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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: jclipperton on December 14, 2009, 07:27:11 am

Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: jclipperton on December 14, 2009, 07:27:11 am
hi all - this is my first post on here. I've been specialising in the 360 degree format for a couple of years now. It's not everyones cup of tea I know, but I really enjoy creating the images. I took the one below very recently....

(http://www.pbase.com/clippo/image/120214537/large.jpg)

larger version in my galleries here: http://www.pbase.com/clippo/image/120214537 (http://www.pbase.com/clippo/image/120214537/large.jpg)

any comments welcome!
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: cmi on December 14, 2009, 11:36:24 am
jclipperton,

welcome to the forum

The image is very atmospheric, I like it very much from what I see, but even the "big" version is too small to judge or to appreciate it fully.

Cheers,

Christian
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: jclipperton on December 14, 2009, 11:55:44 am
thanks - yeah, I originally posted the wrong link there and even after correction it doesn't seem to be going to the right location.

If you copy and past the URL into your browser it should work. Chose 'original' res under the image to view the largest display size (this of course is still much smaller than the original which is an 8 image stitch).
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: francois on December 14, 2009, 11:56:55 am
I also like it very much although a larger version would help.
From the small photo you posted, I can say that the illuminated sky and the cloud formations are really fantastic.
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: francois on December 14, 2009, 11:58:41 am
The large version seems to be here: http://www.pbase.com/clippo/image/120214537/original (http://www.pbase.com/clippo/image/120214537/original)
A truly fantastic image, indeed! Congrats.
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 14, 2009, 01:29:55 pm
Quote from: francois
The large version seems to be here: http://www.pbase.com/clippo/image/120214537/original (http://www.pbase.com/clippo/image/120214537/original)
A truly fantastic image, indeed! Congrats.
 Yes, the "original" is fantastic.
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: RSL on December 14, 2009, 02:58:04 pm
I'm not a big fan of landscape but this is a stunning piece of work. Bravo!
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: jclipperton on December 15, 2009, 05:04:56 am
wow thanks folks - comments like that really make my day.

I was considering putting ablack border around this one and maybe printing it. I think it will print at nearly 2 metres wide at 300dpi (I don't know if that makes sense as I am very inexperienced with the printing side of things). I'd like to frame it under a simple 'edgeless' sheet of glass but again I'm pretty inexperienced here.
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: RSL on December 15, 2009, 12:17:36 pm
J, I think your idea of the "edgeless" sheet of glass is great. I can imagine this beautiful thing in a print 2 meters wide under glass. I'd suggest not doing the black border, even though when I frame prints I use black aluminum sectionals. To me, this scene doesn't want to be confined. It wants to be as open as possible. Since you haven't filled out your profile, I have no way to know where you are or whether or not you have printing equipment capable of doing the kind of printing you're suggesting, but if not you probably can find a shop that can do both the printing and framing. It's certainly worth the trouble and the expense. I photograph nearly every day, year round, and I consider myself fortunate if I average something as fine as this once a year.
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: jclipperton on December 16, 2009, 04:16:46 am
thanks - sorry yes will complete my profile!

I don't have my own print facilities but I do have a contact at work who has offered to help (I work in admin for a University that has a large Fine Art department). They have a massive printer..... will have to find out what model it is.

I like the idea of leaving it borderless..... so if I used glass, would I just attach the image to the back of the glass with clear adhesive? would it need something else on the back? how would I go about attaching it to a wall (guess it would be heavy).

Is low iron content glass ever used for this purpose (for high clarity properties)? is there a more lightweight option?
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: jclipperton on December 17, 2009, 04:23:49 am
quick update... looks like I may have the opportunity to get this printed in the New Year on an Epson Stylus Pro 9800.
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: RSL on December 17, 2009, 11:01:50 am
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quick update... looks like I may have the opportunity to get this printed in the New Year on an Epson Stylus Pro 9800.

John, That's very good news. Next you need to talk to someone who's an expert on framing. I do a lot of framing, but it's all pretty normal stuff -- as I said above, with black sectional aluminum frames, so I'm no expert. But I'm sure there's a way to do your edgeless glass frame. No, you certainly don't want to stick the picture to the back of the glass. The picture should be mounted on some sort of mounting board -- foam core possibly. It'll probably need to be dry-mounted. That's supposed to be a no-no for fine art prints, but Ansel Adams dry-mounted his prints, so I figure I can dry-mounting my own. And there needs to be some space between the mounting and the glass. If there isn't you'll get condensation between the print and the glass that will wreck the print. Finally, the whole thing needs to be sealed at the edges.

