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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: NikolaBorissov on August 31, 2011, 06:39:56 am
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http://www.hasselblad.com/promotions/h4d-40--h4d-50.aspx
Best of all? They are using my humble images for that...Oh joy :)
Can't wait to get my hands on the update, though...
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http://www.hasselblad.com/promotions/h4d-40--h4d-50.aspx
Best of all? They are using my humble images for that...Oh joy :)
Can't wait to get my hands on the update, though...
Congratulations, very nice picture!
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It was supposed to change something, yet still shows us what will happen in the future, not what it is. I hope that this time we stand up to the task and there will be no delays. All the time the producers want to sell us a "pie in the sky". Is not it time to change the approach to the customer?
BR
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It was supposed to change something, yet still shows us what will happen in the future, not what it is. I hope that this time we stand up to the task and there will be no delays. All the time the producers want to sell us a "pie in the sky". Is not it time to change the approach to the customer?
BR
*Sigh*
For those of you more interested in facts as opposed to cryptic postings, then please go to the link mentioned earlier!
http://www.hasselblad.com/promotions/h4d-40--h4d-50.aspx
Essentially, those of you with 40 and 50's will enjoy the benefits we introduced recently on the 60, including the higher res screen!
David
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*Sigh*
For those of you more interested in facts as opposed to cryptic postings, then please go to the link mentioned earlier!
http://www.hasselblad.com/promotions/h4d-40--h4d-50.aspx
Essentially, those of you with 40 and 50's will enjoy the benefits we introduced recently on the 60, including the higher res screen!
David
David,
I know.
But I mean it's better to show products that are ready. Even in the case of software. The publication date is not a good idea. History has shown that it is difficult to meet the deadline. But I know I whine. I keep my fingers crossed that this has been done on time.
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Wait, is Hasselblad saying existing H4D-40 and 50 actually have the high res screens and we'll get a firmware update to enable it?
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Wait, is Hasselblad saying existing H4D-40 and 50 actually have the high res screens and we'll get a firmware update to enable it?
Yes.
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Wait, is Hasselblad saying existing H4D-40 and 50 actually have the high res screens and we'll get a firmware update to enable it?
YES :o
In advertising boast that Santa Claus will come to you at 1 December, and run it as long ago you bought:)
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Yes.
Technical specification says: H4D-40 Color display is a 3 inch TFT type, 24 bit color, 460x320 pixels.
Interesting how the number of pixels may change using firmware update? ;D
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Well, this is very interesting. The low res P&S like screen was probably my biggest complaint with the H4D-50.
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From my understanding, the displays in the 40 and 50 have been capable of the higher resolution, but the speed trade-offs from increased processing power required to render the image postponed the feature; a smart move in my opinion instead of releasing the firmware too early...
So the R&D have had the benefit of tweaking the rendering algorithms so the older display chips can at least perform reasonably well and provide the owner with a great result. Pretty cool.
Another example of adding more value to the equipment after the sale = better customer experience. We should encourage more value as a best practice; independent of the badge on the camera.
Going to be tough to hear complaints about this one...
John
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Any chance the H3DII has this screen? And if so would it trickle down that far?
Damn, i really need to upgrade to a H4D. I'm missing the party.
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Question for David Grover
I am happy that the LCD gets more resolution.
BUT why is the preview picture on that hi res LCD
so crapy when it comes to colours?
Skin look like dirty magenta mush compared to Nikon and Canon!!
Are there any plans to get the colours more correct on the LCD??
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Question to David Grover:
http://www.hasselblad.com/upgrade
"*Firmware upgrades listed above will not be able to be ported to the H4D-31 or CFV 39/50. H4D-50 customers, who have upgraded from the H3DII-50, can have their camera further upgraded with a new digital back unit including new electronics and display for MRSP 1.990€ excl. VAT. This offer is valid until March 31, 2012 "
We assume that this incident took place:
Assuming that I bought "H3DII50" shortly before the announcement, "H4D". I was offered free udgrade to "H4D50." I made this exchange. Now it turns out that my camera is not H4D50. It offers me a replacement for 1990Euro +Tax . Generally I am not cool with that. David, do not you think I should get it for free?
