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Equipment & Techniques => Motion & Video => Topic started by: Mike W on October 13, 2009, 06:55:55 pm
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Hi everyone.
Im looking into buying either the Canon 5D mark II or a 7D.
I'm looking into the 7D because of it's native 24fps full HD in contrast to the 5D's 30fps.
I have some experience with shooting video and editing in final cut pro.
Since the 7D doesn't record sound "on board", one needs a sound mixer.
Does anyone have experience with any of these? I've seen and operated one back in school, but it was professional and expensive.
I'm looking for a mixer that costs a maximum of 400 dollars.
Any suggestions?
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Hi Mike,
I would suggest posting this question on Cinema5D (http://www.cinema5d.com) if you haven't done so already as it's a far more active forum for DSLR video shooters.
Cheers,
Derryck.
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Hi everyone.
Im looking into buying either the Canon 5D mark II or a 7D.
I'm looking into the 7D because of it's native 24fps full HD in contrast to the 5D's 30fps.
I have some experience with shooting video and editing in final cut pro.
Since the 7D doesn't record sound "on board", one needs a sound mixer.
Does anyone have experience with any of these? I've seen and operated one back in school, but it was professional and expensive.
I'm looking for a mixer that costs a maximum of 400 dollars.
Any suggestions?
The 7d does record sound onboard
it has an internal mic (rubbish)
and a small jack pug to put you own mic in
the sound level is stuck on auto though !
Thats why people want seperate sound and for better 'resolution' and control that a proper sound recorder brings
The mic input does not provide 'pantom power' which some mics need
Companies like beachtek make a preamp that can disable the auto gain
also there is no way to monitor what you are recording
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IMO it is useful to collect ambient but care or another solution is required for interviews
S
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Thanks guys,
I got in a conversation with a employee at a local Apple store who shoots video on a 7D too.
He suggested a couple of devices which don't cost all too much.
I'm gonna look into it, and post my findings in this thread.
regards,
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You don't need a mixer at all. I'd suggest looking into a Zoom H4n (which a lot of other 5D/7D users are running). It's a standalone unit and uses SD cards -- you can then use a standard card reader to copy the audio files to your machine when it's editing time. You'll have to sync up audio + video when you load it all up in FCP (which is not hard if you have someone clap or setup a clap board or some such). There is also software that helps do this for you (I forget the name) .. but I've never used it as I've never had a hard time lining up the audio by hand. There are a couple of tips you'll want to follow if you go this route with a Zoom -- but nothing serious and it's easier to worry about that bit once you decide
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Thanks guys,
I got in a conversation with a employee at a local Apple store who shoots video on a 7D too.
He suggested a couple of devices which don't cost all too much.
I'm gonna look into it, and post my findings in this thread.
regards,
What devices did the Apple Store clerk suggest?
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Hi Everyone,
Zakiman, You PM'ed me and I replied.
For all others, I'll post the information and some links:
The clerk in the Apple store suggested Edirol or M-audio equipment.
The store carries these products, and the clerk had some-hands on experience with the devices coupled to the 7D.
Links on Amazon: (price isn't too bad)
http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-MicroTrack-P...087&sr=8-28 (http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-MicroTrack-Professional-2-Channel-Recorder/dp/B000ANQXKS/ref=sr_1_28?ie=UTF8&s=musical-instruments&qid=1260714087&sr=8-28)
http://www.amazon.com/Edirol-R-09-WAVE-Rec...4121&sr=1-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Edirol-R-09-WAVE-Recorder-Black/dp/B000FPQFKO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=musical-instruments&qid=1260714121&sr=1-2)
http://www.amazon.com/Edirol-R-09HR-High-R...4154&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Edirol-R-09HR-High-Resolution-WAVE-Recorder/dp/B0016MLUKU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=musical-instruments&qid=1260714154&sr=1-1)
I'm not sure what I'll buy, myself.
Hope this info helps others too.
PS: interesting video on the subject, and gear suggestions:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/17/canon-e...maker-wannabes/ (http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/17/canon-eos-7d-impressions-for-filmmaker-wannabes/)
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None of these 'couple' to the 5D2. You record the audio separately and ad in post to the video.
I have the Edirol-R-09 and it is excellent. You can record uncompressed or as MP3. The internal MICs are OK but I recommend an external MIC to avoid handling noises being recorded.
Hi Everyone,
Zakiman, You PM'ed me and I replied.
For all others, I'll post the information and some links:
The clerk in the Apple store suggested Edirol or M-audio equipment.
The store carries these products, and the clerk had some-hands on experience with the devices coupled to the 7D.
Links on Amazon: (price isn't too bad)
http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-MicroTrack-P...087&sr=8-28 (http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-MicroTrack-Professional-2-Channel-Recorder/dp/B000ANQXKS/ref=sr_1_28?ie=UTF8&s=musical-instruments&qid=1260714087&sr=8-28)
http://www.amazon.com/Edirol-R-09-WAVE-Rec...4121&sr=1-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Edirol-R-09-WAVE-Recorder-Black/dp/B000FPQFKO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=musical-instruments&qid=1260714121&sr=1-2)
http://www.amazon.com/Edirol-R-09HR-High-R...4154&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Edirol-R-09HR-High-Resolution-WAVE-Recorder/dp/B0016MLUKU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=musical-instruments&qid=1260714154&sr=1-1)
I'm not sure what I'll buy, myself.
Hope this info helps others too.
PS: interesting video on the subject, and gear suggestions:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/17/canon-e...maker-wannabes/ (http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/17/canon-eos-7d-impressions-for-filmmaker-wannabes/)
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http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/all-things-audio/ (http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/all-things-audio/)
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eos-7d-hd/ (http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eos-7d-hd/)