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Equipment & Techniques => Cameras, Lenses and Shooting gear => Topic started by: dwood on February 21, 2010, 07:03:05 pm
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I've been thinking about picking up a Gitzo GT3531 but have also been reading about the new Induro 8x series...specifically the CT313. I'm familiar with MR's review of the older generation Induro's but was wondering if anyone is using any of these new versions. Any thoughts on these things vs the tried and true Gitzo's? I shoot a Sony a900 with the largest lens currently being a 70-300G.
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I use the GT3540 (which is the 4 part predecessor of the GT3531). I totally love it and think it is worth every cent. You spend the money once and you will enjoy the tripod long after you have forgotten how much it has cost you
Before this one I used the 1348 and was not particularly happy with that one mainly because of the way the lock on the leg worked. In the new series this has been fixed.
I cannot tell you about the induro but I did try various other brands and none of them came close to the Gitzo. I understand the Induro does, I did not want to take a chance just to save a couple of hunderd on legs.
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I use the GT3540 (which is the 4 part predecessor of the GT3531). I totally love it and think it is worth every cent. You spend the money once and you will enjoy the tripod long after you have forgotten how much it has cost you
Before this one I used the 1348 and was not particularly happy with that one mainly because of the way the lock on the leg worked. In the new series this has been fixed.
I cannot tell you about the induro but I did try various other brands and none of them came close to the Gitzo. I understand the Induro does, I did not want to take a chance just to save a couple of hunderd on legs.
Thanks for the feedback Dustbak. I'm sure I'd be just as happy with the Gitzo as you are. I'm just trying to determine if the Induro would provide similar performance at a bit of a cost savings.
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I've been thinking about picking up a Gitzo GT3531 but have also been reading about the new Induro 8x series...specifically the CT313. I'm familiar with MR's review of the older generation Induro's but was wondering if anyone is using any of these new versions. Any thoughts on these things vs the tried and true Gitzo's? I shoot a Sony a900 with the largest lens currently being a 70-300G.
I recommend looking at the Hakuba carbon fiber tripods. I paired one with an AcraTech ballhead and the combo has performed flawlessly with a Nikon D700 and up to 300mm lens. Gitzos are fine but you pay a premium because of the name and to fund all of their ads.
Available from B&H.
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I recommend looking at the Hakuba carbon fiber tripods. I paired one with an AcraTech ballhead and the combo has performed flawlessly with a Nikon D700 and up to 300mm lens. Gitzos are fine but you pay a premium because of the name and to fund all of their ads.
Available from B&H.
Thanks for the tip Peter. I wasn't even aware of the Hakuba, but I'll definitely check this out.
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Thanks for the tip Peter. I wasn't even aware of the Hakuba, but I'll definitely check this out.
If you're looking at other carbon fiber tripods you might consider Feisol and Benro.
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i'm very satisfied with my Feisol 3441 for light weight, rigidity and convenience.
i have an old aluminum Gitzo and i don't think that their margin of superiority is that great over the best of the competition today
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I currently have 2 induros and can't imagine spending more. I use my mf back on them and can't imagine what more the gitzos would do for $300-400 more each. I have both the new and old versions and the new are a big step forward
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I currently have 2 induros and can't imagine spending more. I use my mf back on them and can't imagine what more the gitzos would do for $300-400 more each. I have both the new and old versions and the new are a big step forward
Thanks for this rogan. It's good to know of someone who's using the Induro and is happy about the product.
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I have an Induro C413 I use for portrait work, but I prefer not using a center column for landscape work and Induro didn't (and maybe still doesn't?) have that option. I use the Arca swiss cube and attached to the Gitzo 3541 XL it just seems more stable. I use the RRS BH-55 on the Induro, and it's a nice combination for portrait work where I do use the center column to adjust camera angle.
