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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: BJNY on September 27, 2008, 02:46:05 pm
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I know about Profoto's Pro8 and Broncolor's Scoro power packs,
but was there any other new lighting equipment from Kino Flo (Kelvin Tile),
Dedolight, Briese, etc.?
Thanks in advance.
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A new version of the Elinchrom Ranger, the Quanta. About 3Kg's in total. Asysmmetrical 2 outlets. 400ws in total with very short flash duration. very cute.
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I don't know if they are showing them, but profoto has a new line of parbolic umbrellas which cost almost as much as medium format cameras.
They look good though and paras are the new beauty dish, which was the new ring flash, which was the new frensel, which was. . . .
JR
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Hensel came out with the first lithium ion battery powered packs.
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Terrific, John.
Would you post a link?
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I don't know if they are showing them, but profoto has a new line of parbolic umbrellas which cost almost as much as medium format cameras.
JR
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Considering all these braking news I decided to peacefully invest in few Profoto parbolic umbrellas...
and give Cameras/Lenses/DBs a rest for a while
Received the 6' parbolic umbrella three weeks ago which is excellent... waiting for 10' mid October... can't complain, except the price is high... Profoto Para umbrellas to my surprise actually cost more than Boncolor!
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Considering all these braking news I decided to peacefully invest in few Profoto parbolic umbrellas...
and give Cameras/Lenses/DBs a rest for a while
Received the 6' parbolic umbrella three weeks ago which is excellent... waiting for 10' mid October... can't complain, except the price is high... Profoto Para umbrellas to my surprise actually cost more than Boncolor!
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How do you like the 6'? Compared to Bron and Briese?
Thanks,
T
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info and prices here as well as Hensel's own sites
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_p...cid=7-9316-9649 (http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-9316-9649)
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Kudos / Props to Hensel for beating the big boys to the punch with Lithium-Ion.
Hopefully, Broncolor & Profoto will follow suit sooner than later.
And yes, being able to work off AC/mains when available would be great.
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What's the benefit of using these umbrellas instead of the beauty dish, ring flash etc?
Anyone?
I don't know if they are showing them, but profoto has a new line of parbolic umbrellas which cost almost as much as medium format cameras.
They look good though and paras are the new beauty dish, which was the new ring flash, which was the new frensel, which was. . . .
JR
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Without going in to many details you'll find Profoto and Bronocolor paras are pretty much the same including the price too... so I can't say
I like one or the other better, I own both....
Can't talk about Briese, from what I've seen... they look good!!! There is so much specialized lighting pieces that I like and am looking to buy... but as far as industry standard, all will do the trick...
I just happen to have faith in Broncolor and Profoto!
I loved Broncolor personally for different reasons studio etc. and with Profoto mobility etc.
However, now with Profoto you can have the best of both, Studio & Location... again you can have equivalent with Broncolor too, but it gets heavier with those versos etc. although I like the docks... and the way they're build! I wish profoto would do something similar in their fashion!
One minor thing, probably not as improtant to others is colors... Broncolor looks very attractive to begin with but after a while
just looks aged or like a fashion from the 80' similar to colors of Hy6... this is why I wish SINAR, ROLLEI and LEAF would change it to black a.s.a.p
I personally prefer Black.... if I could, I would even paint my ARRI lights in black too
PS: I am looking in to using Pro ring flash with Profoto Parabolic umbrellas, so we'll see how that goes...
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What's the benefit of using these umbrellas instead of the beauty dish, ring flash etc?
Anyone?
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You get a large but direct lightsource. Kind of like the world's largest frensel that focuses.
For most instances it makes no difference between the large paras and other large umbrellas of soft light fixtures, except when you need that focused look with deeper shadows.
Given the shape (amount of degree) they also allow you to keep the light directed where you want them i.e off the background and focus more on the subject.
Brieze made paras all the rage for beauty and fashion and because they were so exepensive probably set the price standard, (think medium format).
There are some other makes from china that are knockoffs, though I know nothing about the quality of them.
