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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: RSL on September 28, 2012, 09:31:12 pm

Title: Fountain
Post by: RSL on September 28, 2012, 09:31:12 pm
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Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: WalterEG on September 28, 2012, 10:10:35 pm
You've excelled yourself Russ,

That one works on so many levels and deeper inspection is richly rewarded.

W
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: Bruce Cox on September 28, 2012, 10:45:29 pm
She picked the right time and place to go fishing.

Bruce
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on September 28, 2012, 11:07:13 pm
You've excelled yourself Russ,

That one works on so many levels and deeper inspection is richly rewarded.

W

Who are you and what did you do to our curmudgeon friend Walter!?
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 28, 2012, 11:42:16 pm
You've excelled yourself Russ,

That one works on so many levels and deeper inspection is richly rewarded.

W
+1.

(Look: I can even agree with Walter!)
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: John R on September 29, 2012, 01:48:24 pm
I like this image, but I do think it would be more striking without the boys in the foreground.
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: walter.sk on September 29, 2012, 02:41:53 pm
I like this image, but I do think it would be more striking without the boys in the foreground.
I think the shot is cool!  But I agree about the foreground boys.  I do lots of street shooting, and I know how it works...if you wait for the boys to leave the frame, they don't; instead, the great figure leaning on the fountain leaves first!
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: KirbyKrieger on September 29, 2012, 03:03:08 pm
Agree with two of points already made and re-made: excellent picture, but I'm interested to know what it looks like with the figures bisected by the lower edge removed.  The picture seems to have just the right kind of "air" in it, as well as beautifully handled grisaille.  The play of the optical space against the architectural space, foregrounded by the irregularly positioned girl, is one of the kinds of pictorial pleasure that is always activated on viewing.
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: amolitor on September 29, 2012, 03:15:53 pm
Are you guys kidding? The boys at the bottom of the frame make it. Without them it becomes almost an abstract, and a much less human and much more ambiguous scene.

Their interest in something outside the frame adds a new element of the unknown, and their total indifference to the scene immediately behind them has a couple of effects, all good. We're pretty sure the figure in the fountain isn't dead, and hasn't fallen there -- we're quite sure now that the figure is digging around in the fountain, for reasons blessedly unknown. Their indifference also lends a frisson of the surreal to the image, another layer of 'what the hell, now? what?'

The boys set the scene as "probably a mall or something" rather than god knows where, where, without context, we have no notion of what the fountain could be, or why the figure could be in that position.

Street is, for me, about combining things we understand and know, a context in which we feel comfortable, with elements of mystery and narrative. Without the boys we lose most of those pieces, in this one.
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: WalterEG on September 29, 2012, 04:19:12 pm
For me, the departing lads at the bottom of frame are pretty much the subject of the photograph and the fountain and playing figure are the background.  It is the bisection of the guys that, in my reading of the image, elevate the image to transcend the mundane record and create narrative.

Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: RSL on September 29, 2012, 05:05:45 pm
Happiness! I see there are at least two critics who understand the difference between a documentary photograph and a street photograph. Thanks Andrew and Walter.
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: Tony Jay on September 29, 2012, 06:47:05 pm
Fantastically enigmatic image Russ.
Well done.

Regards

Tony Jay
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: Richowens on September 30, 2012, 10:03:34 am
Bravo!
 Each element in the photo has its own voice, each as necessary as the others for harmony.

 My take on the story..........the boys are playing video games and the little girl is diving for quarters to keep them going. ;D ;D ::)

Rich
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: Rob C on September 30, 2012, 10:26:41 am
This is strange; I find absolutely no need for the knowledge of what they are all doing.

To me, photographs are what they are, and if you seek messages send a text - you'll probably get one back. It's not too clever to explain the actuality of things within one's shot: someone, a while back, posted a very interesting night photograph of some party girls in a window, and the moment that he replied to a posted question about it, it died the death. Leave it to the viewer's imagination or, if you like, give it a caption that directs the viewer into your mental space at the time of shooting... That's why in other situations, it's a good deal more romantic to turn the lights down low, or even off. Let the brain pay its dues.

Rob C
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: Richowens on September 30, 2012, 10:38:54 am
Rob,

 I simply posted a statement, in a light hearted joking way, of what popped into my head.

 Nothing profound intended. Nothing intended more than a chuckle.

Rich
 
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on September 30, 2012, 10:39:21 am
This is a good example why I do not get most of the street photography ???
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: John R on September 30, 2012, 10:53:21 am
I see the image as light hearted and whimsical.

JR
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: RSL on September 30, 2012, 11:34:21 am
Let the brain pay its dues.

+1
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: Rob C on September 30, 2012, 01:00:07 pm
Rob,

 I simply posted a statement, in a light hearted joking way, of what popped into my head.

 Nothing profound intended. Nothing intended more than a chuckle.

Rich
 


Hey, I'd not intended a direct riposte to your post - sorry that you thought that - it's more of a general feeling about pictures from anyone, not any criticism of yourself.

Rob C
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on September 30, 2012, 01:03:47 pm
This is a good example why I do not get most of the street photography ???

You and me both, Slobodan.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Fountain
Post by: Rob C on September 30, 2012, 01:45:16 pm
You and me both, Slobodan.

Jeremy


I take you at your word, Jeremy.

My first heroes, before I discovered fashion, were all of the likes of HC-B and the rest of that particular school. As a result, I have a soft spot in my heart for that type of photography (differences between street and PJ notwithstanding), and though I think I can differentiate between what works and what does not (for me), I have absolutely no talent of my own in getting out there and coming back with results that please me. I love it but can't do it. Someone who managed to achieve boih of my loves, is Frank Horvat.

http://www.horvatland.com

Worth a peek. On many levels.

Rob C