpeg.

Shaun

VERY nice.  I'd leave it as you have it.  The post blends into the background nicely.

Mike.
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: francois on December 09, 2012, 04:44:01 am
VERY nice.  I'd leave it as you have it.  The post blends into the background nicely.

Mike.

I'm with Mike. I like it very much…
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: Walt Roycraft on December 09, 2012, 09:17:51 am
New version=Better

Just have to say it again....Beautiful light. Well done.
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: shaunw on December 09, 2012, 09:56:50 am
Jeremy Bill, David, Mike, Francois & Walt....thanks for taking the time guys. Points i'll return comment on.....i like the light in this one its what made me stop and start considering making an image. The main focal aspect of the image? i guess thats for each viewer to make his/her own mind up...for me personally its not all about the wall however its not exactly ugly is it, it has a job as a lead in line so how it leads the eye through the scene is important, i think the fence pole nibbled off level with the horizon works best and the image as a whole comes together fairly well for me.

Yer iam happy with it where it is .......for now ;D
thanks

Shaun
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on December 10, 2012, 04:39:21 am
I like the light a lot, and I don´t mind the pole at all. What does not work for me is that the wall on the left and the road on the right are converging towards... a tiny little tree that is too far away to make an impact...
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: Walt Roycraft on December 10, 2012, 05:55:03 am
I like the light a lot, and I don´t mind the pole at all. What does not work for me is that the wall on the left and the road on the right are converging towards... a tiny little tree that is too far away to make an impact...

I guess it's the beauty is in the eye thing, because the tree, small and all alone is VERY significant to me.
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: Chris Calohan on December 10, 2012, 07:58:19 am
The first time I looked at this image, i saw it as a B&W. The pole was distracing but the clone took crap of that and while I found a nice coloring to the light, it didn't particularly make me yearn for a walk in the motherland - well, actually I am more Scottish than English but you get the drift.

However, when I converted it to a B&W, I immediately began packing my bags.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8058/8260216003_3c2eaffd2c_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: sdwilsonsct on December 10, 2012, 08:55:30 am
I like both, but the B+W has a lot more impact imho.
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: shaunw on December 10, 2012, 09:51:18 am
Well Scott great minds and all that....my intention was to convert it  just to beat me to it....here's my version in mono

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8072/8258130324_73f955e7ed_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skwalby/8258130324/)
Great Ridge....peak district mono (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skwalby/8258130324/) by Shaun Walby Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/skwalby/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: shaunw on December 10, 2012, 09:53:13 am
you'll notice ive changed my point of view a little for this one.
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: PDobson on December 10, 2012, 11:22:00 am
I prefer the way that last one leads the eye.

Phillip
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on December 11, 2012, 03:34:12 am
Well Scott great minds and all that....my intention was to convert it  just to beat me to it....here's my version in mono

I'd like to see this one in colour. I love b&w, but I think here it loses something essential about the light.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: popnfresh on December 11, 2012, 01:15:46 pm
I much prefer the vista in the last one.
Title: Re: Winter Light....Peak District
Post by: shaunw on December 12, 2012, 01:37:17 pm
Popnfresh Jeremy and Phillip...thanks for taking the time guys.