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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Adobe Lightroom Q&A => Topic started by: mcbroomf on January 23, 2009, 07:38:26 pm
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http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Lightroom_2.3 (http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Lightroom_2.3)
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This is a 2.3 RC. FYI.
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Works here on a Vista system, wimpy laptop. Major improvement in performance.
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Yes a few things ironed out.
But not the base level NR..arrrggghhh.
Adobe release new motion picture
"ears wide shut" ;-)
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For me it was a real improvement. Had several program crashes using 2.2 when doing local adjustments and then going on to edit in PS. That's all gone now.
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Yes, It's a big improvement. I have finished "developing" 250 image without a single crash.
I must admit I found 2.2 rather disappointing with it's memory leaks.
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I've had upgrading catalogue problems with 2.2 [on the Mac]. I wonder if 2.3 will help.
I wonder if software will ever be released that simply works with no bugs?
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I've had upgrading catalogue problems with 2.2 [on the Mac]. I wonder if 2.3 will help.
I wonder if software will ever be released that simply works with no bugs?
Not a chance!
Proposition 1: all non-trivial programs have bugs.
Proposition 2: it is a sufficient criterion of program triviality that it have no bugs.
Jeremy
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LR 2.2 consistently hung and crashed on three machines when using the brush (local adjustment). RC 2.3 seems to perform better and we haven't seen a hang or a crash yet (fingers still crossed).
Looks like Adobe may be close to making V2 work.
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LR 2.2 consistently hung and crashed on three machines when using the brush (local adjustment). RC 2.3 seems to perform better and we haven't seen a hang or a crash yet (fingers still crossed).
Looks like Adobe may be close to making V2 work.
I soooooooooo hope your right.
I really like lightroom but v2.2 has been THE most unstable bit of software I've used in a long time.
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I installed 2. awhile back and was thinking it was time for a new Mac. It ran so badly that I really couldn't do corrections without a huge delay for each click. 2.3 seems to have fixed that (so far). Mac G5 dual 2.7, OS 10.4, 6 gigs ram.
MUCH BETTER!
bartone
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On my old dual G5, with LR 2.2, Lightroom would crash a lot on files with local adjustments. The spinining cursor would spin for a long time then Lightroom crashed. Now, with Lightroom 2.3rc, those crashes are gone.
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I've had upgrading catalogue problems with 2.2 [on the Mac]. I wonder if 2.3 will help.
I wonder if software will ever be released that simply works with no bugs?
2.3 fixed my catalogue upgrade problems on my mac.
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So Canon corrects their print drivers so that double profiling does not happen with LR2.2 and PSCS4 on Leopard, after all the fault was placed on the printer manufacture/drivers by Adobe and Apple.
So what happens LR2.3RC is released and causes the printer drivers to again default to double profiling. Forcing ColorSync again instead of No Correction.
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG HERE?
Is this a f---ing game or what?
Are the Adobe programmers just that printer/CM challenged?
If you can't get any of this right, why not just do like ID and IL and lets us make our own choices in the printer driver. We don't need printing from PS and LR "IDIOT PROOFED" when choosing Application Manages Color.
You have really shown with the release of LR2.3RC who the real idiots are when it comes to printing with Application Manages Color.
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WinXP here, no change from 2.2 but I had no issues with 2.2 either. I just finished a 1500 pic edit from todays shoot, same speed, no problems.
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2.3 fixed my catalogue upgrade problems on my mac.
What problems did you have?
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I run Vista 64 bit with 8G of ram.... I was nervous about this S/W when I bought my machine but it IS so reliable, better than any Mac system I've had or any PC stuff, even better than windows 2000.
Anyway, version 2.2 was solid for me and therefore a dream to use, it made me more money.
I often use a Mamiya ZD back and 2.2 opened the files with a green/yellow cast, not a problem but you don't need extra items in your workflow.
bottom line Lightroom 2.3 solved this and the colours are spot on...
Thanks Adobe for listening...again
S
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LR 2.2 has been very stable and problem-free on my Vista64 system with only 4 gigs. Therefore, I think I will wait for the official release before updating.
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What problems did you have?
I had the same "cannot switch. . ." problem outlined in the other thread in this section--now, I have upgraded the relevant catalog and it works.
LR2.3 has introduced some new BS catalogue management, whereby only edited photos show up in my gallery browser after I export a photo, and this happens every time I export a photo (i.e. every day), and requires fiddling to get all the other photos back and properly sorted by star rating. I can't even imagine how they managed to get this behavior, which I cannot correct, but it is really annoying.
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LR2.3 has introduced some new BS catalogue management, whereby only edited photos show up in my gallery browser after I export a photo, and this happens every time I export a photo (i.e. every day), and requires fiddling to get all the other photos back and properly sorted by star rating. I can't even imagine how they managed to get this behavior, which I cannot correct, but it is really annoying.
Are you sure that's a result of 2.3? There were no catalog changes in 2.3. Explain a little further?
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I did not upgrade to CS4 (due to issues with other apps in the suite). Anyway, I had to backtrack to LR 2.1 because the version of RAW that installed with 2.2 broke photomerge within PS CS3. Anyone using LR2.3 with PS CS3 seeing the same issue, or is it now working?