Thank you in advance for your reply
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Question for David Grover
I am happy that the LCD gets more resolution.
BUT why is the preview picture on that hi res LCD
so crapy when it comes to colours?
Skin look like dirty magenta mush compared to Nikon and Canon!!
Are there any plans to get the colours more correct on the LCD??
Hi Willow,
We don't usually get any complaints regarding the colours on the LCD. Is it worth comparing with another H4D? Also, is this with a custom white balance or with a preset?
David
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I understand that my question is difficult
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Normally you would take this up with your dealer and see if he can do something for you.
This is what I think has happened. Probably in the upgrade from H3D50 towards H4D50 the body is changed but not the back. The newer backs have the right hardware where as the older does not. At the moment of the previous upgrade towards the H4D this was no issue since there was no intent or possibility to facilitate the higher res screen. After this HB found a way to take use of the hardware which changed this.
Now sure you can make a big deal out of it. Maybe HB should have made the upgrade initially much more expensive and also changed the hardware in the back in the first place even though it would have made no sense at that time? How would people react if HB never did find a way to use the higher res and had people pay for changing something that was unnecessary and only added costs?
Sure I can understand people are disappointed.
Anyway, speculation on my side naturally but this is what I think is what happened. Now if you really want the higher res you simply have to cough up the extra money to also change the hardware in your back. Nobody is twisting your arm here. If I do something for someone I would like to get paid too, as does everybody...
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Normally you would take this up with your dealer and see if he can do something for you.
This is what I think has happened. Probably in the upgrade from H3D50 towards H4D50 the body is changed but not the back. The newer backs have the right hardware where as the older does not. At the moment of the previous upgrade towards the H4D this was no issue since there was no intent or possibility to facilitate the higher res screen. After this HB found a way to take use of the hardware which changed this.
Now sure you can make a big deal out of it. Maybe HB should have made the upgrade initially much more expensive and also changed the hardware in the back in the first place even though it would have made no sense at that time? How would people react if HB never did find a way to use the higher res and had people pay for changing something that was unnecessary and only added costs?
Sure I can understand people are disappointed.
Anyway, speculation on my side naturally but this is what I think is what happened. Now if you really want the higher res you simply have to cough up the extra money to also change the hardware in your back. Nobody is twisting your arm here. If I do something for someone I would like to get paid too, as does everybody...
I understand everything. I bought H3DII50, got H4D50 (listed the same body), I just do not pay for it. But unfortunately there were those who had to pay for it also 2 thousand euros. I can not see this problem in order to spend another 2 thousand euro on a whim a better display. The problem is that someone sold me a story that I get H4D50, and now it turns out that I have indeed H4D but not entirely wholesome. And as if nothing had happened, trying to pull me in two thousand. The user who in good faith has paid for the exchange of two thousand euro may now feel cheated.I do not understand how Hasselblad can do such stupid moves. I feel disgusted.
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I understand everything. I bought H3DII50, got H4D50 (listed the same body), I just do not pay for it. But unfortunately there were those who had to pay for it also 2 thousand euros. I can not see this problem in order to spend another 2 thousand euro on a whim a better display. The problem is that someone sold me a story that I get H4D50, and now it turns out that I have indeed H4D but not entirely wholesome. And as if nothing had happened, trying to pull me in two thousand. The user who in good faith has paid for the exchange of two thousand euro may now feel cheated.I do not understand how Hasselblad can do such stupid moves. I feel disgusted.
So, let me get this straight : you're bitching because you got 2000 EURO worth of charity.... just once ? And you also feel disgusted about it ? I understand this, I would also feel disgusted if I were you ... about myself.
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So, let me get this straight : you're bitching because you got 2000 EURO worth of charity.... just once ? And you also feel disgusted about it ? I understand this, I would also feel disgusted if I were you ... about myself.