Anyway, these are the prices from a profoto dealer in LA, which are just standard list for the profotos. It wasn't clear of the size of the fixture.
180 degree $5949.00
240 degree $8765.00
300 degree $11449.00
JR
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Who is the distributor for Briese in US (New York,L.A)?
(Couldn't find anything on their website)
Are they available for rent and where?
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You get a large but direct lightsource. Kind of like the world's largest frensel that focuses.
For most instances it makes no difference between the large paras and other large umbrellas of soft light fixtures, except when you need that focused look with deeper shadows.
Given the shape (amount of degree) they also allow you to keep the light directed where you want them i.e off the background and focus more on the subject.
Brieze made paras all the rage for beauty and fashion and because they were so exepensive probably set the price standard, (think medium format).
There are some other makes from china that are knockoffs, though I know nothing about the quality of them.
Anyway, these are the prices from a profoto dealer in LA, which are just standard list for the profotos. It wasn't clear of the size of the fixture.
180 degree $5949.00
240 degree $8765.00
300 degree $11449.00
JR
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Gidday,
I think this is the link to the Asian knockoffs.
[a href=\"http://www.falconeyes.com.hk/diyhp/12224/enus/newprod/p-AAAV+EAAVAAAOPlAAG/EXTENDABLE_SOFTBOX.html]http://www.falconeyes.com.hk/diyhp/12224/e...LE_SOFTBOX.html[/url]
Cheers
Simon
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Who is the distributor for Briese in US (New York,L.A)?
(Couldn't find anything on their website)
Are they available for rent and where?
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Pier 59 Studios in NYC.
The small Briese, like 77cm, is awesome. They have a full range of HMI. If we have a big budget for lighting I light music videos with big and small Briese. Bron gives a similar yet different look. There is something almost powdery with the quality of the Briese lights. Something to do with teh coatings.
You can fake these looks with silks, fresnels, and grid on the silk(s). It aint easy and takes lots of lights and lots of immobile rigging. My back hurts just thinking about it.
Unless these things are an integral part of your look, its best to rent when needed.
I am experimenting with making a focusing adapter to focus light with the Elinchrom Deep Throat Octa (great concept, badly executed). I figure if if I could move the head around inside the octa I could get light similar to the small Briese.
T
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Who is the distributor for Briese in US (New York,L.A)?
(Couldn't find anything on their website)
Are they available for rent and where?
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Briese Lighting USA
401 West Street
New York, NY 10014
(212) 414-9596
www.brieseusa.com
oddly though the site redirects to some weird ebay store though.....so i dunno.
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Briese Lighting USA
401 West Street
New York, NY 10014
(212) 414-9596
www.brieseusa.com
oddly though the site redirects to some weird ebay store though.....so i dunno.
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wrong wrong wrong and a big mess happened with them in the past, don't buy anything from them
correct info here:
[a href=\"http://www.briese-lichttechnik.de/usaservice.html]http://www.briese-lichttechnik.de/usaservice.html[/url]
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Who is the distributor for Briese in US (New York,L.A)?
(Couldn't find anything on their website)
Are they available for rent and where?
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look here:
[a href=\"http://www.briese-lichttechnik.de/usaservice.html]http://www.briese-lichttechnik.de/usaservice.html[/url]
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Pier 59 Studios in NYC.
The small Briese, like 77cm, is awesome. They have a full range of HMI.
T
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As I said before I am looking to invest in unique/specialized lighting pieces and I would love to buy a pair of Briese focus 77 S, I assume it's compatible with both Flash & HMI...? I haven't seen similar umbrella/product from any other company...
Any combo/configuration flash and HMI you have in mind to go in tandem with pair of focus 77 S?
I can't find the prices on net, it seems like not many stores carry them.
Briese Lighting USA
401 West Street
New York, NY 10014
(212) 414-9596
www.brieseusa.com
oddly though the site redirects to some weird ebay store though.....so i dunno.
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Brady, www.brieseusa.com will lead you to some guy selling semi precious stones.... so you are right it's not Briese USA for sure!
