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Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: geronimo13 on February 18, 2009, 04:33:29 pm
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Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: cmykphoto on February 18, 2009, 04:44:59 pm
i placed the order for P65+ last October, still waiting it to come....

i have a few questions:

a. this back is first generation of P65+ or the second generation with sense plus, my dealer told me the first generation started to ship, but i'm waiting for the second generation.

b. can be used on Macbook pro 10.4.11 with C1 3.7.8.3207? since i can't find the P65+ on 3.7.8

thanks!

cmyk
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: geronimo13 on February 18, 2009, 04:47:03 pm
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Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: Joe Behar on February 18, 2009, 05:09:15 pm
Quote from: cmykphoto
i placed the order for P65+ last October, still waiting it to come....

i have a few questions:

a. this back is first generation of P65+ or the second generation with sense plus, my dealer told me the first generation started to ship, but i'm waiting for the second generation.

b. can be used on Macbook pro 10.4.11 with C1 3.7.8.3207? since i can't find the P65+ on 3.7.8

thanks!

cmyk

P65+ requires the use of version 4.6.1 software, so the answer is no, it will not run on the configuration you mention above.

The current shipments of P65+'s do not have sensor+ built in, but all buyers will get the technology when it is available.

Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: BlasR on February 18, 2009, 05:52:59 pm
Quote from: geronimo13
Hi guys!

Will be shooting on a photo expo here in Sweden this weekend for Phase One, will be able to use the p65+.

You guys want to know something or want a particular test just let me know and i'll try to arrange it this weekend.


Geronimo,

Are you going to used the money from those people the you sold your camera, and didn't send it to them?

I hate when the people are not honest, just hate it.  Been honest you get the trust, But not been one, should be hang/ smash, kick, all the bad things


Here is one the looking for you.


Hi all,

I'm really not sure where to post this as I am at my whits end with a transaction that has gone very very bad. I posted a while ago requesting a 5D or 1DSmk2 and my ad was responded by a user called geronimo13 aka Daniel K .Johansson of www.dkj.se

Not knowing anything about the person apart from his website and the posts he has made on Luminous Landscape, I initially said I wasn't interested in doing a deal. He then posted his camera up for sale and after a day or so PMd me again asking if I was interested. In the end the agreed price of 1520 uk pounds which included paypal fees and postage. I then sent the money to him via paypal and he received the money on the 3rd Feb. Since then I have not have the camera or refund. The following reasons for the not delivering were given

1. Money was in his paypal account however he didn't want to send the camera out till it cleared his account (amount had gone out of my account on the 3rd Feb)
2. His original plan of sending via DHL (he has a friend there who can give him business to business discount) did not work out as I wanted him to send it to my private address which was the same address as the one we agreed for him to send it to.
3. We agreed on sending via UPS 3 days later however a gig came up and he would not be able to send on the arranged date.
4. After so many let downs I requested a full refund which Daniel agreed to, however he then found out that he would need to pay additional exchange rate fees.

Now he is ignoring my emails, calls and private messages from luminous landscapes (even though via tracking I know he is reading them)

I originally had a paypal dispute against our transaction which Daniel talked me out of because he had another transaction coming into his account. He basically wrote on one of the resolution manager messages that he would send the camera out to me on the agreed date. So being an idiot, I trusted the guy and closed the dispute. Funny enough a few days later another board member from LL messaged me to ask if I had any problems with Daniel has he had purchased a digital back from him (it now made sense why he didn't want his account frozen).

So I'm writing this as a warning to anyone thinking of dealing with his guy to be careful and in my case I will be contacting the police with his details. If anyone has any other suggestions on how to get my money back, please let me know.

Daniel / geronimo13 if you are reading this, I welcome a response.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: geronimo13 on February 18, 2009, 05:56:38 pm
why dont ppl mind their own business....*big sigh*
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: BlasR on February 18, 2009, 06:16:32 pm
Quote from: geronimo13
why dont ppl mind their own business....*big sight*

here one more,,just be honest.


