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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Adobe Lightroom Q&A => Topic started by: Robert-Peter Westphal on June 09, 2011, 11:53:21 am
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HI,
does anyone have an idea if we will see a beta for Lightroom 4 this summer / fall ?
If Adobe keeps the rhythm, it should come, as far as I know.
Best wishes
Robert
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does anyone have an idea if we will see a beta for Lightroom 4 this summer / fall ?
Anybody who knows can't say...anybody who says, can't know (or is breaking an NDA).
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Ok, I withdraw the question ;) !
Thanks for the fast answer !
Robby
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I am expecting a new beta in the fall. I drive past the new Adobe building on Rt 128 in Waltham MA every day. That's as close as I'm able to get to being an insider.
I am expecting the beta to include:
Soft Proofing
HDR processing
Panorama Stitching
More refinement to the editing tools
Frames - similar to OnOne's product but contained in LR
Some movement and tools towards Cloud Compute - slideshow in the cloud and publish services linked to Web module.
Teathering should also move to the cloud but this may be a stretch given current technologies.
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Is it possible to HDR two RAW images? No point in in rendering two RAW files to Tiff and re importing them? :-\ It looks as if you want Photoshop fully integrated into Lightroom?
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If this is "what would people like in LR4", I'll add..
- better import from existing catalogues and/or XMP files (see other threads!)
- (A) finer resolution in selecting which attributes are cut-n-pasted from developer settings (to make updating older photographs with unset camera/lens combinations easier), or
- (B) the ability to perform more develop changes (such as enabling camera/lens profile) when right-clicking from library grid
- focus mask highlighting (C1 has this and helps a lot in the triage process)
- HDR processing that works
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I don't want more developing features in Lightroom if that is just going to require the latest and greatest processor to make it work. Would rather things like HDR and layering be left to Photoshop. As it is, the distortion correction features in Lightroom cause intolerable unresponsiveness with my 2 year old iMac. As far as development module features, I just want them to make them work better and more efficiently.
One thing that would be nice: being able to batch export at a variety of different sizes.
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I never understood why basic Operating System capabilities like in the Import Module Selecting SOME of the imported pictures from card or drive, other then selecting them one by one, or “Only New Pictures”, is not possible up to release 3.x.
I might do three different jobs on a 16 GB card, but importing is a hassle then, selecting three sets for the different keywords per set. No selection like (keyboard SHIFT) #1 to (keyboard SHIFT) #400 to select the first 400 is possible, out of 1200 pictures. One, by one, by one, by one, by …..
Pourquoi?
Suggestion for 4.0?!
Bas
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Because Library is meant for more detailed keywording. There's no point replicating its features in an Improt dialog box.
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Because Library is meant for more detailed keywording. There's no point replicating its features in an Improt dialog box.
Thank you John, but there are more reasons to be able to import only a selection of the available pictures. Why can I not shift-click on a number of pictures, out of a many, to prevent them from importing?
Bas
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Why can I not shift-click on a number of pictures, out of a many, to prevent them from importing?
RTFM...
Deselect all, select the first image you want and either shift select or command select none consecutive image the once selected click on the check mark on the upper left.
Really pretty simple if you have half a clue...
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I don't want more developing features in Lightroom if that is just going to require the latest and greatest processor to make it work. Would rather things like HDR and layering be left to Photoshop. As it is, the distortion correction features in Lightroom cause intolerable unresponsiveness with my 2 year old iMac. As far as development module features, I just want them to make them work better and more efficiently.
... don't use features if they cause you problems!
But more seriously, I think you've got the wrong expectations for the digital camera industry if you believe that older computers will be able to deal with new(er) software and cameras. Imagine in 2 years time that you're trying to work with 40MP pictures on a 4 year old computer. Do you think that's going to be pleasant?
It's a spiral staircase that leads onwards and upwards: faster processors and more RAM enable software to do more and people buy newer hardware to run the existing software as fast as they can afford, until newer software slows things down...
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RTFM...
Deselect all, select the first image you want and either shift select or command select none consecutive image the once selected click on the check mark on the upper left.
Really pretty simple if you have half a clue...
You're obnoxious. Guy asks a simple question and you have to abuse him.
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Terse and curt. But shewely not obnoxious.
Occassionally he is not up to decorum but let's face it. He selflessly takes a lot of time out of his day to help thousands of people use the software correctly. Perhaps we can forgive him if the occassional easily-answered-by-reading-the-manual question fails to bring out the best in him.
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You can in fact do that, although the implementation is dopey. Uncheck all. Select (not check) the first photo, shift+select the last photo, then check one of them. They'll all become checked.
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You're obnoxious.
Why yes, I am...and exactly what did you want to contribute to the dialog?
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Bas,
Perhaps the best solution for you is to use a fresh card for each job of a smaller variety, say 8 gig instead of 16. Certainly works great for me.
Rich
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I'd say don't mess around in the Import dialog any more than is strictly necessary. Sure, apply a few keywords that fit everything, but it's more important to get all the pictures under control in Lightroom's Library, with second backups, and to be completely confident that all files are safely copied to your computer. Then use Library's much more detailed keywording and other metadata features to start tagging the different groups of images.
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RTFM...
Deselect all, select the first image you want and either shift select or command select none consecutive image the once selected click on the check mark on the upper left.
Really pretty simple if you have half a clue...
Schewe, thanks for the help.