Good luck with it. I wish I could see the final product, but it's a long way from Colorado (or Florida, where I'll be in a couple more weeks) to Cheshire.
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: jclipperton on December 18, 2009, 06:09:35 am
thanks Russ - that is extremely useful information. Hopefully someone in the department will be able to help me out. Failing that I will attempt to gather materials myself. If I manage to get it framed I'll certainly aim to post a picture of it!
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: LoisWakeman on December 18, 2009, 09:13:02 am
Quote from: jclipperton
thanks Russ - that is extremely useful information. Hopefully someone in the department will be able to help me out. Failing that I will attempt to gather materials myself. If I manage to get it framed I'll certainly aim to post a picture of it!
The photo is stunning! I imagine it will look really impressive printed large.

If you have a lot of money to spare, I imagine it would look great in one of those acrylic sandwich mounts - I have seen some large photo prints at an exhibition, and it really adds polish and sparkle to the presentation. This company (http://www.photoartistry.co.uk/page.php?pageid=15) in the UK does them and I am sure they must be available elsewhere.
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: Colorwave on December 18, 2009, 01:15:13 pm
Stunning seems to be as good an adjective as any, so I will throw the word stunning your way as well.  I'm sure you must have been thrilled that mother nature felt like showing off when you were there to record such a beautiful scene.  You can opt for a simple frameless approach with museum clips to hold the sandwich of mounting board, print and glass together, or go with a more expensive approach and have the print facemounted, by glueing it to the back of the glass or acrylic with an optically clear adhesive.  Because of the high failure rate, though, many places that do that type of mounting are not willing to do so with supplied prints, wanting to do the printing themselves to hedge their bets.  
Welcome to LL, and thanks for sharing this.
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: mattpallante on December 18, 2009, 01:59:34 pm
John, I was blown away when I saw the image large. Beautiful work!

Matt
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: jclipperton on December 21, 2009, 06:02:02 am
many thanks for all the comments folks.

Quite a few options to consider there, thanks.... have to admit that I don't have much money to spend on this so the simpler the better. Maybe when my photography makes me rich and famous I'll be able to afford that acrylic sandwich mount! (£400 for my size image!!)
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: RSL on December 22, 2009, 11:02:06 am
John, If the print of that photograph is as fine as I suspect it will be, you might be able to get help from a gallery proprietor. If I had a photo gallery -- with the right clientele -- I'd seriously consider helping you print and frame that picture. I'd be almost certain I could sell it quickly. Of course you'd probably have to take the unconscionably absurd step of "editioning" your prints -- in other words limiting the number you'd make, and numbering them as if they were etchings from a plate that deteriorates. In any case, you might want to make a copy with your copyright added so that it limits the ability of anyone to steal your work, and reduce the size of the file so that a high-quality large print would be impossible, then put the result on some CD's and hand them out to a few galleries, offering a consignment arrangement of some sort.
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: jclipperton on December 23, 2009, 07:33:32 am
thanks Russ.... I'll make a few enquiries. Have resized the image btw.
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: JamiePeters on December 24, 2009, 12:08:59 am
Would like to see the original print.  This is the problem its small so hard to see the detail, but very lovely.  JP
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: jclipperton on December 27, 2009, 04:52:02 am
I haven't printed it yet Jamie....

Anyone know how much stuff like this sells for?
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: RSL on December 27, 2009, 10:00:01 am
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I haven't printed it yet Jamie....

Anyone know how much stuff like this sells for?

John, If you're going to go the gallery route, best to talk to the proprietor about prices. A lot depends on the gallery's clientele. The proprietor, if he's successful, will have a pretty good idea of what his traffic will bear. If it's too little for you to make a buck (or a shilling as the case may be) after the gallery's commission, you have to look for a different gallery.
Title: Blakemere Moss 360
Post by: jclipperton on January 07, 2010, 06:35:42 am
managed to get another shoot in.... the moss in the original image is actually only about half a mile from this location. Again this is a 360 degree image although this was taken at a slightly longer focal length.