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look here:
http://www.briese-lichttechnik.de/usaservice.html (http://www.briese-lichttechnik.de/usaservice.html)
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Danielle Inc.
Carmen Fiumefreddo
1275 Bloomfields Avenue
Building 8, Unit 68
Fairfield, NJ 07004
USA
Tel.: 001-973-244 96 62
Fax: 001-973-244 98 17
carmenf@danielleinc.us
I will give them a call tomorow and we'll see what happens...
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Who is the distributor for Briese in US (New York,L.A)?
(Couldn't find anything on their website)
Are they available for rent and where?
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I know this doesn't help you much since it's in UK, perhaps you can call and find out a bit more...
Anyway I'll give them a call tomorrow to see what's going on with US Distributors...
CONTACT:
Sales and Rental
T +44(0)20 8960 1121
F +44(0)20 7117 1930
M +44(0)7966 430985
solalights@mac.com
[a href=\"http://www.solalights.com]http://www.solalights.com[/url]
Solalights Limited
Studio 1
3 Latimer Place
London. W10 6QT
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As I said before I am looking to invest in unique/specialized lighting pieces and I would love to buy a pair of Briese focus 77 S, I assume it's compatible with both Flash & HMI...? I haven't seen similar umbrella/product from any other company...
Any combo/configuration flash and HMI you have in mind to go in tandem with pair of focus 77 S?
I can't find the prices on net, it seems like not many stores carry them.
Brady, www.brieseusa.com will lead you to some guy selling semi precious stones.... so you are right it's not Briese USA for sure!
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I've used them with Briese's own HMI. Really nice. You can have an assistant hold one on a light stand, a battery pack on his/her waist with the balast. Doesn't attract much attention, you don't have to put down sticks. For strobe, I've heard you can have it modified for Bron or Profoto. They use a special stick light flash head with a reflector that is built into the shaft. Nice.
The big Briese is/was about $20k USD last I asked at Pier 59.
T
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Here's a link for the Chinese Para FB knock-off:
http://bbosasi.com/shop/goods/goods_view.p...category=006002 (http://bbosasi.com/shop/goods/goods_view.php?goodsno=274&category=006002)
It's available through the Konova store on ebay. I had to email them, as they don't have it listed in their ebay store. They are based in Seoul, I believe.
I went ahead and ordered the 220cm model at about $1k US delivered. There's also a 180cm model that is slightly cheaper.
Less than a week later, a huge oblong box, over 2m long, arrived.
It's a very nice light for the price, and comes complete with the rolling stand, 5kg counter weight, and an empty sandbag. It is not as adjustable as the Bron -- the head can be extended out about a meter from its set position at the outer edge of the umbrella. The umbrella has one fixed open position (as seen in the pictures) and can also be closed a bit by sliding the central tube forward.
I've only used it for a couple shoots now, and need to experiment more. The light is very nice though -- punchy, constrasty, very flattering skin.
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For strobe, I've heard you can have it modified for Bron or Profoto.
T
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Briese doesn't do these conversions anymore, at least not officially...but you can llok around for a converted one on ebay Germany. There some around and keep popping up from time to time. And rather for cheap...
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Briese doesn't do these conversions anymore, at least not officially...but you can llok around for a converted one on ebay Germany. There some around and keep popping up from time to time. And rather for cheap...
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Some electricians can and will do it, although they did get into some trouble with Briese for advertising their services.
I think any good Speedotron tech could do the conversion.
T
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Some electricians can and will do it, although they did get into some trouble with Briese for advertising their services.
I think any good Speedotron tech could do the conversion.
T
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I'm not sure....the difference is in the "Zündspannung" ( triggervoltage) of the elinchrom/ profoto modified heads compared to the original briese ones. Better not to blow a 850 Euro flashtube, rather buy a used head on ebay for 150 Euros, I guess...
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Any News of Balcar relaunch????.
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Any News of Balcar relaunch????.