I am not sure if I might be another victim of "geronimo13" aka Daniel K .Johansson of www.dkj.se. I purchased the Phase One P25 digital back from him early this month, and after he received my PayPal payment, he complained the currency exchange rate was too bad. So he asked me to compensate half of his loss, and I agreed. After that, his shipping had been very slow, and I had tried to call him many times, but he did not even pick up my calls. Hence, I had to initiate a PayPal dispute and talked to my credit card company for protections. Today, six days after he received my payment, he sent me an email and said DHL had picked up the package. I am not sure if it's true or not. I'll keep you posted of the progress.
     
 

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   Again, I would suggest you contact PayPal and your credit card company so they could start the investigation if you believe this is a fraud. As for we who live in the US, we can also file a complaint with FBI IC3 Center (www.ic3.gov) as long as one or two parties are located within the States. It's said FBI does review each case and send it to proper agent, including international law enforcement or regulatory agency.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: Professional on February 19, 2009, 05:14:23 am
I can't see any test shots here
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: Jonathan Lee on February 19, 2009, 09:44:05 am
Quote from: BlasR
here one more,,just be honest.


I am not sure if I might be another victim of "geronimo13" aka Daniel K .Johansson of www.dkj.se. I purchased the Phase One P25 digital back from him early this month, and after he received my PayPal payment, he complained the currency exchange rate was too bad. So he asked me to compensate half of his loss, and I agreed. After that, his shipping had been very slow, and I had tried to call him many times, but he did not even pick up my calls. Hence, I had to initiate a PayPal dispute and talked to my credit card company for protections. Today, six days after he received my payment, he sent me an email and said DHL had picked up the package. I am not sure if it's true or not. I'll keep you posted of the progress.

BlasR,

I hope you get your P25.  At the very least, germonimo13 is not a nice person to deal with.  I was also interested in the P25 he listed here.  I offered him $5K (which was his asking price) and $300 for shipping.  I guess he used my offer as leverage to get you to pony up more than his asking price.   Terrible way to do business!
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: Doug Peterson on February 19, 2009, 10:03:26 am
Quote from: Jonathan Lee
BlasR,

I hope you get your P25.  At the very least, germonimo13 is not a nice person to deal with.  I was also interested in the P25 he listed here.  I offered him $5K (which was his asking price) and $300 for shipping.  I guess he used my offer as leverage to get you to pony up more than his asking price.   Terrible way to do business!

*sigh*

With so many great deals on used backs being offered by dealers of every brand that can be trusted.

Doug Peterson,  Head of Technical Services
Capture Integration, Phase One & Canon Dealer (http://www.captureintegration.com)  |  Personal Portfolio (http://www.doug-peterson.com)
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: BlasR on February 19, 2009, 10:16:52 am
Quote from: Jonathan Lee
BlasR,

I hope you get your P25.  At the very least, germonimo13 is not a nice person to deal with.  I was also interested in the P25 he listed here.  I offered him $5K (which was his asking price) and $300 for shipping.  I guess he used my offer as leverage to get you to pony up more than his asking price.   Terrible way to do business!


Jonathan.

I didn't get anything from him, I only buy used, if I cn safe alot and I see what I get,  Geronimo, took someone else money.  I just find the post here about him.

If he kept someone else money he should be exterminate,destroy, hang, put him an a tank with a white shark for the shark eat even the hair, or simple put him an a park, and we all go (me first) smash(strikes) him with a hammer.

If I get elected for world president, any person the lies, take anything from someone, throw trash on the street, don't take shower, pass gas on public,take the same photo the somone took,smoke in public & so on.  Will be hang.no question ask,

I bet world will be different, and people like him will think before they act

vote for me.

BlasR
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: christian_raae on February 19, 2009, 10:17:42 am
Hi

If he asked for 5k dollars for the back, he is doing a Really bad deal, considering what he can get for it in Sweden.

It should´t  be a big problem at all for him to get about 7k for in Sweden. Smells like a rip-off.


Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: BlasR on February 19, 2009, 10:20:44 am
Quote from: dougpetersonci
*sigh*

With so many great deals on used backs being offered by dealers of every brand that can be trusted.

Doug Peterson,  Head of Technical Services
Capture Integration, Phase One & Canon Dealer (http://www.captureintegration.com)  |  Personal Portfolio (http://www.doug-peterson.com)


Doug,

I used to have p45+ until someone was thinking the what I got was belong to her/him.

I wish I can get elected one day.  Vote for me.