Charity??!
You probably do not understand. But they did not give me this out of love. But In order that I was feeling good that they care about me. Just give me something that is not what was supposed to be. Already it pisses me off. And the one who pay for it, must be seriously pissed off. The same behavior is arrogant. - Still trying to pull someone. Sell the same thing again.
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Hey Design Freak!
Thought I should pop into this thread and say hi as there might be a few new visitors here who don't know your history with Hasselblad.
Folks Design Freak used to be a Hasselblad dealer in Poland. He is no longer a dealer, you may draw your own conclusions from that.
Mr Freak has a rather large axe to grind.
And now back to our regular programming :)
Nick-T
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Hey Design Freak!
Thought I should pop into this thread and say hi as there might be a few new visitors here who don't know your history with Hasselblad.
Folks Design Freak used to be a Hasselblad dealer in Poland. He is no longer a dealer, you may draw your own conclusions from that.
Mr Freak has a rather large axe to grind.
And now back to our regular programming :)
Nick-T
And this explains why many people have equipment that is not hardware for which they paid?
Nick, buddy:) They have a lot to pay you, that you did it. Personally I have no problem with that. You can insult me, try to belittle me. No one will affect what I think.
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No insult intended Mr Freak, I just think it's useful for people to know who they are talking to. That's why my sig has the forum I run so that people know I have a hasselblad bias.
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No insult intended Mr Freak, I just think it's useful for people to know who they are talking to. That's why my sig has the forum I run so that people know I have a hasselblad bias.
To be clear, now I'm on the other side of the barricade. So the user.
Once you're so helpful, you can write what you think about this because David seems to have no time.
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Nick,
I understand that you need time to consult with your employers. I'm looking for a meaningful response.
good night
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(...) No one will affect what I think.
Yesss, don't let them get to you!
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Actually, I am hearing from several users that they are looking forward to the update - the spirit level will help me in the most practical way; I suppose that means I am not quite level-headed?
John
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Nick, is it true that Mr. Freak's dealership was canceled because he did not pay Hasseblad for equipment? It would explain why he is so mad and antagonistic.
Thanks for the update on who he really is. It actually explains a lot.
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No insult intended Mr Freak, I just think it's useful for people to know who they are talking to. That's why my sig has the forum I run so that people know I have a hasselblad bias.
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Yesss, don't let them get to you!
Typical behavior of Polish
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Nick, is it true that Mr. Freak's dealership was canceled because he did not pay Hasseblad for equipment? It would explain why he is so mad and antagonistic.
Thanks for the update on who he really is. It actually explains a lot.
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Can also explains why many photographers have H4D50 that is not full-fledged hardware? Although their invoice says different.
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Actually, I am hearing from several users that they are looking forward to the update - the spirit level will help me in the most practical way; I suppose that means I am not quite level-headed?
John
I also say that this is a nice option. I am not surprised that many are waiting for. Trying to reach those less witted fellows, that many photographers are surprised that they do not have a "H4D" even though they were convinced that it has. And these colleagues do not understand that the photographer may feel cheated.
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Typical behavior of Polish
To be honest freak, that's exactly what I thought about your bitching in this topic. It's just always not enough is it. And this blind stubborness, typical.
A company happened to come up with a new iteration of their equipment shortly after releasing something to the market. They offer a solution for people which unfortunately bought the equipment right before H4D premiere. You are getting a FREE upgrade to H4D. Ok, not the same H4D you'd buy but all the essential features of H4D are there (in fact all of the features you'd be buying H4D for are there). And you are still moaning? Be thankful that the company is looking for a solution for their clients and gives a helping hand. Think about what Apple is doing - they don't give a damn about your wallet and what you're getting. I heard that in Germany in one of the networks you can already pay for Iphone 5 even though noone knows when exactly will it hit the market and what would be the features. Heck, noone has even seen it. Not to mention that iPad 2 was a makeshift solution, forced by the marketing needs and iPad 3 will hit the market in no time. And that's the most succesful company out there at the moment. Consider the circumstances and what is going on around you and then start moaning about getting a free upgrade.
