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Equipment & Techniques => Motion & Video => Topic started by: mikekobal on July 16, 2009, 09:02:20 pm

Title: First movie with Lumix GH1
Post by: mikekobal on July 16, 2009, 09:02:20 pm

http://www.mikekobal.com/blog/?p=215 (http://www.mikekobal.com/blog/?p=215)
let me know what you think
cheers,
Mike

Title: First movie with Lumix GH1
Post by: michael on July 16, 2009, 10:20:26 pm

Nicely shot and edited Mike.

I've been testing and working with the GH1 now for a few weeks and it is able to produce astonishingly good video. Operationally it's also head and shoulders more sophisticated than the 5D MKII when used for video production.

My review will be online next week.

Michael

Title: First movie with Lumix GH1
Post by: mikekobal on July 17, 2009, 06:12:05 am

thanks Michael!
yup, it is a pleasure to work with, the GH1. I am looking forward to your review, as always.
cheers,
Mike

Title: First movie with Lumix GH1
Post by: Morgan_Moore on July 18, 2009, 04:01:05 am

Mike

You might want to consider this..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_degree_rule (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_degree_rule)

Title: First movie with Lumix GH1
Post by: Ken Bennett on July 18, 2009, 02:48:15 pm

Michael,

Having just been told that I will be shooting video from now on, I am greatly looking forward to your GH1 review. I would much prefer a combocam to even a high-end consumer videocamera just for the larger sensor -- and the specs on the GH1 look pretty good.

--Ken

Title: First movie with Lumix GH1
Post by: mikekobal on July 19, 2009, 05:48:52 am

thanks for the link Morgan,  just checked out your video, you might want to consider a tripod!

Title: First movie with Lumix GH1
Post by: Morgan_Moore on July 20, 2009, 05:21:17 am

Quote from: mikekobal

thanks for the link Morgan,  just checked out your video, you might want to consider a tripod!

I dont know if you are sniping - Ill assume not - we are all trying to learn the language of motion here

Im not sure which video you are talking about

 I do have a  (miller arrow/solo) tripod but am averse to usinging it where possible because it slows me down so much - esecially in adhereing to the 30 degree rule which will mean moving and resetting it - im actually exploring the limits of acceptable handholding

Some of my videos find that limit - some earlier do not - ie are too shaky

http://www.vimeo.com/5610993 (http://www.vimeo.com/5610993) is my latest tripod free effort  - comments on acceptable handholding most welcome - my mind is not made up at this point

I think the question 'can I handheld this shot' is critical to learning the day to day skill of videography, the answer seems to be - movement of humans - yes - static objects cutaways - no

Incedentally I think some of my shots are destabilised by 'IS bounce' at the begginging and end of the pans

Additionally in both 'films' yours and mine we both speed up the action at some point - I think this is good evidence that we are not fully conversant with shooting to edit through the dimension of time, we want time to move forward but dont have the shots without relying on speeding up the footage which I think is probably a tool from the box that should be used very sparingly rather than leant on - I am learning that the 30degee shooting is a critical tool in representing a long duration of time over a short duration of film

One of the Guy Ritchie or Tarantino gangster Films (I cant remember which) represents a move from NY to London which is both a long physical distance and an action that takes hours in three 1/2 second clips - yellow cab - plane flying - black cab - Technical and story telling perfection - GR also jumps outside of the technical perfection into jump cutting to represent sleepness nights in Layer Cake

S

Title: First movie with Lumix GH1
Post by: RobertJ on July 20, 2009, 09:12:19 pm

Sam, I like your style of handheld shooting, or as I call it, "shaky cam," even though your footage is not shaky at all.

What I don't like is the style you see on television dramas, cheesy TV movies, and even feature action films like the Bourne Identity.  I hate handheld in that sense, as well as a cutaway every 0.5 seconds.

Title: First movie with Lumix GH1
Post by: Tim Gray on July 21, 2009, 08:50:54 am

Home made SteadiCam apparatus.
http://steadycam.org/ (http://steadycam.org/)

Title: First movie with Lumix GH1
Post by: Morgan_Moore on July 21, 2009, 01:42:32 pm

Quote from: Tim Gray

Home made SteadiCam apparatus.
http://steadycam.org/ (http://steadycam.org/)

I have been plaing with both the Merlin and CMR Blackbird here is a merlin test.. http://www.vimeo.com/5395085 (http://www.vimeo.com/5395085) (hopefully a little better than the $15 effort)

Steadicam is very different from handholding - its very hard to stay still with a steadicam and it introduces all sorts of issues like needing to rebalance when tilting a shot or changing lense - and you cant pull focus which Im doing all the time with the tight framed 5d shots

The first video is shoulder mount

Anyway not trying to threadjack.. I was just trying to suggest that Mr Kobals nice video may be better without jump cutting - the edit is the toutgh bit for us stills guys

S