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I did not upgrade to CS4 (due to issues with other apps in the suite). Anyway, I had to backtrack to LR 2.1 because the version of RAW that installed with 2.2 broke photomerge within PS CS3. Anyone using LR2.3 with PS CS3 seeing the same issue, or is it now working?
I'm using Lightroom 2.3rc along with Photoshop CS3 to merge panoramas without any problem. I'm using Macs (both PPC and Intel) and my cameras are supported by the latest version of ACR (4.6).
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I'm using Lightroom 2.3rc along with Photoshop CS3 to merge panoramas without any problem. I'm using Macs (both PPC and Intel) and my cameras are supported by the latest version of ACR (4.6).
Thanks. I'll try upgrading again. -Pete
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So Canon corrects their print drivers so that double profiling does not happen with LR2.2 and PSCS4 on Leopard, after all the fault was placed on the printer manufacture/drivers by Adobe and Apple.
So what happens LR2.3RC is released and causes the printer drivers to again default to double profiling. Forcing ColorSync again instead of No Correction.
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG HERE?
Is this a f---ing game or what?
Are the Adobe programmers just that printer/CM challenged?
If you can't get any of this right, why not just do like ID and IL and lets us make our own choices in the printer driver. We don't need printing from PS and LR "IDIOT PROOFED" when choosing Application Manages Color.
You have really shown with the release of LR2.3RC who the real idiots are when it comes to printing with Application Manages Color.
Thanks for the heads up on the 2.3 "upgrade". I also use a Canon iPF printer and have it currently working with LR 2.2 and the latest Canon driver (1.9 for the 6100). I was afraid that this "reversal" might happen again so I'll be sitting this one out until Adobe can get this CM issue straight.
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Thanks for the heads up on the 2.3 "upgrade". I also use a Canon iPF printer and have it currently working with LR 2.2 and the latest Canon driver (1.9 for the 6100). I was afraid that this "reversal" might happen again so I'll be sitting this one out until Adobe can get this CM issue straight.
You can install LR2.3RC along side 2.2 it does not overwrite 2.2. I would really like to know what happens with your setup?
Doyle
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You can install LR2.3RC along side 2.2 it does not overwrite 2.2. I would really like to know what happens with your setup?
Doyle
Doyle,
I installed 2.3RC and it behaves exactly like 2.2 for printing. I can select vendor matching and no correction under color matching. Using custom profiles for the iPF 6100. Running 10.5.6 on an Intel Mac. Printer driver 1.90. I'm encouraged and just hope nothing changes in the final release.
Carl
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Doyle,
I installed 2.3RC and it behaves exactly like 2.2 for printing. I can select vendor matching and no correction under color matching. Using custom profiles for the iPF 6100. Running 10.5.6 on an Intel Mac. Printer driver 1.90. I'm encouraged and just hope nothing changes in the final release.
Carl
So, are you saying the Vendor Matching and ColorSync options are not grayed out?
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So, are you saying the Vendor Matching and ColorSync options are not grayed out?
Correct. Both options are available with radio buttons active for selecting either.
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Correct. Both options are available with radio buttons active for selecting either.
Is it under "Print Setting" or "Print" or both?
With a LR set to manage color (by choosing printer profile in LR) I only have them selectable under "Print Settings". Under "Print" they are grayed but default to ColorSync and under Main/Set/Matching only No Correction shows. This is with LR2.2.
With LR2.3RC, Under "Print" they are grayed but default to ColorSync and under Main/Set/Matching only ColorSync shows.
Doyle
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Is it under "Print Setting" or "Print" or both?
With a LR set to manage color (by choosing printer profile in LR) I only have them selectable under "Print Settings". Under "Print" they are grayed but default to ColorSync and under Main/Set/Matching only No Correction shows. This is with LR2.2.
With LR2.3RC, Under "Print" they are grayed but default to ColorSync and under Main/Set/Matching only ColorSync shows.
Doyle
Yes, it is only under Print Setting that I can make these selections, so I do that, click Save (which brings up The ImagePrograf print Monitor), and then click Print One to make a print. See screen grabs. I'm so used to using the "print One" workaround from earlier versions that I didn't bother to check the "print" dialog, which as you have noted is screwed up again - only colorsync option is available. In 2.2 no correction is the default.
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Does anyone have a clue when 2.3 will be released for real?
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Does anyone have a clue when 2.3 will be released for real?
2.3 has been released for real, and get this the issue with double profiling in 2.3RC where the printer driver was being forced to ColorSync (double profiling) has been corrected in the 2.3 release. The printing behavior is now the same as 2.2 and PSCS4.
Doyle
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I installed 2.3RC and it behaves exactly like 2.2 for printing. I can select vendor matching and no correction under color matching. Using custom profiles for the iPF 6100. Running 10.5.6 on an Intel Mac. Printer driver 1.90. I'm encouraged and just hope nothing changes in the final release.
Why would you want to even go to that area? This a Canon recommendation?
On Epson, both are grayed out, but instead of Vendor Matching it shows Epson Color Controls, grayed out but you'd never select either anyway.
Never an issue printing out of LR since the beta of 1.0 (pre public beta).
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Are you sure that's a result of 2.3? There were no catalog changes in 2.3. Explain a little further?
Correct, no change in the catalog. I think he's selected "Previous Export" selected instead of "All Photographs". That would explain what he's seeing.