I fought myself through your English, but I succeeded and your solution works fine!
B.T.W., I ordered all my Lightroom versions via download. There are no F Manuals included.
No problemo, when it came out, I ordered the Entertaining and Instructive and Helpful LL LR3 Video.
Today I checked again this colorful video, it is episode 8 out of 53, to be precise.
Alas, nothing about my sub-selection question, and how to solve it, as you now did in a few words.
Again thank you, I hope other people who put this same question on the Adobe site (I read two similar questions in the past months) read it also.
Of course I can not compete with your knowledge, something I admire.
But I have a better figure.
Cheers,
Bas.
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Of course I can not compete with your knowledge, something I admire.
But I have a better figure.
Cheers,
Bas.
As charming put-downs go, that scores a 10 ;)
John
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I'm content with LR3 and PS CS5 combined. In this digital world, we have accelerated upgrades to this, upgrades to that, new software etc... honestly, where does it ever end? I suppose it does not, but at the rate of change in digital technology, there comes a point where one can get lost in trying to keep up with the latest technology instead what got us all onto this page in the first place, which for me is having a camera in my hands. Of course Adobe will keep coming out with new software, how else can they grow the business. But for me, I might just say: "Enough", and get back to the "film" days when photography was more about carrying a camera and less about sitting in front of a computer, yet alone trying to re-figure out another software "advancement".
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I'm content with LR3 and PS CS5 combined. In this digital world, we have accelerated upgrades to this, upgrades to that, new software etc... honestly, where does it ever end? I suppose it does not, but at the rate of change in digital technology, there comes a point where one can get lost in trying to keep up with the latest technology instead what got us all onto this page in the first place, which for me is having a camera in my hands. Of course Adobe will keep coming out with new software, how else can they grow the business. But for me, I might just say: "Enough", and get back to the "film" days when photography was more about carrying a camera and less about sitting in front of a computer, yet alone trying to re-figure out another software "advancement".
Totally....
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Of course I can not compete with your knowledge, something I admire.
But I have a better figure.
Well, I'm working on that...
I'm down 60lbs since last year. Still not what I would call svelte yet but getting there.
Glad you figured out how to select a subset in Import.
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B.T.W., I ordered all my Lightroom versions via download. There are no F Manuals included.
Actually, if you go to the Help menu and then to the main LR 3 Help site on Adobe you can click on a link in the upper right to download the LR 3 Help as a PDF. It's got an index and is 188 pages. The direct link to the 10MB PDF is: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Lightroom/3.0/Using/lightroom_3_help.pdf (http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Lightroom/3.0/Using/lightroom_3_help.pdf)
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Totally, Totally off subject but congrats to you Jeff on your progress in or should I say reduction in in the lbs field!
Stick with it!
I'm selfish in this - I want to be able to read your opinions and thoughts - pro and con of on whatever.
Regards
FG
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In this digital world, we have accelerated upgrades to this, upgrades to that, new software etc... honestly, where does it ever end?
With soft-proofing, maybe? ;)
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Well, I'm working on that...
I'm down 60lbs since last year. Still not what I would call svelte yet but getting there.
Glad you figured out how to select a subset in Import.
Congratulations about your loss! And I'm F serious about that!
I did not figured out how to tag a selected subset, you guided me.
In reaction on your post "LR3 PDF manual at Adobe HELP (...)" I thank you again. Was not aware of the existence. The tagged subset selection answer was not there too, so your first reply here was important. The not-so-obvious point is, that after the shift-click SELECTION of the subset, one should TAG any of the selected pictures and woops, the whole subset is tagged. But do not use the tag All Pictures...
(Yes that is what I did)
Cheers,
Bas
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I hope that we can expect a complete new set of shirts :o
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I hope that we can expect a complete new set of shirts :o
Well, I think I have so many I'll just have my wife shrink them...BTW some new shirts may appear in the next Camera To Print & Screen video Chris is editing now. We're gonna have a contest to "count the shirts" Mike and I wear :~)
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Well, I think I have so many I'll just have my wife shrink them...BTW some new shirts may appear in the next Camera To Print & Screen video Chris is editing now. We're gonna have a contest to "count the shirts" Mike and I wear :~)
And by the time the new C2P&S is released those shirts will be too big! Keep up the the great work!
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Well, I think I have so many I'll just have my wife shrink them...BTW some new shirts may appear in the next Camera To Print & Screen video Chris is editing now. We're gonna have a contest to "count the shirts" Mike and I wear :~)
That's a very difficult part not to fall into asleep when counting shirts with boring stripes.....
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Anyone else who wants to see better "distraction removal" technology in LR4?
If you also would love to see cloning/healing/patching brushes in LR4, you can -> vote for this feature request (http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom_more_photoshop_like_clone_healing_brushes_in_lightroom) at the (relatively) new Adobe "Photoshop Family" website. Just click on the "+1" button.
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Well, I'm working on that...
I'm down 60lbs since last year. Still not what I would call svelte yet but getting there.
Does this mean you are able to carry an 60lbs of extra photographic equipment, without sweating it, compared to last year? :)
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With soft-proofing, maybe? ;)
+100..........we can only hope!
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I am expecting a new beta in the fall. I drive past the new Adobe building on Rt 128 in Waltham MA every day. That's as close as I'm able to get to being an insider.
Ahh, but there is not much LR development happening in that building. There is another building nearby, however, where some interesting cooking is going on ... :)
Eric