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To be clear, now I'm on the other side of the barricade. So the user.
Once you're so helpful, you can write what you think about this because David seems to have no time.
Time is one thing.
For sure, it is not a perfect situation, but we are trying to do right by all.
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To be honest freak, that's exactly what I thought about your bitching in this topic. It's just always not enough is it. And this blind stubborness, typical.
A company happened to come up with a new iteration of their equipment shortly after releasing something to the market. They offer a solution for people which unfortunately bought the equipment right before H4D premiere. You are getting a FREE upgrade to H4D. Ok, not the same H4D you'd buy but all the essential features of H4D are there (in fact all of the features you'd be buying H4D for are there). And you are still moaning? Be thankful that the company is looking for a solution for their clients and gives a helping hand. Think about what Apple is doing - they don't give a damn about your wallet and what you're getting. I heard that in Germany in one of the networks you can already pay for Iphone 5 even though noone knows when exactly will it hit the market and what would be the features. Heck, noone has even seen it. Not to mention that iPad 2 was a makeshift solution, forced by the marketing needs and iPad 3 will hit the market in no time. And that's the most succesful company out there at the moment. Consider the circumstances and what is going on around you and then start moaning about getting a free upgrade.
Dear friend, unfortunately you have misunderstood what I wrote. Praise them for constantly upgrading the equipment. Your comparison to Apple is pretty weak. Apple changes the equipment pretty often, along with small changes. But subsequent versions have different names. Nobody is in no doubt as to which equipment has. Everything is bright and clear. He wants a new, and gets paid. In this case it is different. And the customer has a right to feel cheated. It's like buy a car with a turbo engine, and then get a proposal to purchase the module which will make a turbo that will work. And this poor user in good faith acquired the car, which according to the documents is a car with turbo. Just now Hasselblad should find a way to handle this shortcoming. All the time I trust that this action was not intentional.
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This was not a comparison, since in my opinion what Apple does is much more insolent than the case of Hasselblad you described. I was just giving an example of nowadays company's policy/marketing. As for Hassy- sure it's not a perfect solution from your perspecvite, but there is no perfect (applicable) solution in this situation. As for comparisons, I think it's more like buying a car with turbo engine and regular front lights and then get a proposal to purchase the module which will make the LED lamps in the front lights work. But noone said that the LED lamps were there in the first place. In my opinion you shouldn't underestimate the fact that you got a H4D upgrade for free. It's still a turbo engine car which you can enjoy.
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Nick, is it true that Mr. Freak's dealership was canceled because he did not pay Hasseblad for equipment? It would explain why he is so mad and antagonistic.
Thanks for the update on who he really is. It actually explains a lot.
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I believe insisting on details is not prudent and can lead to situation of defamation or slander. Besides it's not constructive and gives nothing to the forum.
Some times I can understand that Mr Freak can do comments that are inappropriate or whatever, but in this case the comment is valid. Even if it was not the case, that's no reason for turning the forum into a gossip one.
In the other hand I believe Hasselblad took the best decision for the clients. The new features were not part of the H4D. The only one that was is the high resolution back and only for the H4D-60.
So It's normal to pay for a hardware feature like a double resolution display. Also it was normal to pay for the update from H3D to H4D.
Hasselblad just found a way to update some users for free. Both the first time and the second. This is great.
Insist: Nothing is missing from your H4D. The new tech was never part of the package
Best regards,
James
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James, after finding out how bad the situation was for Mr. Freak, I sincerely felt sorry for him and I will not repeat it here. But his anger and antagonism is not appropriate. As a former dealer, I'm sure he agreed to keep matters confidential or professional, but his repetitive barrage of taunts and nasty jabs demonstrates that he can't control himself. It's very sad.
