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Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: Ian Lyons on September 19, 2008, 05:38:50 pm
A release candidate for Lightroom 2.1 is now available from Adobe Labs http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Lightroom_2.1 (http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Lightroom_2.1)
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: Josh-H on September 19, 2008, 05:48:45 pm
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A release candidate for Lightroom 2.1 is now available from Adobe Labs http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Lightroom_2.1 (http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Lightroom_2.1)
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Glad to see a few annoying bugs fixed in this release candidate.
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: rdonson on September 19, 2008, 06:41:30 pm
Thanks, Ian.  That's good news.  I see a lot of the bugs I've experienced are being addressed.  Now I'll also be waiting on the performance improvements for the localized corrections (2.2?).  

I'm going to wait for 2.1 to be fully baked and formally released as an update before installing though.
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: dchew on September 19, 2008, 08:06:08 pm
Although I posted this on the Adobe forum, I'll repeat it here:

So far I've tried the following things that I've had problems with before.  Each one seems fixed:

1. Hanging on auto white balance.
2. "Three dot indicator." Much faster.
3. "Two-step undo problem." I always wondered if this was pilot error! Does not seem to happen any more.
4. Although I have no way to quantify this, it immediately seems much faster...

Dave Chew
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: rdonson on September 19, 2008, 08:54:55 pm
That's great news, Dave. Any new or nagging problems?
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: kaelaria on September 20, 2008, 12:38:20 am
Awesome!  I'm trying it right now - many of the issues fixed are things I ran into...no show stoppers but this should make a great improvement!
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: DarkPenguin on September 20, 2008, 11:36:47 am
Does it hose my database in any way?  In other words if I run this will I lose anything once the real 2.1 comes out?
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: madmanchan on September 20, 2008, 05:39:39 pm
No, it doesn't.

But backup your database anyways.
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: vandevanterSH on September 20, 2008, 06:58:41 pm
I am seeing a big improvement with 2.1....no more spinning pizza wheels..

Steve
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: francois on September 20, 2008, 07:31:35 pm
A lot less spinning wheels and switching between modules is much faster. I also find the local brush much more responsive (on a MacBook Pro). No crash so far.
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: picnic on September 20, 2008, 07:42:14 pm
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A lot less spinning wheels and switching between modules is much faster. I also find the local brush much more responsive (on a MacBook Pro). No crash so far.
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Has anyone tried the 'open in PSCS3' without using the workaround of using open with photoshop.exe as alternative editor.  This was bug for many with PCs.

Diane
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: DaHen on September 20, 2008, 08:39:00 pm
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I'm going to wait for 2.1 to be fully baked and formally released as an update before installing though.
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Same here. I'll wait as well.

 
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: kaelaria on September 20, 2008, 09:00:17 pm
Just got through two shoots worth of work on it - much faster, no issues whatsoever.

The edit in CS3 was never an issue for me, still works fine.
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: francois on September 20, 2008, 09:59:41 pm
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Has anyone tried the 'open in PSCS3' without using the workaround of using open with photoshop.exe as alternative editor.  This was bug for many with PCs.

Diane
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Diane,
I can't say, I'm using a Mac and I never experienced the issue.
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: Mort54 on September 20, 2008, 10:25:17 pm
As others have reported, much better performance. No more spinning beach balls on my Mac, even when processing 39 MP files from my Phase One P45+. I can even have other apps open now with no obvious slowdown. Thank you Adobe.
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: weberpoint on September 20, 2008, 10:57:47 pm
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Has anyone tried the 'open in PSCS3' without using the workaround of using open with photoshop.exe as alternative editor.  This was bug for many with PCs.

Diane
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I had that problem as well, so I just tested it.  I am happy to report that it appears to be fixed!
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: dhlewis on September 21, 2008, 08:27:13 am
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A release candidate for Lightroom 2.1 is now available from Adobe Labs http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Lightroom_2.1 (http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Lightroom_2.1)
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Windows XP, I am seeing little benefit if any so far. If anything mouse movements appear slower to respond, apparent in more intensive actions like red eye adjustment.
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: azicit on September 21, 2008, 07:58:43 pm
 All the issues I was having appear to be fixed plus the whole thing is running much faster and smoother.  YEA team!
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: picnic on September 21, 2008, 08:14:13 pm
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I had that problem as well, so I just tested it.  I am happy to report that it appears to be fixed!
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Thanks---that wasn't a huge issue for me since I did use the workaround, but that was one thing that was talked about at length on the Adobe LR forum.  I haven't gotten around to dling 2.1 but will install it in the next day or so.  I love 2.0 even with the bugs, so this will be terrific.

Diane
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: David Sutton on September 21, 2008, 10:14:27 pm
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Windows XP, I am seeing little benefit if any so far. If anything mouse movements appear slower to respond, apparent in more intensive actions like red eye adjustment.
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Just loaded LR into a new desktop and had this problem which was fixed by updating the video driver. David
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: dchew on September 22, 2008, 11:47:37 am
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That's great news, Dave. Any new or nagging problems?
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Sorry, no internet service over the weekend.  I haven't found any new problems.  It's definitely faster on my Vaio notebook (vista32 4g).

I did notice a few lagging "three-dot" indicators yesterday, but that could be my system, since my photos are on a usb2 portable drive.