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what do you mean...from their website it looks they are still making strobes...though they renamed all of their generators and streamlined their offers
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In Germany, look up http://www.snap-studios.de (http://www.snap-studios.de) . Dealers usually discount 20% off list.
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The trouble with the Briese lies in the odd working of the Flash power packs or generators, as they are commonly known in Europe. You figure it out for yourself.
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Oh, yeah, Briese bumps up his prices by about 10% over the last one every year so you may expect a 10% increase in the pdf's list prices come October 08.
I understand that Briese has dropped his White finish (S) from the Focus save the 77cm model. Only the Silver finish (H) is available now. Briese's website is in need of serious updating as it does not show the latest products like the 44cm and 125cm Focus reflectors.
It is great stuff used mainly by cinematographers although Peter Lindbergh and Stephen Wayda are fans.
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http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina...ow/DSC_1303.jpg (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2008/Around_the_show/DSC_1303.jpg)
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http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina...ow/DSC_1303.jpg (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2008/Around_the_show/DSC_1303.jpg)
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Holy S...; the reflector hanging from the ceiling looks good. Is there any info on this one? Did balcar get bought by COKIN?
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Holy S...; the reflector hanging from the ceiling looks good. Is there any info on this one? Did balcar get bought by COKIN?
Balcar & Cokin merged over a year ago.
The umbrella looks to me like the Asian knock-offs mentioned earlier.
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yes Balcar get bought by cokin(GROUPE FOKIA) .
Hanging ref is new product by them. waiting for the announcement on Balcar website
Holy S...; the reflector hanging from the ceiling looks good. Is there any info on this one? Did balcar get bought by COKIN?
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yes Balcar get bought by cokin(GROUPE FOKIA) .
Hanging ref is new product by them. waiting for the announcement on Balcar website
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Have you been to Photokina?
Did you see in real...me excited...
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Balcar & Cokin merged over a year ago.
The umbrella looks to me like the Asian knock-offs mentioned earlier.
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Missed this merger
The reflector rather looks like a Elinchrom Deep Troath to me...
Anybody who was at Kina did notice...
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Have you been to Photokina?
Did you see in real...me excited...
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I just saw this reflector , but by a korean company called Aurora
It's like a giant Deep Throat
apparently they manufacture softboxes for Hensel too
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Aurora mfg this giants for various brands. http://www.alb.co.kr/ (http://www.alb.co.kr/).
i have already requested this detail from marc heintz(Balcar rep), will post it as soon as will get it.
excited too
I just saw this reflector , but by a korean company called Aurora
It's like a giant Deep Throat
apparently they manufacture softboxes for Hensel too
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There are some other makes from china that are knockoffs, though I know nothing about the quality of them.
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Any ideas on how to spot one of the knockoffs?
(http://www.natashascafe.com/images/products/umbrella_main.jpg)
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Any ideas on how to spot one of the knockoffs?
(http://www.natashascafe.com/images/products/umbrella_main.jpg)
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Actually I believe that many companies get a number of accessories from other manufacturers (some in asia) and then relabel them.
a number of lights from profoto are relabelled pieces from an european manufacturer.
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The giant reflectors and all umbrellas from Profoto are actually made and manifactured in Sweden (and i know that because i tried to get the same factory to make me some custom umbrellas once and was turned down because of their contract with Profoto =)
As for how to spot knockoffs, it can be hard in any type of field. Just get the item from a reputable dealer that you trust instead off ebay.
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a number of lights from profoto are relabelled pieces from an european manufacturer.
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yes, the manufacturer is Bacht, who make some speciality lamps (fresnels, strips) for profoto
(and also for broncolor, elinchrom, etc.)
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Here's a link for the Chinese Para FB knock-off:
http://bbosasi.com/shop/goods/goods_view.p...category=006002 (http://bbosasi.com/shop/goods/goods_view.php?goodsno=274&category=006002)
It's available through the Konova store on ebay. I had to email them, as they don't have it listed in their ebay store. They are based in Seoul, I believe.
I went ahead and ordered the 220cm model at about $1k US delivered. There's also a 180cm model that is slightly cheaper.