BlasR
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: geronimo13 on February 19, 2009, 02:19:45 pm
Quote from: Jonathan Lee
BlasR,

I hope you get your P25.  At the very least, germonimo13 is not a nice person to deal with.  I was also interested in the P25 he listed here.  I offered him $5K (which was his asking price) and $300 for shipping.  I guess he used my offer as leverage to get you to pony up more than his asking price.   Terrible way to do business!



Correct you offered me $5 + 300 in shipping but instead i choosed to sell it to "filmcapture" as he was the first to say that he wanted it. How can you you say that i'm not a nice person to deal with you have no experience in that whatsoever.

I had problems with dhl and shipping and customs. The back has been shipped today with ups express.

Very nice that ppl make assumptions when they don't know the whole story...
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: geronimo13 on February 19, 2009, 02:20:39 pm
Quote from: christian_raae
Hi

If he asked for 5k dollars for the back, he is doing a Really bad deal, considering what he can get for it in Sweden.

It should´t  be a big problem at all for him to get about 7k for in Sweden. Smells like a rip-off.

No it wasn't possible and i needed to move the back quickly.

Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: Jonathan Lee on February 19, 2009, 06:26:12 pm
Quote from: geronimo13
Very nice that ppl make assumptions when they don't know the whole story...

Ha Ha you make me laugh.  The whole story is that you took a lot of money from people who have yet received nothing in return.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: cmykphoto on February 19, 2009, 10:24:07 pm
Quote from: Joe Behar
P65+ requires the use of version 4.6.1 software, so the answer is no, it will not run on the configuration you mention above.

The current shipments of P65+'s do not have sensor+ built in, but all buyers will get the technology when it is available.

my dealer told me today that  you have to pay for the sensor+, not only a free firmwire update you can do by yourself,  so he suggested me to wait for the second generation.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: Joe Behar on February 19, 2009, 10:42:28 pm
Quote from: cmykphoto
my dealer told me today that  you have to pay for the sensor+, not only a free firmwire update you can do by yourself,  so he suggested me to wait for the second generation.

Please get clarification from your dealer.

My understanding is that any P65+ that has already been delivered will get the upgrade to sensor+

New orders will also get it, but delivery will take a little while longer.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: geronimo13 on February 20, 2009, 01:08:25 am
Quote from: Jonathan Lee
Ha Ha you make me laugh.  The whole story is that you took a lot of money from people who have yet received nothing in return.

Then why didn't I take your money aswell then?
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: cmykphoto on February 20, 2009, 01:46:18 am
Quote from: Joe Behar
Please get clarification from your dealer.

My understanding is that any P65+ that has already been delivered will get the upgrade to sensor+

New orders will also get it, but delivery will take a little while longer.


you mean the P65+ delivered  doesn't have the sensor+ but can be update to sensor plus by myself? only a firmware update?

thanks
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: cmykphoto on February 20, 2009, 02:07:14 am
Quote from: Joe Behar
P65+ requires the use of version 4.6.1 software, so the answer is no, it will not run on the configuration you mention above.

The current shipments of P65+'s do not have sensor+ built in, but all buyers will get the technology when it is available.


since i still like 3.7.9 for my P30+, it's possible i update my macbook pro to 10.6.1 then use 3.7.9 for P30+ and C1 4.6 for my P65+?
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: Carsten W on February 20, 2009, 05:39:43 am
Quote from: geronimo13
Then why didn't I take your money aswell then?

Please stop clogging this thread with your arguments. Send people their stuff or their money back and let it be.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: Joe Behar on February 20, 2009, 08:56:44 am
Quote from: cmykphoto
since i still like 3.7.9 for my P30+, it's possible i update my macbook pro to 10.6.1 then use 3.7.9 for P30+ and C1 4.6 for my P65+?

Yes, you can run 3.7.9 and 4.6.1 on the same computer.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: christian_raae on February 25, 2009, 12:49:29 pm
Quote from: Joe Behar
Yes, you can run 3.7.9 and 4.6.1 on the same computer.


Quote from: geronimo13
Okej great. Yes leaning towards p30+ as that doesn't differ from the p21+ as much. I've tested one out and it is a great back, really love the workflow.