I do agree with you too, I wish him well and I hope he, and his family, are going to be ok after what happened.
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I believe insisting on details is not prudent and can lead to situation of defamation or slander. Besides it's not constructive and gives nothing to the forum.
Some times I can understand that Mr Freak can do comments that are inappropriate or whatever, but in this case the comment is valid. Even if it was not the case, that's no reason for turning the forum into a gossip one.
In the other hand I believe Hasselblad took the best decision for the clients. The new features were not part of the H4D. The only one that was is the high resolution back and only for the H4D-60.
So It's normal to pay for a hardware feature like a double resolution display. Also it was normal to pay for the update from H3D to H4D.
Hasselblad just found a way to update some users for free. Both the first time and the second. This is great.
Insist: Nothing is missing from your H4D. The new tech was never part of the package
Best regards,
James
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Still do not feel the essence of the problem. Sold a quantity of equipment, then someone had the idea to give customers an upgrade to the latest model for free. Someone invented it counted and that the cheapest will replace body. (DB will be the same). The problem comes at a time when normal camera H4D50 "from the production line" is different. DB has already a different display, electronics. Then comes the problem, because between the customer and the company is incorporated agreement. And regardless of whether the customer gets something for free or must pay for it. So from a legal point, this agreement was not kept. Client got for free or bought H4D50 that is not full-fledged H4D50. Anyway, Hasselblad admits to this himself, that just upload the new firmware. On one hand, not nice to treat the customer, on the other hand someone's irresponsibility. These things are tasty morsel for lawyers. Solve this problem could be in many ways. Even a small change in terminology. It is through such reckless moves I have now problems.
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James, after finding out how bad the situation was for Mr. Freak, I sincerely felt sorry for him and I will not repeat it here. But his anger and antagonism is not appropriate. As a former dealer, I'm sure he agreed to keep matters confidential or professional, but his repetitive barrage of taunts and nasty jabs demonstrates that he can't control himself. It's very sad.
I do agree with you too, I wish him well and I hope he, and his family, are going to be ok after what happened.
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Derek,
Please pass greetings to Sven :)
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I do not know any Sven, sorry. I am not a Hasselblad employee and I am not paid by Hasselblad or work for them (I'm guessing Sven is a name of someone there). You never know, I may switch to Minolta tomorrow ;)
Look, in light of what James said above, I do not want to say any words that will cause anger or alarm. I wish the best for you and your family, no more fighting.
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Derek,
Please pass greetings to Sven :)
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I do not know any Sven, sorry. I am not a Hasselblad employee and I am not paid by Hasselblad or work for them (I'm guessing Sven is a name of someone there). You never know, I may switch to Minolta tomorrow ;)
Look, in light of what James said above, I do not want to say any words that will cause anger or alarm. I wish the best for you and your family, no more fighting.
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Thanks
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I love my 60...hold my 60 its not H4D60?
I think its , but who know
I still have canon,, one of this day I will sale all.
I love my i-phone, who in the hell are those the say I have to pay extra if I have i-phone, I am sick of all controlling my life..one of this day I will sale that too.
Freak as u can see I do not have a good day, U care?
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I love my 60...hold my 60 its not H4D60?
I think its , but who know
I still have canon,, one of this day I will sale all.
I love my i-phone, who in the hell are those the say I have to pay extra if I have i-phone, I am sick of all controlling my life..one of this day I will sale that too.
Freak as u can see I do not have a good day, U care?
Cheer up! tomorrow is another day :-) H4D60 should not be fake! You can sleep peacefully ;-)
BTW very nice pictures you have!!
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from H3D to H4D.
Hasselblad just found a way to update some users for free. Both the first time and the second. This is great.
Man i wish i was on that boat. I'm dying to get my H3DII-31 to an H4D body already.... :(
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Man i wish i was on that boat. I'm dying to get my H3DII-31 to an H4D body already.... :(
Sorry, It was clear when you bought your camera. That camera is in very low price, and you can't join trade-in program. So from Legal point of view, you can't do anything. Just wait until they will looking for extend marketshare.
