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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: Jeremy Roussak on May 01, 2012, 05:29:10 pm

Title: wheels
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on May 01, 2012, 05:29:10 pm
Comments?

Jeremy
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: wolfnowl on May 02, 2012, 12:26:31 am
I like it.

Mike.
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: John R Smith on May 02, 2012, 03:49:19 am
Jeremy

It's a nice etude, with subtle and intriguing tones and textures. It looks to me like part of an old threshing machine, but of course I could be wrong.

John
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: francois on May 02, 2012, 06:56:50 am
Wonderful… Great textures, colors and shapes!
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Roberto Frieri on May 02, 2012, 08:54:11 am
Nice, why not to try a black and white conversion to emphazise lines and shapes?
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Rob C on May 02, 2012, 09:45:44 am
Nice, why not to try a black and white conversion to emphazise lines and shapes?


He's right; could be a stunner in b/white.
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: michswiss on May 02, 2012, 10:09:54 am
It doesn't need to be b&w, but it does need to have the "hotness" taken out of it, black levels increased as well as contrast, not so vibrant but keep the saturation. Some selective detailing and sharpness will also add to the texture.  Just some thoughts.
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 02, 2012, 11:41:27 am
Is anyone else bothered by that nut & bolt thingy protruding in the upper right-hand corner? Looks pretty easy to clone out.
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Les Sparks on May 02, 2012, 12:38:23 pm
Agree with B/W comments. Would really like to see it in B/W.

The thingy doesn't bother me.

Les
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 02, 2012, 12:48:26 pm
I like this a lot.

I cloned out "that nut & bolt thingy protruding in the upper right-hand corner" in my mind's eye, and I concluded that it is needed to make the composition balance. Without it the image feels to heavy on the right.

I agree that a B&W could also be nice, but I like the rather in-your-face colors of the original.

Nice shot, Jeremy!

Eric

Correction: Sorry, Jeremy. I should have said "colours." I hope you could guess what I meant anyway.  ;)
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: John R Smith on May 02, 2012, 02:13:58 pm
Jeremy

Normally, as you know, I hate colour photography ;) and would have immediately suggested converting your picture to B/W, as did so many of our esteemed Forum members.

But in this case the colour tells you what the subject is (at least it does if you are English and of a certain age). So I do rather like it the way it is . . .

John
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Rob C on May 02, 2012, 02:29:16 pm
Jeremy

Normally, as you know, I hate colour photography ;) and would have immediately suggested converting your picture to B/W, as did so many of our esteemed Forum members.

But in this case the colour tells you what the subject is (at least it does if you are English and of a certain age). So I do rather like it the way it is . . .

John




John, I'm of a certain+ age and didn't have any idea of what the subject was; it doesn't bother me at all with this genre - for me it's all about the shape and how it jumps or sleeps.

Rob C
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 02, 2012, 02:33:06 pm
... I cloned out "that nut & bolt thingy protruding in the upper right-hand corner" in my mind's eye, and I concluded that it is needed to make the composition balance. Without it the image feels to heavy on the right...

On second thought... I tend to agree. Perhaps I would still burn it a bit (darken), as it appears to be the brightest part of the image, attracting immediate attention.
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 02, 2012, 03:30:16 pm
I'll accept burning it a little, if Jeremy is willing.
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on May 03, 2012, 02:51:35 pm
Thank you, all.

I think it is an old threshing machine. I took the shot on a recent holiday Ireland at a show farm (ah, the wonders of a 7-year-old daughter!). I've attached another shot of it below.

I nearly always hit "v" (John) to see how a photo would look in black and white. I didn't try with this one because I felt that the colours were important, but I've given it a go. It looks OK to me, but I don't like it as much as the colour version. What do you think?

I've fiddled a bit with the original, increasing the contrast and lowering the vibrancy a tad (Jennifer) and burning in the upper-right bolt a little (Slobodan and Eric). I think those suggestions have improved it; I've also raised the "shadows" slider to bring out a little more detail of the inside.

Jeremy
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: amolitor on May 04, 2012, 03:39:56 pm
No matter how you slice it, I think it's a fine study in composition and form. The bolt thing upper left is definitely necessary, and I think the little divot in the lower right corner where the two pieces of wood meet, leaving the dark space, is as well.

It leaves me a little chilly in terms of emotional impact - it evokes no real reaction from me, apart from "nice study" but I don't think you were really intending it as an allegory of Man's Inhumanity To Man or whatever, so I assume you're ok with that ;)
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: John R Smith on May 04, 2012, 03:55:25 pm
Jeremy

A little further research on the 'net has pinned the subject of your picture down to a Ransomes (of Ipswich) threshing machine. Here is a link to a photo of the whole beast -

http://gallery.nen.gov.uk/asset652449-.html (http://gallery.nen.gov.uk/asset652449-.html)

It is that red and pink colour scheme which immediately brought back childhood memories for me  ;)

John
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: 32BT on May 05, 2012, 11:48:38 am
Do you possibly have a larger crop of this where you could turn this 45degr clockwise?
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Rob C on May 05, 2012, 01:58:34 pm
Do you possibly have a larger crop of this where you could turn this 45degr clockwise?




But... but... but I thought you liked straight horizons!

Rob C
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on May 05, 2012, 02:06:50 pm
John, I'm impressed and I'm sure you're right. The second shot I posted above matches as well.
opgr, no; I was obeying Russ's dictum and cropping in camera.

Jeremy
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on May 05, 2012, 02:16:02 pm
I prefer the b&w version, I feel it gives more substance to the different textures and shapes without the confusion of colour.   
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: 32BT on May 05, 2012, 03:55:34 pm
But... but... but I thought you liked straight horizons!

Rob C

Nah, nothing like a slanted view. (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=9213.msg50318#msg50318)
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Kirk Gittings on May 05, 2012, 07:51:35 pm
Actually they are technically cams right? Not wheels.
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Richowens on May 06, 2012, 12:42:54 am
Not cams, pulleys.

A cam converts circular motion into linear motion.

Rich
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on May 06, 2012, 03:42:30 am
Actually they are technically cams right? Not wheels.

Hey, they're round and they have spokes. That's good enough for me.  ;)

Jeremy
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Rob C on May 06, 2012, 10:15:41 am
Not cams, pulleys.

A cam converts circular motion into linear motion.

Rich



Even then one can get shafted.

Rob C
Title: Re: wheels
Post by: Kirk Gittings on May 06, 2012, 10:24:02 am
Not cams, pulleys.

A cam converts circular motion into linear motion.

Rich

Yes! That's what I was trying to think of.