Less than a week later, a huge oblong box, over 2m long, arrived.
It's a very nice light for the price, and comes complete with the rolling stand, 5kg counter weight, and an empty sandbag. It is not as adjustable as the Bron -- the head can be extended out about a meter from its set position at the outer edge of the umbrella. The umbrella has one fixed open position (as seen in the pictures) and can also be closed a bit by sliding the central tube forward.
I've only used it for a couple shoots now, and need to experiment more. The light is very nice though -- punchy, constrasty, very flattering skin.
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I have this same BOX and it is pretty good for the money.
Some complaints are the stitching on mine is already opening a little and the Bar where you connect the head does not fit very well with Profoto 7 heads nor Bowens bigger heads.
Does give a nice contrasty light.
Anybody know where to buy the Small deeper ParaBolics... I saw a tiny one in the Photokina pictures from Sinar..?
Thanks for any information, hopefully in the USA if they sell them
Snook
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I have this same BOX and it is pretty good for the money.
Some complaints are the stitching on mine is already opening a little and the Bar where you connect the head does not fit very well with Profoto 7 heads nor Bowens bigger heads.
Does give a nice contrasty light.
Anybody know where to buy the Small deeper ParaBolics... I saw a tiny one in the Photokina pictures from Sinar..?
Thanks for any information, hopefully in the USA if they sell them
Snook
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A small "Deep Throat" Octa from Elinchrom costs about 300 Euros. Don't know how much it cost in the US...
If you find a small Parabolic tell me where you got it.
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It seems Bowens have a new power pack too called Qx3 but I can't find the specifications anywhere on bowens website. Anyway, if somebody is interested here are the links. There's also new geminis and travel pack, I like the option to choose radio trigger with an optional card.
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=0CS53WQloCg (http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=0CS53WQloCg)
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=27J9sCAu_uc (http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=27J9sCAu_uc)
Arnau
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A small "Deep Throat" Octa from Elinchrom costs about 300 Euros. Don't know how much it cost in the US...
If you find a small Parabolic tell me where you got it.
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I will be in Hong Kong and Seoul in produciton soon and if time permits (time never permits) I will try to visit these companies or dealers and see what's available and post it later.
I too would like to find a series of para umbrellas expecially the tighter versions and if they aren't available from China, I guess I'll have to pony up the money for profoto.
I would buy Brieze but I don't think they sell or really understand their method of sales, vs. rent.
I know in NY there is a lot of rumors about Brieze and rumors of litagation against people buying them so I don't know the system and once again these are just rumors, nothing I know first hand, so take this with a grain of salt.
JR
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I will be in Hong Kong and Seoul in produciton soon and if time permits (time never permits) I will try to visit these companies or dealers and see what's available and post it later.
I too would like to find a series of para umbrellas expecially the tighter versions and if they aren't available from China, I guess I'll have to pony up the money for profoto.
I would buy Brieze but I don't think they sell or really understand their method of sales, vs. rent.
I know in NY there is a lot of rumors about Brieze and rumors of litagation against people buying them so I don't know the system and once again these are just rumors, nothing I know first hand, so take this with a grain of salt.
JR
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James, would be great if you could scout for us a small parabolic reflector and regarding the rumours about Briese see this link:
[a href=\"http://www.briese-lichttechnik.de/briesevsbrieseusa.html]http://www.briese-lichttechnik.de/briesevsbrieseusa.html[/url]
By the way, Briese can be rented everywhere in Europe quite easily. Even Briese Focus adapted to take Profoto. Here in Barcelona are two rental outlets at least offering this.
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Is there a real profound difference in light quality between the Deep throat Elinchrom and a small parabolic from any other manufacturers ?
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here we go again (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=24330&view=findpost&p=185782)
Is there a real profound difference in light quality between the Deep throat Elinchrom and a small parabolic from any other manufacturers ?
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Is there a real profound difference in light quality between the Deep throat Elinchrom and a small parabolic from any other manufacturers ?