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Insist: Nothing is missing from your H4D. The new tech was never part of the package
Best regards,
James
How do you explain the fact that in the normal "production camera" was a display with higher resolution, so that when uploading the firmware, you can enjoy the higher resolution? Hmmm? So, just missing the display and perhaps even some other electronic components.
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Apparently you need a lawyer to explain it
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here is my life to the right
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How do you explain the fact that in the normal "production camera" was a display with higher resolution, so that when uploading the firmware, you can enjoy the higher resolution? Hmmm? So, just missing the display and perhaps even some other electronic components.
Did Hasselblad promisse you any of this before you buy the camera? The only reason they are not calling this a H4DII is because some cleaver tech people found a way of adding the functionality to cameras that should not have it. Hasselblad told the buyers that only the H4D-60 will have the double resolution display. In that sense maybe the H4D-60 users that buy the camera for the display and not for the resolution could protest.
Nobody should be expecting this. The decision is based in the possibilities of the hardware. Of course, you are entitled to feel left over.
But your camera is not suddenly laking any thing that was promised. If tomorrow Hasselblad starts to sale cameras with better electronics ( a single process shrink) I will not be mad if they add features later down the road to the cameras that could.
You were not protesting before they gave this to some users. That means nothing is missing.
Best regards,
James
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Did Hasselblad promisse you any of this before you buy the camera? The only reason they are not calling this a H4DII is because some cleaver tech people found a way of adding the functionality to cameras that should not have it. Hasselblad told the buyers that only the H4D-60 will have the double resolution display. In that sense maybe the H4D-60 users that buy the camera for the display and not for the resolution could protest.
Nobody should be expecting this. The decision is based in the possibilities of the hardware. Of course, you are entitled to feel left over.
But your camera is not suddenly laking any thing that was promised. If tomorrow Hasselblad starts to sale cameras with better electronics ( a single process shrink) I will not be mad if they add features later down the road to the cameras that could.
You were not protesting before they gave this to some users. That means nothing is missing.
Best regards,
James
Necessary to distinguish between two things, legal and marketing aspect. By law the user performing the upgrade of H3DII50 received H4D50. This is documented in an invoice of purchase. Everything would be ok, if not the content of advertising. "You've Just Got a Brand New Camera - You Just Don't Know it Yet"
Guy who is convinced that he has H4D50 and learns that, he has to pay for it. Speaking gently feel disappointed not to say cheated. how it will be very stubborn to find a lawyer who would help him. Worse if it is an organized group. Just here lies the problem. Who needs issues when you can avoid them. Please note that I said clearly that this is only an assumption that such an event took place. I am a fairly intelligent man and I understand it, but not everyone will understand it. Example, I remember many years ago, when in the ad was a box with the hardware inside. In one device was a battery, which was not part of the set. (The battery is there because it looked better in the photo) I had to deliver the battery and charger. After the phone from a client and lawyer I was glad that the Lord did not want to get a model who appeared in this campaign. Remember that lawyers are big pigs. Greetings
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Hmm, this is odd. A company offers to upgrade a camera body for those with the previous model, and the person upgrading expects that their digital back they already have will also be upgraded for that nominal price? Now that is wishful thinking taken to its ultimate extreme. Sure would be nice if the whole industry became a non-profit entity and did that.
So, then I could upgrade a Phase One camera to the latest version, and also get the new IQ60 back to replace a P65+ along with it? Sign me up today! LOL!
Alas, I live in the real world where fairy tales never come true. Sigh.
-Marc
Oh, BTW, Hasselblad beat their projected deadline for the firmware update ... it has been live for days now.
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Hmm, this is odd. A company offers to upgrade a camera body for those with the previous model, and the person upgrading expects that their digital back they already have will also be upgraded for that nominal price? Now that is wishful thinking taken to its ultimate extreme. Sure would be nice if the whole industry became a non-profit entity and did that.
