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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Colour Management => Topic started by: douvidl on July 27, 2012, 10:11:42 am

Title: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: douvidl on July 27, 2012, 10:11:42 am
I have noticed great inconsistencies in the quality of prints i get via Lion.  The '09 iMac is regularly calibrated, the profile associated with the paper is use is employed (on my Epson 3880).  Yet, the images have no red or orange tones, regardless of which icc I use and regardless of what screen profile I use.  It's almost as if Lion reverted back to a profile that was awful and wouldn't "hold" the profile I selected.
So, last night, I printed an image in CS5, that I processed in CS6.  The image was on the mark with the screen!!
THis is a new one for me.  Anyone else have this experience?  Can anyone share comments? or what?
Thanks for your efforts
David
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: Mark D Segal on July 27, 2012, 10:14:48 am
If you are using Lion for both CS5 and CS6 and getting good results printing from CS5 but not from CS6 this would suggest you have a CS6 Print settings problem and nothing to do with the OS.
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: douvidl on July 27, 2012, 10:27:01 am
Mark;
What kind of printing settings may be involved.?
David
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: Mark D Segal on July 27, 2012, 12:01:48 pm
The same ones that work in CS5 should be replicated in CS6, both in the printer driver and in the Photoshop Print dialog.
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: douvidl on July 27, 2012, 12:56:58 pm
They are, Mark.   That's what prompted me to seek some help.
David
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: Mark D Segal on July 27, 2012, 01:30:00 pm
Ah - good. Do you have the latest version of the Epson driver installed? Perhaps something between the driver and CS6 or driver and Lion that differs from a previous driver. I'm guessing - but again, from the logic of what you are presenting it just doesn't seem to be an OS issue. Now that you say the Print settings are the same I'm wondering whether the Epson driver version you are using is the latest, coherent with both Lion and CS6.
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: douvidl on July 27, 2012, 05:41:09 pm
I shall redo and find out.
Thanks
David
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: douvidl on July 27, 2012, 05:57:51 pm
Mark
I did it, downloaded driver   Same thing.  Wretched print
David
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: Mark D Segal on July 27, 2012, 06:57:15 pm
Really sorry to read that. I must admit I am now out of ideas on this one. I hope for your sake someone else with alternatives will chime-in here.
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: Farmer on July 27, 2012, 07:59:40 pm
It's time to ask for screenshots of your PS and Driver settings - all the way from go to woe in your printing workflow.
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: Farmer on July 27, 2012, 08:00:01 pm
Oh, and do a nozzle check.
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: Mark D Segal on July 27, 2012, 08:07:08 pm
It's time to ask for screenshots of your PS and Driver settings - all the way from go to woe in your printing workflow.

Yes indeed - and I would recommend that he provide two sets - one for CS5 and the other for CS6.

One of the first thoughts that crossed my mind was clogged nozzles, but I put that out of mind as I wouldn't expect they'd be clogged for one version of Photoshop and not the other - if printed in rapid succession. Anyhow, yes, try everything.
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: digitaldog on July 27, 2012, 08:35:05 pm
If you haven't done it lately, I'd do the Epson-Apple driver fix hocus pocus enema which is to delete all instances of Epson printers from System Preferences>Print & Fax.
Then go to /Library/Printers and toss the whole Epson folder.
Toss LFP Remote Panel (IF you are using this utility for your printer).
Then reinstall drivers. These should be downloaded from Epson, never updated through the Apple System update.
When you go back to Print & Fax to add the printer, on 10.6 I had to wait almost a minute before the IP version of the printer showed up, whereas the Bonjour one shows up right away. Then add the IP instance of the printer. This is for printers on a network.
Then re-install LFP Remote Panel if you use it with this printer.
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: Mark D Segal on July 27, 2012, 08:43:14 pm
Andrew - great post - I'm keeping it my Epson folder. I completely forgot about this "fix", but now that you mention it, yes, this kind of clean-out can take all manner of "issues" with it, and then the only driver install - as you say -  should be from the Epson website itself. Really worth remembering.
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: douvidl on July 28, 2012, 10:49:06 am
Andrew.

Not to show too much of my ignorance, but what do all the initials mean?

Thanks
David
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: digitaldog on July 28, 2012, 12:11:23 pm
Not to show too much of my ignorance, but what do all the initials mean?

What initials?
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: douvidl on July 28, 2012, 01:26:03 pm
LRF, IP
I am running 10.7.4
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: howardm on July 28, 2012, 03:13:50 pm
That's LFP, not LRF.  I believe it stands for Large Format Printer.  The LFP Remote Panel is a piece of software that lets you make adjustments and set settings on the printer from the computer instead of the printer front panel.

'IP' = Internet Protocol.  He is technically inaccurate  :o  in that Bonjour is a *subset* of the overal suite of IP technologies.  Anyway, IP is a loose name for network connection of the printer to the computer (compare/contrast USB (Universal Serial Bus) connection method)


LRF, IP
I am running 10.7.4

Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: Mark D Segal on July 28, 2012, 03:22:23 pm
That's LFP, not LRF.  I believe it stands for Large Format Printer.  The LFP Remote Panel is a piece of software that lets you make adjustments and set settings on the printer from the computer instead of the printer front panel.

'IP' = Internet Protocol.  He is technically inaccurate  :o  in that Bonjour is a *subset* of the overal suite of IP technologies.  Anyway, IP is a loose name for network connection of the printer to the computer (compare/contrast USB (Universal Serial Bus) connection method)



Here is a real description of what "Bonjour" is all about: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/NetServices/Articles/about.html (https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/NetServices/Articles/about.html)
Title: Re: Color Printing with Lion
Post by: douvidl on July 28, 2012, 04:30:07 pm
Thanks all.  My head is swimming.  But I did print a wonderful image on bright white gloss canvas using CS5 not 6.  And finished in Raw Therapee.  Using a xrite profile.  Each have strengths.  I've yet to  find out CS6's strengths.
David