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The elichrom is a softbox with the flashtube facing the object, while in a parabolic one the flashtube is facing the innerts and only reflected light will leave the parabolic.
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By the way, Briese can be rented everywhere in Europe quite easily. Even Briese Focus adapted to take Profoto. Here in Barcelona are two rental outlets at least offering this.
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Would you care to post their links/contact for these two renting companies...
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I had a conversation with a rep directly at Briese, Germany and they assured me they have nobody officially selling their equipment in North America (US/Canada)
However, with the list of items i put together they offered to deliver and help with installation/presentation or if required send their assistant on the job to make sure
there are no hick ups, which I think is pretty good although of course it comes with the
charming price!!!
They have number of different solutions/ways how to help me... but I have yet to receive the config. from them. non of them via Profoto or Broncolor powerpacks but we'll see what happens...
when I asked... what about Hensel, they said yes most probably!!!
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[Snip]when I asked... what about Hensel, they said yes most probably!!!
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That'll be the day. Hans Werner will be better off having Hensel OEM his power packs. Currently, the Briese flash-heads work with the Hensel Porty battery packs. However, the flash duration is rather long and once the plug is specified for the Hensel, it remains a Hensel plug; you cannot switch back to the Briese plug just in case you wish to use the Yellow Cubes for greater power or shorter flash duration.
Anyhoo, check out Christian Popkes and Apple Computers for a video of the Briese Focus brollies in action: [a href=\"http://www.apple.com/uk/pro/profiles/christianpopkes/]http://www.apple.com/uk/pro/profiles/christianpopkes/[/url]
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That'll be the day. Hans Werner will be better off having Hensel OEM his power packs. Currently, the Briese flash-heads work with the Hensel Porty battery packs. However, the flash duration is rather long and once the plug is specified for the Hensel, it remains a Hensel plug; you cannot switch back to the Briese plug just in case you wish to use the Yellow Cubes for greater power or shorter flash duration.
Anyhoo, check out Christian Popkes and Apple Computers for a video of the Briese Focus brollies in action: http://www.apple.com/uk/pro/profiles/christianpopkes/ (http://www.apple.com/uk/pro/profiles/christianpopkes/)
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He was already shooting tethered with aperture 1.0 in 2006 with a Hasselblad H2D-39!!!
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Pier 59 Studios in NYC.
You can fake these looks with silks, fresnels, and grid on the silk(s). It aint easy and takes lots of lights and lots of immobile rigging. My back hurts just thinking about it.
Unless these things are an integral part of your look, its best to rent when needed.
I am experimenting with making a focusing adapter to focus light with the Elinchrom Deep Throat Octa (great concept, badly executed). I figure if if I could move the head around inside the octa I could get light similar to the small Briese.
T
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Can you elaborate how to fake Briese look using fresnels and silk+ grid?
I have no shortage of large and powerful fresnel hot lights (Arri Studio 2KW and 1kW) and gaffer's grips and mounts.
Are you talking about grid cloth like the Chimera one or McGrid?
[a href=\"http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/218753-REG/Chimera_5205_48x48_Reflector_Fabric_.html#accessories]http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/2187...tml#accessories[/url]
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/3344..._.html#features (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/33443-REG/Matthews_B119022_McGrid_40x40_.html#features)
I am trying to do experiment with my old Elinchrom 14" fresnel spot with a 7'x6' light diffusion panel.
I also have the Deep Throat. I guess you can move a head in and out by mounting it on a Hollywood arm and the Deep Throat speedring mounted on a disabled head. Thats very crude focusing! You would need a small head with a small flashtube...the closer the flashtube to a point source , the more effective the focusing. (something like the Profoto Sticklight would be close ).
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Anyhoo, check out Christian Popkes and Apple Computers for a video of the Briese Focus brollies in action: http://www.apple.com/uk/pro/profiles/christianpopkes/ (http://www.apple.com/uk/pro/profiles/christianpopkes/)
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from the popkes video.." Aperture..it provides you wid everyding you veed to take a goud pickture"
Really? wow, that is saying a lot!
the briese products do look good!
