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Equipment & Techniques => Motion & Video => Topic started by: Sareesh Sudhakaran on August 15, 2012, 12:15:27 am

Title: The 15 Most Beautifully Designed Video Cameras
Post by: Sareesh Sudhakaran on August 15, 2012, 12:15:27 am
Everyone goes gaga over still cameras so I thought I'd put together a list of what I felt was the 15 Most beautifully designed cameras made for video:

Here's 15 to 8:The 15 Most Beautifully Designed Video Cameras - 15 to 8 | wolfcrow (http://wolfcrow.com/blog/the-15-most-beautifully-designed-video-cameras-15-to-8/)
Here's 7 to 1: The 15 Most Beautifully Designed Video Cameras - 7 to 1 | wolfcrow (http://wolfcrow.com/blog/the-15-most-beautifully-designed-video-cameras-7-to-1/)

Enjoy, and don't get hurt.
Title: Re: The 15 Most Beautifully Designed Video Cameras
Post by: Morgan_Moore on August 15, 2012, 03:23:00 am
Digital Bolex ?. have you seen the position of the XLRs ?

Will be unusable

As for the rest, I think the ENG cams are OK

Cameras are a nightmare in design, I have yet to be near one that you could operate by touch (unlike and pro DSLR)

S


Title: Re: The 15 Most Beautifully Designed Video Cameras
Post by: Morgan_Moore on August 15, 2012, 03:25:41 am
Black Magic?

The mount choice is utterly dumb, a FF35 mount on a S16 chip

Means you cant use any lenses designed for that sensor

Again virtually unusable

S
Title: Re: The 15 Most Beautifully Designed Video Cameras
Post by: Morgan_Moore on August 15, 2012, 03:28:37 am
Fit for purpose

(http://www.abelcine.com/store/image.php?type=T&id=20013)

(http://static.dezeen.com/uploads/2010/05/dzn_Alpa-Camera-1.jpg)

And the worst ever..

(http://www.dslrnewsshooter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/c300-IMG_0699.jpg)
Title: Re: The 15 Most Beautifully Designed Video Cameras
Post by: Sareesh Sudhakaran on August 15, 2012, 06:45:23 am
Black Magic?

The mount choice is utterly dumb, a FF35 mount on a S16 chip

Means you cant use any lenses designed for that sensor

Again virtually unusable

S

I assume they did that to get the Canon DSLR crowd to buy into their system. One can also use Nikon, PL and Leica R glass with adapters.

And I'm not sure if traditional C-mount lenses can out-resolve EF and ZE lenses. Who knows? We might see the resurgence of 35mm DOF adapters!
Title: Re: The 15 Most Beautifully Designed Video Cameras
Post by: Morgan_Moore on August 15, 2012, 07:29:03 am
I dont think you can use many PL lenses, this is somewhat unclear, I would be interested in a 10-xx S16 lens on that camera

Nikon and canon glass is pretty scarce in the 8-10mm range (that is what is required on this sensor to give a FF28 look or thereabouts)

Its also slow, you cant get any 1.8 canikon lenses in sub 20mm, due to the small sensor f2 will give a nice look similar I geuess to 5.6 on a FF35

Basically there is one plastic canon crappo zoom 10-XX

There is also the Tonka 11-16 which has quite a good rep, also slow at 2.8

Cmount wont go on.

As for lens res, it is important to consider projected area, - a canon lens might resolve 6000 lines across its image circle which is (I guess) 2000 lines on the black magic sensor, being just the middle - that should be enough

I guess lenses designed for small sensors have higher res per unit area of image circle..

Altogether a bad design driven by (as you suggest) a few canon fan boys and no optical engineers apparently

The very opposite of beautiful design

S

Title: Re: The 15 Most Beautifully Designed Video Cameras
Post by: Morgan_Moore on August 15, 2012, 07:43:38 am
.. and the snout wastes space in your bag (BMD)
Title: Re: The 15 Most Beautifully Designed Video Cameras
Post by: Sareesh Sudhakaran on August 15, 2012, 10:40:25 pm
.. and the snout wastes space in your bag (BMD)

lol...funny how they haven't released side-view pictures of it without a lens...

My recommendations for lenses - 11-16mm f/2.8 Tokina, 17-55mm f/2.8 IS Canon, 70-200mm f/2.8 IS USM L Canon, Samyang 24mm f/1.4 and 35mm f/1.4
Title: Re: The 15 Most Beautifully Designed Video Cameras
Post by: fredjeang on August 16, 2012, 03:41:08 am
There is nothing more versatile when it comes
To lenses than the m4/3 sensors.

The zuiko digital from the pro line are the best
Glasses you can mount to date on a digital body
And recognized as such. They are what the leitz
Were to Analog cams .

I had  the chance  on set to compare  them
With the best canon pro line because a shooter
who was doing the making-of used those zuiko digital
and the quality is absolutly stunning, up with the best Leicas.

If only pana would boost the next gh to more than
8 bits we would compeat with the alexa output for 1000 euros.
(with still the hassles of the mini HDMI etc...)