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Equipment & Techniques => Landscape & Nature Photography => Topic started by: Iliah on March 19, 2011, 09:00:52 pm

Title: Low ISO poll
Post by: Iliah on March 19, 2011, 09:00:52 pm
1. Would you like your next camera to have ISO 25 and ISO 50 settings (native, not simulated)?

2. How often would you use those?

3. How useful do you think those are for landscape work (waterfalls, fountains, seashore scenes excluded)?

4. If your current camera has those low ISO settings how often and when do you use those?
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: Mike Guilbault on March 19, 2011, 11:33:00 pm
I loved Kodachrome 25 and would welcome a 'native' ISO 25 on my next camera.  Not only would it help with waterfalls and such, but also in the studio.  My Nikon's lowest native iso is 200 and I've got my strobes dialed down all the way and sometimes it's still not enough when I want to use larger apertures. 

Personally, I would use it more than I do the higher ISOs.

Now... give me a square format (like my old Hasselblad) along with ISO 25 on a Nikon and I'd be in heaven! ;)
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: degrub on March 19, 2011, 11:36:46 pm
If i can have Kodachrome back , then YES. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: NikoJorj on March 20, 2011, 09:27:17 am
As far as I am concerned, low ISO would surely cost me some handholdability for a very hypothetical gain (modern APSC or 24x36 sensors collect already plenty of photons not to be limited by shot noise, so no need to collect even more photons).

Now... give me a square format (like my old Hasselblad) along with ISO 25 on a Nikon and I'd be in heaven! ;)
Dead easy : two bits of black tape on the viewfinder piece and crop in your favorite treatment program. ;D
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: John R on March 20, 2011, 11:30:12 am
I don't think it really matters what the ISO is, as long the resolution is good and the noise is low. If at some point cameras can attain the quality of an image at ISO 200 that is as good (all the important factors) as any shot at ISO 100 or less, why bother with ISO's less than 100? This would be a niche camera for people who want slow shutter speeds.
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: wolfnowl on March 21, 2011, 02:04:46 am
I loved Kodachrome 25 and would welcome a 'native' ISO 25 on my next camera.  Not only would it help with waterfalls and such, but also in the studio.  My Nikon's lowest native iso is 200 and I've got my strobes dialed down all the way and sometimes it's still not enough when I want to use larger apertures. 

Personally, I would use it more than I do the higher ISOs.

Now... give me a square format (like my old Hasselblad) along with ISO 25 on a Nikon and I'd be in heaven! ;)

Us Mike's have to stick together.  Kodachrome 25 was my favourite film of all time, and while those days are gone, the really low ISO was wonderful for some landscape work.  I'd use it a lot.

Mike.
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: JohnBrew on March 21, 2011, 07:33:57 am
1. Oh, heck yeah.
2. 40%
3. Most useful.
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: ErikKaffehr on March 21, 2011, 05:10:33 pm
1) Yes, if I would have significantly increased dynamic range, but I seldom need it.

2) Seldom

3) Not at all

4) Don't have and don't use. Would use if I considered it to be beneficial to image quality.

Best regards
Erik


1. Would you like your next camera to have ISO 25 and ISO 50 settings (native, not simulated)?

2. How often would you use those?

3. How useful do you think those are for landscape work (waterfalls, fountains, seashore scenes excluded)?

4. If your current camera has those low ISO settings how often and when do you use those?
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: riddell on March 22, 2011, 01:58:24 pm

Yes. Love it, as long of course that it really is making a difference. I already cannot see any noise at ISO100, but if it was able to capture colours more richly....

And I'd use it all the time with landscapes and architectural photography.

Of course the downside with digitial could be that inherant problem of noise being invoked in long exposures....

Paul.
www.photographybyriddell.co.uk
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: digitaldog on March 22, 2011, 02:48:18 pm
Only if the lower ISO actually produced a visual improvement  (duh). IOW, just having ISO 25 isn’t going to make this digital Koadchrome. And someone has to test this to ensure its not another marketing gimmick. The lower setting actually provides a useful  benefit.
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: Iliah on March 22, 2011, 02:52:36 pm
Well, Andrew, this is not just about pixel quality - it is more about photographic bag of tricks.
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: digitaldog on March 22, 2011, 02:54:27 pm
Well, Andrew, this is not just about pixel quality - it is more about photographic bag of tricks.

