Luminous Landscape Forum
The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: dalethorn on August 17, 2009, 04:43:11 pm
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Panasonic ZS3.
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I can't see the point of this photograph.
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I can't see the point of this photograph.
Well, I suppose it's a pretty enough building even though it's obviously nowhere near as old as its design might suggest. The sky is very blotchy: I don't know whether it's noise or just jpeg artifact.
Perhaps Dale could explain what it's for.
Jeremy
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Well, I suppose it's a pretty enough building even though it's obviously nowhere near as old as its design might suggest. The sky is very blotchy: I don't know whether it's noise or just jpeg artifact.
Perhaps Dale could explain what it's for.
Jeremy
Google glamorgan castle - it's all there. Interesting for several reasons. Finding a castle in the middle of a small town in Ohio is a unique experience.
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Google glamorgan castle - it's all there. Interesting for several reasons. Finding a castle in the middle of a small town in Ohio is a unique experience.
Follies are often interesting. I was right about it being a fairly new building in the style of one much older, I see.
You still haven't explained why you took the shot, though. Whilst coming across a castle in a small town in Ohio may be an unusual experience (beware of claiming that anything is unique!), I don't get any of that feeling from your image. There's no context: it might as well have been in the middle of nowhere.
Jeremy
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Follies are often interesting. I was right about it being a fairly new building in the style of one much older, I see.
You still haven't explained why you took the shot, though. Whilst coming across a castle in a small town in Ohio may be an unusual experience (beware of claiming that anything is unique!), I don't get any of that feeling from your image. There's no context: it might as well have been in the middle of nowhere.
Jeremy
I fail to understand why building a stunningly beautiful home, filled with beautiful objects d'art would be a folly. Perhaps you're one of those people who don't enjoy art or beautiful, unusual architecture.
The meaning here is just as simple as art or life itself, or for some people, just as mysterious.
And indeed, it could have been in the middle of nowhere, but now that you google'd it, you know more than that.
BTW, this is a place you can walk through, touch, and photograph at will.
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I fail to understand why building a stunningly beautiful home, filled with beautiful objects d'art would be a folly. Perhaps you're one of those people who don't enjoy art or beautiful, unusual architecture.
The meaning here is just as simple as art or life itself, or for some people, just as mysterious.
And indeed, it could have been in the middle of nowhere, but now that you google'd it, you know more than that.
BTW, this is a place you can walk through, touch, and photograph at will.
Ummm...
"Folly" is a technical term in architecture, not an informal pejorative. A folly is a non-functional structure that superficially mimics a historic form for purely æsthetic reasons. For example, a faux-lighthouse, or a faux-castle keep. These were quite popular among the English aristocracy circa 1700 - 1850 or so.
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Ummm...
"Folly" is a technical term in architecture, not an informal pejorative. A folly is a non-functional structure that superficially mimics a historic form for purely æsthetic reasons. For example, a faux-lighthouse, or a faux-castle keep. These were quite popular among the English aristocracy circa 1700 - 1850 or so.
I've toured several medieval castles in Germany, and while Glamorgan isn't old, funky, mossy, etc. like the German buildings, it has the quality and heavy-duty build, not to mention style that the faux buildings lack. There's a faux castle on PCH North of downtown Malibu, but it's not in the same league as Glamorgan.
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For me it isn't about what it is 'about' ... I understand the sensibility that wants 'photography' to be distinct from 'painting' ... but I don't share it.
For me, images captured with a camera that are simply beautiful can stand on their own as art without a connection to time and/or human events.
Usually, lighting is key to that. Beautiful light helps make beautiful photographic images.
That's my take here ... the light isn't doing you any favors.
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Ummm...
"Folly" is a technical term in architecture, not an informal pejorative. A folly is a non-functional structure that superficially mimics a historic form for purely æsthetic reasons. For example, a faux-lighthouse, or a faux-castle keep. These were quite popular among the English aristocracy circa 1700 - 1850 or so.
Thank you! That saved me the trouble of explaining the word.
Jeremy
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For me it isn't about what it is 'about' ... I understand the sensibility that wants 'photography' to be distinct from 'painting' ... but I don't share it.
For me, images captured with a camera that are simply beautiful can stand on their own as art without a connection to time and/or human events.
Usually, lighting is key to that. Beautiful light helps make beautiful photographic images.
That's my take here ... the light isn't doing you any favors.
I didn't see this until someone sent me the link. Speaking of light, here's another view of the castle for comparison, taken several months apart from the first. The light with this image is flat, the sky plain and drab, no interesting shadows, etc. In the first, the light is terrific, or so say the hundred or so people who've seen it.
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It's a well taken photograph, but looks like something from a 'For Sale' brochure.
To make a building like this stand out you need to explore different angles, DOF, Lens options etc.
Possibly HDR, B&W, dusk or dawn etc
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It's a well taken photograph, but looks like something from a 'For Sale' brochure.