I bet a lot that Geronimo doesn't have the back. I've seen him in Swedish communities as well, he's not that serious of a photographer.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: geronimo13 on February 25, 2009, 02:10:41 pm
Quote from: christian_raae
I bet a lot that Geronimo doesn't have the back. I've seen him in Swedish communities as well, he's not that serious of a photographer.


True i dont have the back but i tested it out. I can send you files if you dont believe me...


www.dkj.se/temp/julia1.jpg
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: christian_raae on February 25, 2009, 02:46:40 pm
Vad är problemet här? Har du sålt ett bakstycke utan att skicka produkten!?
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: footoograaf on February 25, 2009, 02:50:29 pm
vi alla skulle vilja veta
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: geronimo13 on February 25, 2009, 03:00:00 pm
Quote from: christian_raae
Vad är problemet här? Har du sålt ett bakstycke utan att skicka produkten!?

Nej det har jag inte, strulade med frakten så det blev försenat. Bakstycket är levererat sedan ca 1v. Folk övereagerar och lägger sig i saker som inte rör dem.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: christian_raae on February 25, 2009, 03:12:48 pm
Så han har fått bakstycket? Varför skriver han inte det då? Så hade allt lugnat ner sig.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: geronimo13 on February 25, 2009, 03:37:34 pm
Quote from: christian_raae
Så han har fått bakstycket? Varför skriver han inte det då? Så hade allt lugnat ner sig.
Har bett han göra det. Och det dyker nog upp snart.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: Carsten W on February 25, 2009, 03:59:27 pm
Quote from: geronimo13
Nej det har jag inte, strulade med frakten så det blev försenat. Bakstycket är levererat sedan ca 1v. Folk övereagerar och lägger sig i saker som inte rör dem.

Didn't you also take someone's money for something which they didn't get, yet didn't refund it? People care because as much as they argue, this is a community. I think a lot of people are waiting to hear that this gets resolved.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: geronimo13 on February 25, 2009, 04:02:28 pm
Quote from: carstenw
Didn't you also take someone's money for something which they didn't get, yet didn't refund it? People care because as much as they argue, this is a community. I think a lot of people are waiting to hear that this gets resolved.
No a refund is on its way. Couldnt do a refund until the other guy got his back.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: futura on February 25, 2009, 05:15:23 pm
Quote from: geronimo13
No a refund is on its way. Couldnt do a refund until the other guy got his back.

That is good news, I'm still waiting for the refund, fingers crossed it will come through tonight.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: Joe Behar on February 25, 2009, 10:19:32 pm
Quote from: cmykphoto
you mean the P65+ delivered  doesn't have the sensor+ but can be update to sensor plus by myself? only a firmware update?

thanks



cmykphoto,

At this point I am not sure if the upgrade to sensor+ will be possible by the user or if the back will have to go back to Phase One.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: futura on February 26, 2009, 04:22:51 am
Quote from: geronimo13
No a refund is on its way. Couldnt do a refund until the other guy got his back.

One further update from Daniel, he is having problems with paypal and is unable to refund me yet. The ball is now firmly in his court now, he can choose to resolve this with paypal at his own pace, there aren't any disputes from other transactions to get in the way. At this point in time... likelihood of refund.... rocking horse manure.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: yongfei on February 26, 2009, 01:27:48 pm
So what exactly is this "Paypal problem"? Refund is as easy as a few clicks.

Also, what was the reason that he couldn't send you the camera in the first place?

>One further update from Daniel, he is having problems with paypal and is unable to refund me yet. The ball is now firmly in his court now, he can choose to resolve this with paypal at his own pace, there aren't any disputes from other transactions to get in the way. At this point in time... likelihood of refund.... rocking horse manure.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: futura on February 26, 2009, 01:53:18 pm
Quote from: yongfei
So what exactly is this "Paypal problem"? Refund is as easy as a few clicks.

Also, what was the reason that he couldn't send you the camera in the first place?

>One further update from Daniel, he is having problems with paypal and is unable to refund me yet. The ball is now firmly in his court now, he can choose to resolve this with paypal at his own pace, there aren't any disputes from other transactions to get in the way. At this point in time... likelihood of refund.... rocking horse manure.