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Would you care to post their links/contact for these two renting companies...
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[a href=\"http://www.entijuanabarcelona.com/entijuana-rental.html#briese]http://www.entijuanabarcelona.com/entijuan...tal.html#briese[/url]
http://www.spot-lightservice.com/ (http://www.spot-lightservice.com/)
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In California, Briese hotlights only, check out http://www.monsterlighting.com (http://www.monsterlighting.com) .
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Briese Lichttechnik
In Poland:
GVP Sp. z o.o.
Postepu 3a
02-676 Warsaw
+48 22 4273535
+48 660566495
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speaking about briese:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Genuine-Briese-220H-Foc...id=p3286.c0.m14 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Genuine-Briese-220H-Focus-Reflector-for-Blitz-HMI_W0QQitemZ170267655769QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item170267655769&_trkparms=72%3A1280%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14)
i dont know the guy selling this, but maybe worth the try....
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B&H are listing the Profoto range of new Parabolic Umbrellas @ http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller...0&Go=submit (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?ci=0&shs=profoto++Giant+Parabolic+Umbrella&sb=ps&pn=1&sq=desc&InitialSearch=yes&O=jsp%2Fproduct.jsp&A=search&Q=*&bhs=t&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=submit)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c213/poata/IMG_49093.jpg)
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Okay so how much difference is there between the older style and newer style besides the word parbolic and $6000?
Old
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/2641..._Reflector.html (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/264196-REG/Profoto_505_409_8_Umbrella_Style_Reflector.html)
New
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/5849...c_Umbrella.html (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/584954-REG/Profoto_505_455_505_455_Giant_Parabolic_Umbrella.html)
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Okay so how much difference is there between the older style and newer style besides the word parbolic and $6000?
Old
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/2641..._Reflector.html (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/264196-REG/Profoto_505_409_8_Umbrella_Style_Reflector.html)
New
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/5849...c_Umbrella.html (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/584954-REG/Profoto_505_455_505_455_Giant_Parabolic_Umbrella.html)
the old one is shaped more like a cheap beach umbrella, it hasnt got the parabolic shape. the new one does, so reflects the light in a far more efficient way depending on where the head goes.
not sure why it is $6000 higher in price though. crap really.
paul
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I've got the older 7ft version and it sure looks close to parabolic when set up and it has the same focusing post for the lights. Honestly I don't use it a lot - it takes up a ton of real estate in the studio, and I like shadows. I do have a home made aluminum parabolic dish that's about 3 feet in diameter that I use a lot.
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Hi Friends,
Does anyone have a price list for broncolor? I am interested in model scoro a4s. How long is waiting for equipment?
Best regards,
Design Freak
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Hi Friends,
Does anyone have a price list for broncolor? I am interested in model scoro a4s. How long is waiting for equipment?
Best regards,
Design Freak
Hi
I live 15 mins away from Broncolor headquarter in Switzerland.
I asked them 2 days ago about the availability of the new stuff.
They told me it could take 2-3 month till they ramped up the production.
They delivered many new scoros. But that was mainly for the pro shops and starphotographers like Klinko etc.
The new scoros are killer. I tested them in the showroom. It's the best lightpack I've ever seen. Maybe the new profoto stuff will also be in that league.
Prices are in the 8000 swiss francs range. That's around 6500 dollars.
Hope I could help.
Tim
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Hi
I live 15 mins away from Broncolor headquarter in Switzerland.
I asked them 2 days ago about the availability of the new stuff.
They told me it could take 2-3 month till they ramped up the production.
They delivered many new scoros. But that was mainly for the pro shops and starphotographers like Klinko etc.
The new scoros are killer. I tested them in the showroom. It's the best lightpack I've ever seen. Maybe the new profoto stuff will also be in that league.
Prices are in the 8000 swiss francs range. That's around 6500 dollars.
Hope I could help.