That being said, the center column locks very securely on the Induro and even though that might raise the center of gravity and technically be less stable, it isn't bad either. I've used the cube on it and it's performed well, but I've never actually done any testing to verify the gitzo actually is more stable. It's more a matter of best practices .. with the p65 back you just have to do everything you possibly can to ensure good captures, because it quickly reveals any and all flaws in your technique. everyone says don't use a center column and many of them are much better and more knowledgeable than I am.
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I have an Induro C413 I use for portrait work, but I prefer not using a center column for landscape work and Induro didn't (and maybe still doesn't?) have that option. I use the Arca swiss cube and attached to the Gitzo 3541 XL it just seems more stable. I use the RRS BH-55 on the Induro, and it's a nice combination for portrait work where I do use the center column to adjust camera angle.
That being said, the center column locks very securely on the Induro and even though that might raise the center of gravity and technically be less stable, it isn't bad either. I've used the cube on it and it's performed well, but I've never actually done any testing to verify the gitzo actually is more stable. It's more a matter of best practices .. with the p65 back you just have to do everything you possibly can to ensure good captures, because it quickly reveals any and all flaws in your technique. everyone says don't use a center column and many of them are much better and more knowledgeable than I am.
Thanks for the info. Wayne. I use the RSS BH-55 as well. Sounds like the Induro could be a decent choice.
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Hi,
I second that. To my best knowledge Hakuba is also sold under the Velbon name. I have a Velbon Sherpa Pro 630 in addition to my new Gitzo GT3541LS. I have been very satisfied with the Velbon. I also liked the Acratech Ultimate Ballhead, except that I want a level type QR.
Best regards
Erik
Thanks for the tip Peter. I wasn't even aware of the Hakuba, but I'll definitely check this out.
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Another Induro user here (the new series, CT414).
Very nice handling!
I like the bold rubber grip leg locks.
I am using it with medium format and a tech camera... no trouble at all by now.
The fat center column doesn't introduce shake as long as it is not extended.
I do need the center column anyhow for the additional height so a tripod without center column is not practical for me personally.
The over sized center column lock is a bit tight but maybe that get's better if you unlock/lock it often.
The buble level is ludicrous.
I much prefer my wood tripods as they reduce even heavy shake within a second (or two).
But if I have to carry the tripod a long way I take the Induro (of course, that's why I bought it).
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Just an afterthought, based on my recent experience with Gitzo in the Middle East - choose the tripod that has the best after sales customer service!
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A dog knocked my Gitzo over and the metal piece where the legs mount broke in pieces. Gitzo would not replace it.
So I went with Manfrotto carbon fiber and love it. No more pinched fingers, and the locks are much faster to boot.
I recently upgraded to the 055CXV3 and they have made many small improvements. It's a joy to use.
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A small plastic piece inside one of my Manfrotto legs broke, allowing the lower end of the leg to fall out. This was during light and infrequent use. Manfrotto did fix it...for $85! I now use a Gitzo, but were I to shop for a tripod now I would take a serious look at the new legs from Really Right Stuff. Like all RRS products, they appear to be of top quality with a price to match...and a 6 week waiting list! Back to the posters original question...My choice when I replaced the Manfrotto was Gitzo or Induro. They both seemed very good. My dealer (whom I trust) recommended the Gitzo as being higher quality. In reality, I probably settled on the Gitzo because of the name!
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I conaned a foot off of my feisol once. They sent me a replacement set from the other side of the planet for free. (I had to provide my own glue.) Had em in like 2 days. I'm a fan.
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Gitzo is manufactured by Manfrotto.
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Like all RRS products, they appear to be of top quality with a price to match...and a 6 week waiting list!
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The initial look at the RRS TVC-33 will give a person "sticker shock". The TVC-33, however, has the stability and load factor of a Gitzo 55xx and the weight of a 3541xx. A Gitzo 55xx with a safety plate is $65USD more than the RRS.
Steve
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As an avid bicyclist, it appears to me that RRS has taken something bicycle manufacturers have recently discovered and used it in their tripods. That is, a larger diameter but thinner walled carbon fiber tube is stronger and has better vibration dampening than a smaller diameter and thicker walled tube. And the larger diameter tube weighs less also.