I don't really want to go into too much detail suffice to say that that Daniel sent me a screenshot and of his paypal status and there is a button labeled 'Resolve'  and the status says 'Waiting for your response' so Paypal must be waiting for Daniel. With the camera, I would still accept delivery but due to a misunderstanding, this is no longer an option. Hopefully Daniel will update me once he was been in contact with Paypal.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: micmatthews on February 26, 2009, 02:09:28 pm
Quote from: cmykphoto
you mean the P65+ delivered  doesn't have the sensor+ but can be update to sensor plus by myself? only a firmware update?

thanks

The P65+ units that are shipping today do not have sensor+. To get sensor plus you have to send the system back to Phase One to have hardware and firmware changed. It could take about 3 weeks time to do this and Phase One does not promise a loaner during this time. I have told all of my clients to wait for the final version.

The P65+ sensor+ backs should start shipping with in the next couple of weeks from what I am told.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: Steve Hendrix on February 26, 2009, 02:24:31 pm
Quote from: micmatthews
The P65+ units that are shipping today do not have sensor+. To get sensor plus you have to send the system back to Phase One to have hardware and firmware changed. It could take about 3 weeks time to do this and Phase One does not promise a loaner during this time. I have told all of my clients to wait for the final version.

The P65+ sensor+ backs should start shipping with in the next couple of weeks from what I am told.


It has not been finalized how the Sensor Plus upgrades will be handled.

Those details should be resolved next week.



Steve Hendrix
Phase One
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: Yahor Shumski on March 17, 2009, 04:22:56 pm
I found this thread accidentally and want to share my experience working with geronimo (Daniel Johansson) this strange camera seller.

I worked with him as a photo retoucher but he cheated and owns me $600 still. He also owns around $1000 to another retoucher from retouchpro forum.
Don't trust him. I haven't knew so dishonorable person before.


Yahor Shumski
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: mtomalty on March 17, 2009, 05:09:49 pm


Will you guys keep you personal shit to yourselves.

It's a real f@#king bore to listen to you bitches slap each other.

If you got screwed then take it up with small claims court,ebay,or paypal
but don't clutter these forums with your personal issues
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: Snook on March 17, 2009, 05:15:51 pm
Quote from: mtomalty
Will you guys keep you personal shit to yourselves.

It's a real f@#king bore to listen to you bitches slap each other.

If you got screwed then take it up with small claims court,ebay,or paypal
but don't clutter these forums with your personal issues

What is even more boring reading you bitch about them bitching..
Just ignore them/us/me/him if you have a problem... I had a guy from these threads also (Richard Agudelo) rip me off also.. very frustrating...What comes around goes around.
Anyways back to the P65+
Snook
Who is buying. is what I was wondering
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: lisa_r on March 17, 2009, 05:31:53 pm
I, for one, like to know who the rip off artists are...

Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: jonstewart on March 17, 2009, 06:30:43 pm
I agree with Lisa in this case, but I wouldn't want to see it happen in every thread.

I think it was BlasR that brought up the issue. Thanks mate! It's quite possible if you have a largish turnover to write off in part or whole this sort of ripoff, but if you have small turnover and have to invest very carefully, it could have a big impact.
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: haefnerphoto on March 17, 2009, 09:19:52 pm
I've got a P65 coming Friday to shoot 4 car interiors.  I'm renting the unit from Capture Integration (Chris Lawery) and will shoot a test with both the P65 and my P45 to see how the resolution compares.  Actually, I might not be able to show these because they are new products, I'll check with my client and keep you advised.  Jim
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: mtomalty on March 17, 2009, 11:37:23 pm


Just ignore them/us/me/him if you have a problem...


Wouldn't be a problem if the thread title reflected the content.
Unfortunately, this thread is titled  'test shoot with p65+'[/quote]
Title: test shoot with p65+
Post by: ziocan on March 17, 2009, 11:53:12 pm
Quote from: shumski
I found this thread accidentally and want to share my experience working with geronimo (Daniel Johansson) this strange camera seller.

I worked with him as a photo retoucher but he cheated and owns me $600 still. He also owns around $1000 to another retoucher from retouchpro forum.
Don't trust him. I haven't knew so dishonorable person before.


Yahor Shumski
What a nice guy this Geronimo. Maybe he should change his pseudo to Bernie.