Dave Chew
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: markhout on September 22, 2008, 03:07:28 pm
On my 2x1.42Ghz Mac G4 /w 2GB no noticeable speed improvement on my 25,000 image catalog. Gives me plenty of time to consider a 64 bit Mac Pro!
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: Ian Lyons on September 22, 2008, 03:20:29 pm
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On my 2x1.42Ghz Mac G4 /w 2GB no noticeable speed improvement on my 25,000 image catalog. Gives me plenty of time to consider a 64 bit Mac Pro!
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On Mac platform 64bit optimisation makes a huge difference to preview rendering, not so much on Windows.
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: markhout on September 22, 2008, 05:05:31 pm
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On Mac platform 64bit optimisation makes a huge difference to preview rendering, not so much on Windows.
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Thanks Ian - that is exactly the issue.
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: theophilus on September 23, 2008, 07:13:41 pm
keywording seems faster on winxp
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: pcox on September 24, 2008, 07:25:06 am
I've just installed this on my Mac and find significant performance improvements. Adding images to collections is now much faster (would take several seconds before, and would freeze as my mouse was dragging the stack of images onto the collection name - not when I released the mouse). Also I was previously getting random wheel spinning in the Develop module - this is now fixed as well.

Took a while, but I'm glad they seemed to take their time and get it right first time - well, second time =)

Cheers,
Peter
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: Mark D Segal on September 25, 2008, 07:25:51 pm
I'm using LR 2.0 intensively on Windows XP Professional SP2 and haven't noticed any of the issues 2.1 is supposed to address. It's really very fast and efficient as is in this environment.
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: pcox on September 26, 2008, 04:40:09 am
Mark - out of curiosity, how big is your catalog? How many photographs?

Cheers,
Peter
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: Mark D Segal on September 26, 2008, 08:14:36 am
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Mark - out of curiosity, how big is your catalog? How many photographs?

Cheers,
Peter
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Hi Peter,

We haven't conversed in a while - hope things are going well for you.

My LR catalogue is not large - only about 1100 images; I used LR-1 for web galleries, but recently adopted LR-2 as my main processing pipleline. It is all subdivided into Collections of course; the size of a Collection would be anywhere in a range of 10 to 150 or so images  and within the Collections the images are rated. So I'm never really working with a large amount of stuff actually on call. Done this way, I don't think the catalogue size is a variable affecting the program's overall performance because I adjust images one at a time and it all works seamlessly in real time. When I open the program, it automatically loads the last-used set of images, but since these sets are not large, it also loads real fast. Hope this clarifies what you're interested in.

Cheers,

Mark
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: pcox on September 26, 2008, 07:22:22 pm
Mark -
Yes, been a while - things are indeed going well for me! Hope the same is true for yourself.

I suspect the reason you're seeing no problems is the small catalog size. A large part of the performance problems in the current version is an inefficient database design, I reckon. I'm speculating, but when I first installed LR2, I had no problems with performance. It was only after my catalog grew to 40k+ images that things started to really hurt.

I ran the catalog optimizer a few times, but to no avail.

Cheers,
Peter
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: Mark D Segal on September 26, 2008, 07:55:01 pm
OK Peter, thanks.

Would creating multiple Catalogs and numerous smaller Collections solve it?

Mark
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: pcox on September 26, 2008, 07:58:02 pm
Mark -
Multiple catalogs, probably. Smaller collections, I don't think would affect it that much.

But, it's moot anyway as 2.1rc1 seems to have corrected the problem. Been plenty stable for me since I downloaded it, but if you're unsure no harm waiting for the final release.

Cheers,
Peter
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: barryfitzgerald on September 27, 2008, 06:48:08 am
Anyone know when the final release is due?
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: rdonson on October 04, 2008, 03:26:07 pm
Well,  I thought RC 2.1 was doing better but then the nasty hangs began again.

Win XP Pro SP3
Intel Core 2 Duo
4 GB RAM

Same behavior on my machine as 2.0 where Task Manager sees two instances of LR running and one is (not responding)

I let it report the error back to MS.



Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: guaichaikid on October 05, 2008, 10:29:28 am
hey...im having trouble finding the lightroom 2 serial key. Do any of you guys have a copy of a cd key?
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: madmanchan on October 05, 2008, 10:38:43 am
If you got the box, then it's on the back side of the DVD case, near the bottom.

If you bought it electronically (i.e., for download) you should have the serial number via email.

If you went either route and lost it, then contact Adobe support and they can help you.

Otherwise, you are asking for another user's valid license key to use with your copy of LR, which is not good.
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: Josh-H on October 05, 2008, 07:59:38 pm
Quote from: guaichaikid
hey...im having trouble finding the lightroom 2 serial key. Do any of you guys have a copy of a cd key?

Asking for another users valid licence key as your first post is a good way to get yourself booted.

Reach into your pocket, pull out your wallet and go and buy it like the vast majority.

If you buy it you are actually contributing to future improved versions - a very good thing.
Title: Lightroom 2.1
Post by: kaelaria on October 06, 2008, 11:58:38 am
Quote from: guaichaikid
hey...im having trouble finding the lightroom 2 serial key. Do any of you guys have a copy of a cd key?


Sure, you can have mine!  It's 12345youareadork6789