To make a building like this stand out you need to explore different angles, DOF, Lens options etc.
Possibly HDR, B&W, dusk or dawn etc
I hope you're referring to the second photo here, not the first. I thought these two made an interesting contrast.
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In the first, the light is terrific
The first two words that come to mind are 'cold' and 'harsh' ... not 'terrific'.
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The first two words that come to mind are 'cold' and 'harsh' ... not 'terrific'.
Cold and harsh got your attention. Success!
BTW: Castles do tend to be cold and harsh - we English and Welsh expect that. It wouldn't be the same warm and soft.
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I hope you're referring to the second photo here, not the first. I thought these two made an interesting contrast.
Actually refering to either of them. I do not want to sound negative, but for a building such as this it is the photographer that makes the photo interesting, not the subject.
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I hope you're referring to the second photo here, not the first.
Which is it?
Are you trying to shoot great-looking, high-quality images or are you trying to shoot snapshots for your content and memory- oriented audience?
Sometimes you seem to be saying one thing and sometimes the other.
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Which is it?
Are you trying to shoot great-looking, high-quality images or are you trying to shoot snapshots for your content and memory- oriented audience?
Sometimes you seem to be saying one thing and sometimes the other.
A great prophet once said "unless a man hates his brother he cannot follow me." And elsewhere he said "love everyone, even your enemies." People of limited understanding see a contradiction, yet there is none. Like art and beauty, which are complex and difficult for average minds to understand, so it is with what I "seem to be saying, one thing and sometimes the other."
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Cold and harsh got your attention. Success!
BTW: Castles do tend to be cold and harsh - we English and Welsh expect that. It wouldn't be the same warm and soft.
I don't agree. Shoot a castle in the warmth of an English summer evening (seizing the rare occasions on which we get a summer evening that's warm) and the glow can make it look wonderful. Think of Leeds castle, for example.
Jeremy
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A great prophet once said "unless a man hates his brother he cannot follow me." And elsewhere he said "love everyone, even your enemies." People of limited understanding see a contradiction, yet there is none. Like art and beauty, which are complex and difficult for average minds to understand, so it is with what I "seem to be saying, one thing and sometimes the other."
I can't find the first quotation, but I confess my biblical knowledge is limited.
I also have to confess that I've no idea what you're talking about.
Jeremy
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I can't find the first quotation, but I confess my biblical knowledge is limited.
I also have to confess that I've no idea what you're talking about.
Jeremy
Luke 14:26
“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."
I guess he's saying he's like Jesus because they both contradict themselves ... dunno ...
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I can't find the first quotation, but I confess my biblical knowledge is limited.
I also have to confess that I've no idea what you're talking about.
Jeremy
If you have no idea of something, it's known as ignorance. Why would you want to proclaim your ignorance on my thread? You could do that somewhere else.
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Luke 14:26
“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."
I guess he's saying he's like Jesus because they both contradict themselves ... dunno ...
You're saying that Jesus contradicted himself? Isn't that like putting yourself above God?
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If you have no idea of something, it's known as ignorance. Why would you want to proclaim your ignorance on my thread? You could do that somewhere else.
Well, there are two reasons why I might have no idea what you talking about. Only one of them relates to ignorance: the other involves lack of clarity of thought and expression. However, I shan't argue with anyone who prays God in aid of his arguments.
Jeremy, I thank you for your assistance. It's not my end of the book, you see.
Jeremy
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It's not my end of the book, you see.
I know EXACTLY where you are coming from. ;-)
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Well, there are two reasons why I might have no idea what you talking about. Only one of them relates to ignorance: the other involves lack of clarity of thought and expression. However, I shan't argue with anyone who prays God in aid of his arguments.
Jeremy, I thank you for your assistance. It's not my end of the book, you see.
Jeremy
It's not about God, it's about deep philosophical thought and apparent (to you) contradictions that aren't. I don't really expect you to understand that, I just put it out there for people who are capable of grasping such ideas.
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I know EXACTLY where you are coming from. ;-)
Your little love thing with the other guy is really endearing. But I never got into the frat-boy thing, or went fishing or camping etc. with my "buddies" like you people do. I think you're missing your MTV program.
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like you people do
I get the feeling you haven't the foggiest notion who "we" are ... but that's ok.
You are starting to get dangerously close to all kinds of lines ... so I think this one ends here.
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I get the feeling you haven't the foggiest notion who "we" are ... but that's ok.
You are starting to get dangerously close to all kinds of lines ... so I think this one ends here.
You're talking dangerous? Are you going psychotic or something?
If you were anywhere near normal, realizing all the friction that occurred between you and me the last time, you would have put my username on ignore "this time". Instead, not only did you not ignore me, you started posting to my threads again, just begging and baiting and trying to start trouble. And here you are, as I said before, obsessed and won't go away, and talking of "dangerous" things.
So, are you going to click ignore and go away?