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Equipment & Techniques => For Sale => Topic started by: barry685 on February 04, 2011, 03:28:21 pm

Title: SOLD! Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: barry685 on February 04, 2011, 03:28:21 pm
Selling an Epson Golden Ticket for $250.00. This ticket can be used for a $500.00 rebate in addition to the current $500.00 rebate towards the purchase of an Epson 4900, 7890, or 9890.

This link describes the terms and conditions:

http://www.epson.com/_alfresco/proimaging/promotions/printers/Q4-2010/C33384_SP4900-7890-9890_$500_CPN.pdf
Title: Re: Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: digitaldog on February 04, 2011, 03:50:20 pm
The terms are somewhat a concern:

Offer applies to end user, original customers only. No resellers, distributors or dealers. Offer is not transferable.
Title: Re: Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: barry685 on February 04, 2011, 04:00:08 pm
I am the end user. I received the ticket at the Photo Expo show at Javitz Intended to purchase a 4900 but changed my mind.
Title: Re: Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: digitaldog on February 04, 2011, 04:01:52 pm
Understood, but can you sell it (wouldn’t that be a transfer)?

I’m not a lawyer nor play one on TV. But its possible you are stuck with it. Dunno.
Title: Re: Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: barry685 on February 04, 2011, 04:06:24 pm
Andrew,
There is nothing on the ticket to link it to any specific person. It is generic. If you found the ticket on the street it would be perfectly valid as far as I know.
Title: Re: Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: Joe Behar on February 04, 2011, 05:47:20 pm
I am the end user. I received the ticket at the Photo Expo show at Javitz Intended to purchase a 4900 but changed my mind.

I'm going to go on a rant here and I don't particularly care what anyone thinks....

You were presented with a discount coupon in order to encourage you to buy a product. You not only decided not to buy the product, but to profit from the goodwill gesture of either a dealer or manufacturer.

I will go on record as offering a golden ticket to any end users that want to buy a qualifyiung printer from me. I am an authorized dealer and have a number of them available. The golden tickets expire at the end of this month.

I'm frankly sick and tired of some of the people here that have nothing better to do than badmouth dealers, go behind their backs to do shady deals and then complain that we don't offer rock bottom prices along with instant service an unlimited inventory.

What f***ing great way to end the week...I'm outta here.
Title: Re: Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: Joe Behar on February 04, 2011, 09:51:29 pm
I can assure you that in Canada, anyway, both golden tickets and mail in rebates CAN be used together.
Title: Re: Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: johnATshadesofpaper on February 05, 2011, 12:17:47 pm
They are stackable in the USA as well. Each of the tickets are serial numbered , I think so they know which dealers they came from. The printer must be invoiced by the end of feb for the golden ticket to be valid.
Title: Re: Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: barry685 on February 05, 2011, 06:39:03 pm
I'm going to go on a rant here and I don't particularly care what anyone thinks....

I'm frankly sick and tired of some of the people here that have nothing better to do than badmouth dealers, go behind their backs to do shady deals and then complain that we don't offer rock bottom prices along with instant service an unlimited inventory.

Where in my post did I complain or badmouth any dealers?
Title: Re: Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: barry685 on February 05, 2011, 07:07:19 pm
Both the Golden Ticket AND the $500 rebate coupon say they each can not be used with other promotions. Buyer beware, but if anyone here wants to give away $250, email me and I'll send the address ::)

I have verified by calling the phone number on the rebate form that it is a stackable rebate and both rebates will be honored. The golden ticket explicitly says on it:

" This offer may be combined with other Epson Stylus Pro Rebate offers."
Title: Re: Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: degrub on February 05, 2011, 08:07:14 pm
perhaps it is more the idea of someone profiting from something given free that rankles.

Frank
Title: Re: Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: barry685 on February 05, 2011, 08:24:24 pm
perhaps it is more the idea of someone profiting from something given free that rankles.

Frank

Is the glass half full or half empty?  :)
Title: Re: SOLD! Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: Randy Carone on February 07, 2011, 11:30:33 am
"perhaps it is more the idea of someone profiting from something given free that rankles."
Barry,

Careful about how much you protest. I think degrub got it right, no? You don't want to go there!
Title: Re: SOLD! Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: barry685 on February 07, 2011, 12:27:31 pm
I actually think it is an interesting debate.
Title: Re: SOLD! Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: stevebri on February 08, 2011, 01:44:34 pm
This is the USA...  Nowhere on the planet are such offers, deals, combo's etc such a big part of the whole marketing shtick...