So, then I could upgrade a Phase One camera to the latest version, and also get the new IQ60 back to replace a P65+ along with it? Sign me up today! LOL!
Alas, I live in the real world where fairy tales never come true. Sigh.
-Marc
Oh, BTW, Hasselblad beat their projected deadline for the firmware update ... it has been live for days now.
Unfortunately, unless you're aware that "Hasslblad HxD" is a camera such as Canon and Nikon. Buying H4D acquire an integrated camera. (P1 buying, buying a separate body and digitalback). And so it is treated when buying, so the conclusion of the contract between the parties. No one requires that these companies become charities. But if they voluntarily decided to replace the camera with a new one. They should keep the agreement. I have nothing more to say.
As for the new firmware. I am very glad that was released before the planned time. May this it has become a general practice :)
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I was unaware that you could upgrade a Nikon camera body and keep the sensor ... which of course you cannot.
Fortunately, the HD camera is modular, which allows the maker to upgrade part, but not all of the camera at a reasonable cost rather than making an owner buy a whole new camera/back/finder.
I thought that was nice of them to do for their H3D-II customers so they could take advantage of the really important innovation ... True Focus.
But alas, it seems no good deed goes unpunished.
-Marc
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I was unaware that you could upgrade a Nikon camera body and keep the sensor ... which of course you cannot.
Fortunately, the HD camera is modular, which allows the maker to upgrade part, but not all of the camera at a reasonable cost rather than making an owner buy a whole new camera/back/finder.
I thought that was nice of them to do for their H3D-II customers so they could take advantage of the really important innovation ... True Focus.
But alas, it seems no good deed goes unpunished.
-Marc
Of course, these are names. But the Hasselblad camera system called " integrated" , so it must be treated so. Good deed was on notice of the exchange program. I am convinced that this was done for the sake of good relations with customers and in good faith. Unfortunately, this year someone very greedy once again decided to pluck their customers. And this isn't the good deed, unfortunately, has nothing in common. Let's leave this subject. Nobody withdraw time.
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Your new camera is not integrated anymore?
How does it work? I suspect it works just fine.
So, it seems the greedy part of all this is wanting a whole new camera for the price of a new H4 body + integration with your existing back.
When the H5 appears, I shall want to trade just my H4 camera but get a whole new camera with all the updated digital back hardware and innovations. That would be cool for me, but I fear not so cool for Hasselblad's bottom line. Maybe they can apply for non-profit status?
I am not an independent Hasseblad technical advisor like you, but I did understand their upgrade program ... which seemed pretty simple ... a less expensive way to get H4 functionality without the full H4 price tag.
Good luck and happy shooting,
-Marc
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Good luck and happy shooting,
-Marc
Nice to see you here on the LL Forum, Marc - did you decide you wanted a change of scene?
John
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Hi John!
Yeah, It's holiday time, so I took a holiday break ... LOL!
-Marc
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Your new camera is not integrated anymore?
How does it work? I suspect it works just fine.
So, it seems the greedy part of all this is wanting a whole new camera for the price of a new H4 body + integration with your existing back.
When the H5 appears, I shall want to trade just my H4 camera but get a whole new camera with all the updated digital back hardware and innovations. That would be cool for me, but I fear not so cool for Hasselblad's bottom line. Maybe they can apply for non-profit status?
I am not an independent Hasseblad technical advisor like you, but I did understand their upgrade program ... which seemed pretty simple ... a less expensive way to get H4 functionality without the full H4 price tag.
Good luck and happy shooting,
-Marc
What beautiful Monday morning :)
You see and here we got to the point. Your example of the H5 displayed by you're greedy. So when you bought your H4, after two weeks of purchase the manufacturer has not announced a new model. The manufacturer did not announce that everybody who bought H4D in the last month they will swap it for H5. If you bought in the past weeks, everything is still ahead of you, and I keep my fingers crossed that they did.
I'm going back to work.
I wish you the pleasures of Christmas break :)