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A small plastic piece inside one of my Manfrotto legs broke, allowing the lower end of the leg to fall out. This was during light and infrequent use.
You too, eh? My Gitzo did the same thing (same company as Manfrotto) and the replacement part has been backordered for more than a month. Sigh.
Neil
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You too, eh? My Gitzo did the same thing (same company as Manfrotto) and the replacement part has been backordered for more than a month. Sigh.
Neil
Me too...
Steve
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After using a Manfrotto 190CXPro4 for almost two years, I finally had enough of cheap tripods. I just picked up a Gitzo GT3531S yesterday and I used it today out in the swamp. I am VERY pleased with my purchase. Very sturdy and easy to use. I should have done this a long time ago.
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After using a Manfrotto 190CXPro4 for almost two years, I finally had enough of cheap tripods. I just picked up a Gitzo GT3531S yesterday and I used it today out in the swamp. I am VERY pleased with my purchase. Very sturdy and easy to use. I should have done this a long time ago.
It took me five years of of being frustrated with mid-priced tripods before deciding that it wasn't crazy to get a good tripod system. If I had gotten a Gitzo, ARCA, RRS, Kirk, etc then, I would have save money.
Steve
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It took me five years of of being frustrated with mid-priced tripods before deciding that it wasn't crazy to get a good tripod system. If I had gotten a Gitzo, ARCA, RRS, Kirk, etc then, I would have save money.
Steve
No one ever believes Thom Hogan's article on the subject before they've gone through one or two bouncy tripods...
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Dark Penguin -that is so true. My tripod buying experience was exactly how Hogan described - just wish I'd read his article earlier on and saved myself a lot of hassle. Then again, my own "Gitzo in the Gulf" experience has been pretty grim from a Customer Service point of view ...
For what it's worth, as Thomas and some others have pointed out, Gitzo and Manfrotto (maybe more?) are now owned by a company called Vitek.
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No one ever believes Thom Hogan's article on the subject before they've gone through one or two bouncy tripods...
Exactly...Five to six years ago, when I starting taking a interest in photography, I read all of the stuff about how important a tripod was and buy good , etc., you can afford it. I guess it is a common story..pay now or pay more later.
Steve
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Dark Penguin -that is so true. My tripod buying experience was exactly how Hogan described - just wish I'd read his article earlier on and saved myself a lot of hassle. Then again, my own "Gitzo in the Gulf" experience has been pretty grim from a Customer Service point of view ...
For what it's worth, as Thomas and some others have pointed out, Gitzo and Manfrotto (maybe more?) are now owned by a company called Vitek.
RRS customer service is quit responsive but, without a dealer "network", I don't know how well it would work outside of the US.
Steve
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What I like about gitzo is that they have models that don't have any centre column. Even if it's not used, they compromise stability and add weight.
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What I like about gitzo is that they have models that don't have any centre column. Even if it's not used, they compromise stability and add weight.
I have the center column and the fixed plate for my feisol. Gives one some flexibility although it does require the use of a screwdriver to swap them.
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I use a Gitzo without the center column with a head that falls largely into the bowl of the tripod, I had to take the plate of the legs to do so. A sturdier connection is hardly thinkable.
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Dark Penguin -that is so true. My tripod buying experience was exactly how Hogan described - just wish I'd read his article earlier on and saved myself a lot of hassle. Then again, my own "Gitzo in the Gulf" experience has been pretty grim from a Customer Service point of view ...
For what it's worth, as Thomas and some others have pointed out, Gitzo and Manfrotto (maybe more?) are now owned by a company called Vitek.
I had bought a studex compact performance and a Telestudex performance many years ago, with a "lifetime" warranty. Somewhere along the way, Gitzo changed importers and the warranties were no longer valid. Of course I didn't know this until I had a failure with my Telestudex and wanted to get it repaired. While I'm 100% in the "buy it once and buy right" camp, Gitzo will never get another penny of my business ever again.