Live and let live... if Epson were at all bothered by this they wouldn't have given them out without taking a name,address and phone number would they....?

All they want is your money... we are in a recession are we not... all they care about as sales, sales and more sales... so however they get a sale doesn't worry them.  So a guy buys a $500 off ticket for $250... what has Epson lost...?  Nothing, they have gained a sale at a price they can do business with...

I don't see the debate at all...  do enlighten me....?


As for doing Epson a favour...?  come on... do me a favour and help make Epson bring down the price of gold... sorry I mean ink.....

S
Title: Re: SOLD! Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: Joe Behar on February 08, 2011, 02:28:27 pm
The debate, and my objections, have nothing to do with Epson, but rather with someone profiting from the goodwill of others and possibly not being as ethical as one would expect. As I stated in a peivious post, as a dealer, I will offer buyers of qualifying printers a golden ticket for $0.00 (as long as they are within my allowed region in which I can sel Epson products) I am also very, very confident that there are Epson dealers across the continent that are willing to do the same thing, so there is no need to pay for them.

As a side note, I can assure you the golden ticket in question was given in error. These tickets all have unique serial numbers and are to be accounted for by dealers.

You may find this difficult to believe, but there are actually dealers out there (like me) that really do want thier clients to get the best possible value.

Title: SOLD! Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: Randy Carone on February 08, 2011, 03:09:50 pm
stevebri,

Check your private messages.

Joe,

I couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: SOLD! Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: John McDermott on February 08, 2011, 05:48:03 pm
I'm confused. What is it about "Offer is not transferable" that is hard to understand?
Title: Re: SOLD! Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: BobDavid on February 08, 2011, 08:54:03 pm
The debate, and my objections, have nothing to do with Epson, but rather with someone profiting from the goodwill of others and possibly not being as ethical as one would expect. As I stated in a peivious post, as a dealer, I will offer buyers of qualifying printers a golden ticket for $0.00 (as long as they are within my allowed region in which I can sel Epson products) I am also very, very confident that there are Epson dealers across the continent that are willing to do the same thing, so there is no need to pay for them.

As a side note, I can assure you the golden ticket in question was given in error. These tickets all have unique serial numbers and are to be accounted for by dealers.

You may find this difficult to believe, but there are actually dealers out there (like me) that really do want thier clients to get the best possible value.


I agree with this. Another thing about good dealers or VARs: they pick up the phone and give you product support when you need to get a question answered. They will also go to bat for you if you've got issues with a piece of faulty equipment you've purchased from a given manufacturer. I've never had a problem paying a premium for outstanding customer service. And by the way, I'm a self-employed working photographer. I do detest the idea of someone profiting off of something that wasn't intended to be sold or resold by unauthorized individuals.
Title: Re: SOLD! Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: ddavid on February 08, 2011, 10:32:34 pm
What an icky thread! Even scalpers sell something they paid for, not gifts.
Title: Re: SOLD! Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: justiny on February 09, 2011, 10:59:30 am
It's a very interesting debate. And it's all about Capitalism.

The ultimate question here is whether anyone can make money out of something without putting labor in it.
In other words, anything without labor worth nothing. I think it's a healthy attitude. But things do not work that way all the time.

I think Barry earned it. He went to the show and asked for it. If you don't ask, you don't get it.
Epson would not care for sure because it's obvious that they are willing to sell certain number of printers for less money.
And I am sure there are not many tickets out there. How? In a free market, demand creates value. Someone is willing to pay $250 to save $500.

Barry happened to have one ticket and capitalized the value of it.
I think there is nothing wrong with that so long as he legally obtained it.

What if Barry is so nice and gives it to you for free, he will be free from finger pointing. How about you?
Are you going to say 'thank you' and save $500? Is there any labor involved?

What Barry did was reasonable. Barry could have asked $400 for it.

I have one ticket. If I don't use it, I will give it away in exchange for a nice picture. ^^

Have a wonderful day!
 

 



Title: Re: SOLD! Epson Golden Ticket
Post by: Randy Carone on February 09, 2011, 02:03:02 pm
justiny,

Check your private messages.