How so? I don’t understand (photographic bag of tricks)?

I guess in leu of an ND filter in some situations, yes, that be useful. I’m not sure how often that’s necessary.
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: Iliah on March 22, 2011, 03:03:53 pm
Let the poll run for some time more please. We can discuss a little later, or via e-mail.
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: bper on March 30, 2011, 04:08:42 pm
Hi all - This is my first post here, so hope I do it right. I have often thought that a low ISO would be helpful and let you eliminate using ND filters on many occasions. I don't like to use filters unless needed (just more glass in the way).

My current camera is a Nikon D80 with a base ISO of 100. I have often thought it would be nice to have 25, but would not use it unless needed (as the OP said, waterfalls, streams etc). I do use 100 much of the time on my tripod if I'm not worried about freezing action.

I doubt that 25 would give you any gain on the noise level over 100 or 200, unless that was the base ISO of the camera (another point we can debate) - Bruce
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: wildstork on March 30, 2011, 09:45:34 pm
1.  I'd like them both.  I'm doing some work with moving water and the 25iso would be most useful as it would eliminate the need for my use of neutral density filters.

2. I'd use these low iso's 100% of the time for the specific work requiring long exposure/slow shutter speeds and about 60% of the time for some other landscape work I do.

3.  They'd be very useful to me.  It's one thing I miss about film.

4. My DMR has 100 iso as it's lowest speed so I use neutral density filters to achieve the effect lower iso's would do without filters.
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: Michael West on April 04, 2011, 11:09:41 pm
My Canon 5DMKII has a 50iso setting which I have yet to make use of.
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: OnlyNorth on April 05, 2011, 03:11:05 am
Hi,
1.No
2.Not at all.
3.Not at all.
4.I should not use it.
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: telyt on April 06, 2011, 07:22:25 am
1. Would you like your next camera to have ISO 25 and ISO 50 settings (native, not simulated)?

Nope.

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2. How often would you use those?

Rarely if ever

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3. How useful do you think those are for landscape work (waterfalls, fountains, seashore scenes excluded)?

Could be handy, not my typical subjects.

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4. If your current camera has those low ISO settings how often and when do you use those?

In 5 years I've used the DMR's 100 ISO twice, maybe.  Otherwise I use ISO 400.
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: Kerry L on April 06, 2011, 09:59:05 am
1. Would you like your next camera to have ISO 25 and ISO 50 settings (native, not simulated)?
2. How often would you use those?
3. How useful do you think those are for landscape work (waterfalls, fountains, seashore scenes excluded)?
4. If your current camera has those low ISO settings how often and when do you use those?

1 - only if there is an improvement in images, i.e. increased DR and/or low(er) noise in the shadow areas
2 - 200 is the speed I use for +90%, so infrequently
3 - would be useful for some landscape work but only ...... see response to #1
4 - currently use 200 on a D3 and I'm happy although would like better DR . Have never used the LO-ISO function available on camera

I too used Kodachrome and although I don't really miss the low speed, I do miss the "look" and would be more interested in a camera with a KM - KR look.
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: langier on April 07, 2011, 05:32:42 pm
1. Nice, but I can work around this.
2. When I need to run the lens wide-open and run fill-in flash at the maximum non-HS sync. Normally, I'm using iso 400 for most of my shooting.
3. It would be OK, but one would still need good ND filters, even with iso 25 shooting water.
4. I used L-1 (iso 100) yesterday shooting fill-in flash in afternoon sunlight to avoid stopping down since I was shooting people.
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: Brian Carey on April 12, 2011, 11:11:59 am
I used to use Ektar 25 for landscapes, loved it. Low iso's can help you achieve certain effects thru composition. I've only used iso50 once on my 5D2, I needed it to get the effect I needed (come to think of it I could have used a polarizer to gain the stop).

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4100/4775643511_0e02492338_z.jpg)

Like some people say there are work arounds.

Regards from Canada's Far East
Brian Carey
Title: Re: Low ISO poll
Post by: Zzyzx on May 08, 2011, 08:14:16 pm
Really wish it would have an ISO 25 and even down to 6 as I used to shoot film in this range.

As long as it is as crisp and clean as Kodachrome 25 and Tech Pan was I would be happy with it.