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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: mtomalty on November 01, 2012, 01:26:09 pm

Title: Third party lens 45-55mm for Leica S2
Post by: mtomalty on November 01, 2012, 01:26:09 pm

Against my better judgement, I'm about to pull the trigger on either an S2 or S.
To keep it within a reasonable realm of affordability, the system will be rounded out with a couple of
third party lenses via adapters.
Primary use will be scenic imagery where apertures will often fall into the f11.5- f16.5 range.

Will be getting 30, 70, and 120 macro from Leica and round out with something in 45-55mm and probably a Mamiya 645 200 2.8apo

Need suggestions for a quality option in the 45-55mm range that won't get 'lost' on the S2 sensor.
I suppose it comes down to the Hass 50mm Mkll for H (but adapter alone is over $2K) or something 'vintage' from Mamiya 645 or Pentax 645
Pentax 67 and Hass V are also options but know very little about those system optics and their quality
The Metabones adapters I intend to use require an aperture ring to function as electronics aren't enabled so nothing current is an option

Thx for your opinions

Mark
Title: Re: Third party lens 45-55mm for Leica S2
Post by: yaya on November 01, 2012, 01:58:09 pm
The Mamiya 50mm shift might be an interesting solution ;)
Title: Re: Third party lens 45-55mm for Leica S2
Post by: TMARK on November 01, 2012, 04:02:39 pm
Wasn't there a Zeiss 50 2.8 F lens for the Hass. V?  The old F4 C T* version stands up well to the 39mpx CFV39 back.  Should do fine on the S2.
Title: Re: Third party lens 45-55mm for Leica S2
Post by: Stefan.Steib on November 01, 2012, 05:04:35 pm
Mark

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Hasselblad-CFi-50mm-f4-0-FLE-Distagon-T-Manual-Focus-Lens-/120771545260?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item1c1e8b88ac

the adapter could be this one

http://www.ebay.de/itm/New-Kipon-adapter-for-Hasselblad-V-to-Leica-S2-S2-P-/310320606512?pt=AU_Cameras_Photographic_Accessories&hash=item48408cad30

the last CFI Distagon is a very sharp lens, if you want more focusing comfort and the 1 stop plus the older 2,8/50 is even cheaper

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Carl-Zeiss-Distagon-T-50mm-F2-8-TCC-Databus-f-Hasselblad-F-202-203-205-2003-/380499166696?pt=DE_Foto_Camcorder_Objektive&hash=item58978485e8

I think you would be very happy with the 4.0/50mm CFi

Regards
Stefan
Title: Re: Third party lens 45-55mm for Leica S2
Post by: ondebanks on November 01, 2012, 05:33:24 pm
Will be getting 30, 70, and 120 macro from Leica and round out with something in 45-55mm and probably a Mamiya 645 200 2.8apo

First of all, I'm envious  ;D

Definitely get the M645 200/2.8 APO. Also, the 24mm ULD fisheye is an optical treat. I use both of these.

The 50/4 shift is said to be very good, but only from about f/8 down.

If you want something faster and sharper at wider stops, there have been 6 different M645 45/2.8 and 55/2.8 lenses (C, S, and N for each focal length). Of the three I've tried (45 C, 45 S, 55 N) the 45 S seems to be the best at or close to wide open, and like anything else, it gets better stopped down. I haven't shot a lot with it yet, but from what I've seen, I like its bokeh too.

Ray
Title: Re: Third party lens 45-55mm for Leica S2
Post by: ondebanks on November 01, 2012, 06:29:21 pm
One other thing - the S2/S is a compact, nimble camera, a lightweight (in the best sense of the word) as far as MFD goes.
So you'll probably want to pair it with light lenses, as far as possible.

The Hasselblad 50/2.8 weighs 1.0 - 1.2 kg (depending on the version).

The M645 45/2.8 and 55/2.8 wideangles are all under half of that - even the metal-barreled C and S types. The 55 N is the lightest, at just 305g! The 45 C is the heaviest, at 540g.

Heck, at 800g, even the 55-110/4.5 N zoom would be fun! Do Leica offer a zoom for the S yet?

Ray

Title: Re: Third party lens 45-55mm for Leica S2
Post by: mtomalty on November 02, 2012, 12:39:06 am

Thanks for the suggestions everyone.
Will do my homework with these in mind.

Ray. Leica announced a 30-90 at Photokina this year in addition to a 24mm.

Mark
Title: Re: Third party lens 45-55mm for Leica S2
Post by: TMARK on November 02, 2012, 09:13:17 am
First of all, I'm envious  ;D

Definitely get the M645 200/2.8 APO. Also, the 24mm ULD fisheye is an optical treat. I use both of these.

The 50/4 shift is said to be very good, but only from about f/8 down.

If you want something faster and sharper at wider stops, there have been 6 different M645 45/2.8 and 55/2.8 lenses (C, S, and N for each focal length). Of the three I've tried (45 C, 45 S, 55 N) the 45 S seems to be the best at or close to wide open, and like anything else, it gets better stopped down. I haven't shot a lot with it yet, but from what I've seen, I like its bokeh too.

Ray

Yes, the Mamiya 55-N is a really fantastic lens.  The 45AF lens, which I believe is the same optical formula as the 45-N MF lens, is great from about F4 on.  Really great at 8 or smaller.