Tim
yeah, the price of the new scorio packs (they are a lot cheaper than the pro-8 in new zealand) and the amount of grafits and heads on the market, ive just made the move to broncolor. so far im really impressed. i also changed systems because there is no rental profoto in new zealand, but lots of bron.
anyone looking for profoto gear? ive got some for sale.
http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....showtopic=30250 (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=30250)
paul
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I had a chance to use the Scoro A4s this past Sunday
powering a Ringflash P into a Para 170.
Full power recycle felt like one second,
compared to 3 seconds with a Grafit A4
I like the light out of their new beauty dish reflector (white interior), too.
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hi Billy,
I had this chance too, 3 weeks ago, using it a 1/8000 to freeze some movements. Pretty impressive.
Best regards,
Thierry
I had a chance to use the Scoro A4s this past Sunday
powering a Ringflash P into a Para 170.
Full power recycle felt like one second,
compared to 3 seconds with a Grafit A4
I like the light out of their new beauty dish reflector (white interior), too.
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New PocketWizard & Profoto to be announced next week:
http://robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page....cid=7-9884-9899 (http://robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-9884-9899)
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yeah, the price of the new scorio packs (they are a lot cheaper than the pro-8 in new zealand) and the amount of grafits and heads on the market, ive just made the move to broncolor. so far im really impressed. i also changed systems because there is no rental profoto in new zealand, but lots of bron.
anyone looking for profoto gear? ive got some for sale.
http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....showtopic=30250 (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=30250)
paul
I don't think you'll regret it. I like both Profoto and Broncolor.
Since I shoot studio, Broncolor was an obvious choice.
I have had zero problems over 15 years. The Grafits are great, the new Scoro ?? is that much better.
As soon as the economy turns around I'll have at least one to become the primary pack.
The only thing Broncolor should do is improve their fix on the Lightbars to the same as Profoto or Hensel.
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hi Billy,
I had this chance too, 3 weeks ago, using it a 1/8000 to freeze some movements. Pretty impressive.
Best regards,
Thierry
is there any info or graph that shows what power is at what duration? my grafits need to be very low power to make the most of the quick duration. it wont be much use if the scorios if they have 8000th sec if they are only 100ws! you would need 6 packs to light anything.
this link has a graph for the new pro-8 packs, it would be nice to see the equivelent one for the scorios. * note, profoto uses a different criteria to measure duration than bron, but they are claiming the same fastest duration now for both brands.
http://blog.profoto-usa.com/ (http://blog.profoto-usa.com/)
paul
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New PocketWizard & Profoto to be announced next week:
http://robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page....cid=7-9884-9899 (http://robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-9884-9899)
Lithium-polymer-battery-powered power packs? Smaller Pocketwizards that lie flat? I am just guessing.
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maybe new compacts?
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Here's the teaser from PocketWizard's site:
[attachment=11523:PWtease.jpg]
Interesting there's a hotshoe on the unit.
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smaller transmitters!Woohoo!
with hotshoes!
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Nice!
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http://www.pocketwizard.com/products/trans...eiver/36/TT1-C/ (http://www.pocketwizard.com/products/transmitter_receiver/36/TT1-C/)
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http://www.profoto.com/D1/index.php?lang=en (http://www.profoto.com/D1/index.php?lang=en)
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http://www.pocketwizard.com/products/trans...eiver/36/TT1-C/ (http://www.pocketwizard.com/products/transmitter_receiver/36/TT1-C/)
Anyone hear a price?
r
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PocketWizards reviewed by Strobist http://strobist.blogspot.com/2009/02/pocke...nitt1-full.html (http://strobist.blogspot.com/2009/02/pocketwizard-flextt5-and-minitt1-full.html)
$199 & $219
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=831L0RvFd2Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=831L0RvFd2Y)
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the d1 look nice though i they seem to have lost the one big advantage of profoto heads and compacts, the exposed bulb/pyrex dome. this makes them so unbelievable versatile. i don't see how one could zoom the d1's effectively
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Comprehensive review of new PocketWizards at http://robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-9884-9903 (http://robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-9884-9903)